Autopsy AFL 2021 First Semi Final - Lions v Bulldogs Sat September 4th 7:20 EST (Gabba)

Who will win and by how much?

  • Lions by a goal or less

    Votes: 3 2.7%
  • Dogs by a goal or less

    Votes: 8 7.1%
  • Lions by 7 - 20

    Votes: 30 26.5%
  • Dogs by 7 - 20

    Votes: 46 40.7%
  • Lions by a lot

    Votes: 12 10.6%
  • Dogs by a lot

    Votes: 12 10.6%
  • Draw

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Total voters
    113
  • Poll closed .

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TiAn_

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Only have yourselves to blame tbh. Everyone knows the umpires choose the winners and your mob treated them like they were just there to officiate.

You got an extremely good whistle in the second 1/4 too FYI.

Whilst the focus of the angst is on the last 1/4 that was just the boil over, it was on from 1/4 time in a huge way.

'hold' bulldogs.. 'push bulldogs'.. 'hold bulldogs'.. 'block bulldogs' ... one after the next, it was comical.
I’m laughing too.
 

TiAn_

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No AFL accredited ump, could umpire under 9s. You can't just post a fans opinion and say 'we win'.

I disagree with half of them.

Mate 10-2 frees in the last, 23-11 after 1/4 time, 4-5 contentious ones down the stretch.

You won, enjoy it. But fu** off with defending the fact you didn't get a good whistle. It's laughable.
I hope this masks the pain of your team not being good enough. You probably started to really believe in them after Rd 23 too. Sad. The sun will come up tomorrow bud.
 

lioninthesand

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I hope this masks the pain of your team not being good enough. You probably started to really believe in them after Rd 23 too. Sad. The sun will come up tomorrow bud.
My team has major issues. Mental fortitude, lazy mids, down hill skiers. I am thinking and discussing this everyday. I also think the best 4 teams in the comp made prelims.

Thats how I make myself feel better, knowing we arnt good enough and probably would have lost to Port by 60 points.

And no - I was never a believer in us after round 23, we had beaten a bunch of bottom feeders and where massively banged up.

But I will not lie down on the fact the umps gave us a bath last night, why is it so tough to except you had a good whistle?

Why are dogs fans so defensive about it, its bizarre.
 

samass03

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My team has major issues. Mental fortitude, lazy mids, down hill skiers. I am thinking and discussing this everyday. I also think the best 4 teams in the comp made prelims.

Thats how I make myself feel better, knowing we arnt good enough and probably would have lost to Port by 60 points.

But I will not lie down on the fact the umps gave us a bath last night, why is it so tough to except you had a good whistle?

Why are dogs fans so defensive about it, its bizarre.
Because we disagree with you, just because you feel a certain thing doesn’t make it factual. Incredible that you don’t understand other people will have opinions…
 

TiAn_

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My team has major issues. Mental fortitude, lazy mids, down hill skiers. I am thinking and discussing this everyday. I also think the best 4 teams in the comp made prelims.

Thats how I make myself feel better, knowing we arnt good enough and probably would have lost to Port by 60 points.

And no - I was never a believer in us after round 23, we had beaten a bunch of bottom feeders and where massively banged up.

But I will not lie down on the fact the umps gave us a bath last night, why is it so tough to except you had a good whistle?

Why are dogs fans so defensive about it, its bizarre.
You’re flying through the stages of grief now. Pretty soon you’ll even accept that the umpiring was fine and the better team won. Don’t worry, you’ll get your Gabba frees back next year, except when you play us obviously.
 

Stax on the mill

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But I will not lie down on the fact the umps gave us a bath last night, why is it so tough to except you had a good whistle?

Why are dogs fans so defensive about it, its bizarre.
No need to be so perplexed. Maybe, just maybe, Bulldog fans, and plenty of neutrals don’t agree with your claims, and by extension your attempt to diminish the Bulldog’s achievement in winning against the odds.
 

lioninthesand

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You’re flying through the stages of grief now. Pretty soon you’ll even accept that the umpiring was fine and the better team won. Don’t worry, you’ll get your Gabba frees back next year, except when you play us obviously.
Cheers Dr Phil.

And what about the thousands upon thousands (I've never seen anything like it) of other nutual fans all over the country, flooding threads and comment sections agreeing with me?

What grief are they going through?

You got a ******* blessed run from the umpires, to be on the end of that in a semi final was utterly devastating, though entirely predictable.

But you won, you are the winner. Go and enjoy it.
 

Black Saab

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I’m not going to wade into the actual umpiring conspiracy nonsense, but I’ll answer this.

You and any other poster saying it’s 100% because of the umpires that the bulldogs are in a prelim is not only wrong it completely disregards the efforts of the players, coaches and staff.

Cameron touched up Wood in the first quarter, coaches switch Duryea on to him who plays a blinder and saves the game in the last minute. Macrae plays a game for the ages, Bont great (goal kicking aside), Daniel and Dale composed most of the game, and Bailey Smith kicks an amazing goal with two mins to go which makes all the difference.

They lost their leading goal kicker late in home and away season to an ACL, haven’t had a functional ruck for weeks and their best small forward went down at half time. Looks like he’ll miss next week and probably the captain and best player is out as well.

They’ve also done it while playing their home final in Tassie last week and the semi in Queensland. Now they’re off to Perth to then fly to Adelaide for the PF.

Many teams (yours included) have done it tough this year with COVID and/or injury. But to say it’s 100% due to the umpires just invalidates their efforts.

So if a few dogs fans are triggered by this idiotic narrative then these are just some of the reasons why.

Your coach was a class act tonight, I’d be proud to have him lead my team. Hopefully the lions have a better run with injury next year and we meet again in a final. Good luck.
I thought Smith's kicking wasn't great last night. When he took possession of the ball to kick that last goal I was sure he was going to spray it. Was genuinely surprised he nailed it. Was a really great goal at a crucial time from a guy who hadn't kicked so well all game.
 

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RichLeMonde

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Small minority.
When the AFL umpiring deparment reviews the game, I think there would be hardly any they would consider to be egregiously wrong from the last quarter, certainly not in a way that favoured one team (there were maybe 2-3 each way, either called or missed, that were probaby wrong).

All the calls fans like you are sooking about, like Big O's block in the ruck, would be considered correct on review by the AFL.
 

pablo668

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I didn't think there would be over 100 pages of discussion of this game. (The umpiring was crap btw, over umpired game, some sh*t decisions)
 

TiAn_

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Cheers Dr Phil.

And what about the thousands upon thousands (I've never seen anything like it) of other nutual fans all over the country, flooding threads and comment sections agreeing with me?

What grief are they going through?

You got a ******* blessed run from the umpires, to be on the end of that in a semi final was utterly devastating, though entirely predictable.

But you won, you are the winner. Go and enjoy it.
“Go” and enjoy it. What do you think I’m doing?

You’ve never seen bulk nuffies being whingeing morons over umpiring before? Well on behalf of the rest of the the internet, welcome, and I hope your first day online is going well :D
 

Superhoop

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Not really, i mean i know where you're coming from but as someone who once loved the game i wanted the best teams playing deep in the season, unfortunately we've been robbed of that.
Its not about the spectacle, its about the fragility of the 'custodians' and their need for a finals fix to ward of the depression.
LOL. Looking forward to the weekend
 

Black Saab

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My team has major issues. Mental fortitude, lazy mids, down hill skiers. I am thinking and discussing this everyday. I also think the best 4 teams in the comp made prelims.

Thats how I make myself feel better, knowing we arnt good enough and probably would have lost to Port by 60 points.

And no - I was never a believer in us after round 23, we had beaten a bunch of bottom feeders and where massively banged up.

But I will not lie down on the fact the umps gave us a bath last night, why is it so tough to except you had a good whistle?

Why are dogs fans so defensive about it, its bizarre.
No doubt a very hard loss to cop mate and I can totally understand your frustration with the result.

I think what you said about Brisbane is accurate. The Lions struggled for form since the bye. Just when it looked like they would take hold of the competition the team began to falter and never regained that consistent, dangerous form.

Your mob had its chances last night through what they alone could control. They missed shots including what turned out to be some vital out on the full misses in the last qtr.

It was an epic contest. Both teams played really well. It wasn't like watching a game full of errors and riddled with terrible mistakes. It was a high quality game. Two desperate but skilled boxers fighting with everything till the final bell.

Again, I get the bitter frustration and it will likely hurt till who knows when. I remember how mad I was when the Tigers lost the 2018 prelim and it seemed like everyone on here was dancing on our graves.
 

Sharpiesadog

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My team has major issues. Mental fortitude, lazy mids, down hill skiers. I am thinking and discussing this everyday. I also think the best 4 teams in the comp made prelims.

Thats how I make myself feel better, knowing we arnt good enough and probably would have lost to Port by 60 points.

And no - I was never a believer in us after round 23, we had beaten a bunch of bottom feeders and where massively banged up.

But I will not lie down on the fact the umps gave us a bath last night, why is it so tough to except you had a good whistle?

Why are dogs fans so defensive about it, its bizarre.
We are not defensive about it, we don’t agree that we had the better of the umpiring last night.

It is a bullsh1it narrative about us that took hold after 2016 and continues to this day.

We topped the free kick differential this season not because we got the most frees, but because we gave the least away. This has been the same for a number of years. Clearly a mix of our game style, coaching and individual discipline causes this, not some rubbish conspiracy to make us successful.

We didn’t give dumb frees away last night in the last quarter. No one threw a lions player to the ground off the ball, English didn’t run past the ball and block his opponent at a ball up for example - that was incredibly stupid at that stage of the game.

I m loving the win but getting sick of the complaints that we are favoured by the umpiring. It is an attempt to diminish that we were good enough to win in 2016 and good enough to win last night. We won because we were good enough. Not because of the umpires. We were good enough and the Lions weren’t. We took our chances and they didn’t.
 

PenfoldsFan

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LOL. Looking forward to the weekend
Are you, im not which is a blight on the way the game is run.
Should i be excited, yep, great list, playing at home with a GF bearth on the line, am i, no, how can i be.
As it sits now my team must first overcome the most looked after side in recent memory, should that happen we book a spot in the GF against what will probably be Melbourne coming off decades of Premiership drought.

AFL is an entertainment industry where the competition plays backseat to the almighty dollar.
Melbourne winning the flag will bring in a lot more money than the handful of extra members we'd realise should we win.

Ive deliberately avoided suggesting any interstate bias in this summary as truth is its unnecessary when the dollar is incentive enough for the AFL and thats something i think we can all agree on.

It will never change, Victoria has the biggest supporter base, there is little incentive to accommodate us and so we are never anything more than a few lone voices in a sea of excuse making and deflection.

A good friend of our family was a life long Dee's supporter, she passed away recently and it will be a shame that they'll finally salute and she wont be here to see it.
I could live with a Dee's win over my mob if thats what eventuates, but let it be because they play the better footy on the day, not because its good for business.
 

Deadly Dunkley

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Are you, im not which is a blight on the way the game is run.
Should i be excited, yep, great list, playing at home with a GF bearth on the line, am i, no, how can i be.
As it sits now my team must first overcome the most looked after side in recent memory, should that happen we book a spot in the GF against what will probably be Melbourne coming off decades of Premiership drought.

AFL is an entertainment industry where the competition plays backseat to the almighty dollar.
Melbourne winning the flag will bring in a lot more money than the handful of extra members we'd realise should we win.

Ive deliberately avoided suggesting any interstate bias in this summary as truth is its unnecessary when the dollar is incentive enough for the AFL and thats something i think we can all agree on.

It will never change, Victoria has the biggest supporter base, there is little incentive to accommodate us and so we are never anything more than a few lone voices in a sea of excuse making and deflection.

A good friend of our family was a life long Dee's supporter, she passed away recently and it will be a shame that they'll finally salute and she wont be here to see it.
I could live with a Dee's win over my mob if thats what eventuates, but let it be because they play the better footy on the day, not because its good for business.
I like the fact you are basically setting up to whinge about unfair external factors as soon as your team loses. I really hope the team Port field goes out there with the same mentality 😎👍
 

PenfoldsFan

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I like the fact you are basically setting up to whinge about unfair external factors as soon as your team loses. I really hope the team Port field goes out there with the same mentality 😎👍
And i like that as a Dogs supporter its never something you have to worry about.
Im also sorry that my honest opinion of our chances triggers you enough to be a campaigner but we're all different i guess.
 
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