Autopsy AFL 2022 Round 11 - Swans v Tigers Fri May 27th 7:50pm EST (SCG)

Who will win and by how much?

  • Swans by a goal or less

    Votes: 2 4.4%
  • Tigers by a goal or less

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Swans by 7 - 20

    Votes: 12 26.7%
  • Tigers by 7 - 20

    Votes: 18 40.0%
  • Swans by a lot

    Votes: 7 15.6%
  • Tigers by a lot

    Votes: 5 11.1%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    45
  • Poll closed .

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If Richmond were 7 points down, the Tigers and Swans players would have turned around and started shaking hands and wouldnt have heard anything more about it.

The ball was on the wing, the siren went, Swans started celebrating...what the feck are you paying a 50 for during post game celebrations?
Because a free was paid and the ball kicked away, that’s a 50 regardless of score. Same thing as why let a player take a kick for goal after the siren if his team is down by 60 points. Game is not over until after the last kick.
 
Lol. It’s not clear from the technicalities in the rules if it’s 50 or not, and as you say the free was dubious and Warner was stiff. In the end the right result came out in the wash albeit controversial. I think it’s one of those incidents that the rules aren’t ever going to cover off on.

But just think about it….. it’s grand final and the tigers have made a huge comeback against Carlton…. The second stick down and the baying MCG crowd are deafening. Soft free paid to Carlton with 1 second to go…..siren….crowd erupts tiger player goes ballistic in jubilation and boots the ball……

Do you really want a 50m paid in that instance deciding a grand final? It’s absolutely ridiculous tbh…and if an umpire did you would all be in here presenting a different argument.

There were numerous missed frees/ poorly paid frees throughout the game that influenced the result….. but we all just focus on that one issue that in reality was adjudicated maturely and

Game is over. Correct result. Move on and stop the salt.
The rules are very clear. The ball wasn't given back to the player who had the free kick, therefore it's a 50m penalty. Coming from a supporter of a team that has given away 30x 50m penalties this year (more than double the next worst team), I have seen the Tigers penalized for the exact same action time and time again.

If it happens in your hypothetical, then sure, pay it. Warner was incredibly stupid to kick the ball away in the manner he did. The umpire AT THE SCENE paid a 50m penalty and was then overruled by another umpire.

Yes there were plenty of missed frees / poor ones throughout, but this is about consistency. A bloke booted the ball away after a free kick had been given = 50m penalty. Happens all the time against the Tigers, but wasn't consistently applied in our benefit last night.

I'm gonna enjoy sitting back and watch Sniper Buddy get a week :)
 

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There's no point arguing. If that was paid it would've been a farcical way to end the game. You have a player kicking the ball in celebration after the siren a split second after a rubbish freekick was paid 90 metres from goal. To have an umpire put you in a scoring position at that point would be a pure blight on the game.

On one hand everyone complains about over umpiring, the next you want rubbish technical freekicks paid. Make your minds up.
The thing is they pay technical bullshit free kicks from the first minute of the game(Sam Reid’s first goal) but then suddenly at the end of the game they decide on “common sense”. when the hell did umpires make decisions based on common sense? Maybe if they umpired like that from the start the game wouldn’t be in the state it is now.
 
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Umps decided he didn’t hear the whistle and was therefore not wasting time. Done and dusted.
Ah yes, more grey areas. That's exactly what the game needs. Pity how this wasn't applied in previous weeks to Bolton and Dusty when they kicked goals after free kicks had been paid, despite not hearing the whistle...
 
An empty goal face!?

Here is a screenshot of the boundary throw in, will let you count how many Swans were in the D50.

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Your argument that he missed a chance at dribbling a goal from 90m is about as idiotic as that Carlton bloke claiming 50s are free kicks.

What? Show me where it states a 50 isn't a free kick?
 
Ah yes, more grey areas. That's exactly what the game needs. Pity how this wasn't applied in previous weeks to Bolton and Dusty when they kicked goals after free kicks had been paid, despite not hearing the whistle...
You falling for poor acting isn't a confirmation they didn't hear the whistle.
 

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Look if I was a tigers fan I'd probably be spewing over that non-50 too. In the law book, kicking the ball away like that is a 50 metre penalty.

There are so many components of common sense here to deem the decision as correct. Was a very rare circumstance and it had to be a common sense decision in the end, would've been so wrong to award that as 50. Not to mention he got smacked in the face half a second before the free against was paid.
It’s interesting that common sense is now a part of the rule book. I’m looking forward to seeing a player kick 50 metres up the ground only to see the ball bounce at right angles out of bounds and not be awarded deliberate due to “common sense.” Or a player streaming into goal after a free kick against is paid however the 70,000 crowd makes it impossible for him to hear the whistle but no 50 is paid due to “common sense.” The fact that common sense is being put forward here is laughable. However no doubt the afl will tick this off as the correct decision in the same way they would have said the 50 metre was the correct decision. The game is near on impossible to watch now due to the officiating. The free against Rioli for bumping into his opponent was what this game has now become.
 
He's referring to the fact that players can be penalized 50m (or 15m in Stynes' case) after the final siren has gone.

There's been a bunch of posters throughout this thread that seem to think otherwise and are completely wrong.
Yeh you can get 50, but you only had to listen to the umpires to realise no one had a clue. One umpire wanted 50, they other said no. I’m guessing the more “senior” umpire got his way.
 
Comedy capers at the end and great viewing watching the melts but it was absolutely the right call. If a player kicks it straight after the whistle has blown because he hasn’t had time, or he hasn’t heard the whistle, or he heard the whistle and thought it was his team that earned the free….the umpire determines he didn’t clearly understand who the free was paid to….. then no 50 applies and the free kick is paid where it occurred.

Whilst there’s no specific rule that applies to kicking the ball into the crowd in celebration after the siren has gone, it’s exactly the same principle. There’s only one reason you do this, you believe the game is over.
 
Does anyone, including the umpires, even know what prohibited contact is? If they’re paying the Rioli elbow (term used loosely) why aren’t they then reporting him for a deliberate elbow off the ball?
 
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