Autopsy AFL 2022 Round 15 - Pies v Giants Sun June 26th 3:20pm EST (MCG)

Who will win and by how much?

  • Pies by a goal or less

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Giants by a goal or less

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • Pies by 7 - 20

    Votes: 9 42.9%
  • Giants by 7 - 20

    Votes: 4 19.0%
  • Pies by a lot

    Votes: 4 19.0%
  • Giants by a lot

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .

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Corn Cobbers

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Dec 9, 2015
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Haven't really seen much of this Ginnivan story, but what I saw today was Ginnivan getting roughed up at every opportunity without much reason that I could see. Was at a pub with no sound so not sure if the commentators said anything.
Good, it'll toughen the kid up
 

nahnah

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Sep 26, 2012
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If there is a dumb meathead faux tough guy small defender in the Blake Hardwick/ Mansell/ Stocker mould you know Ginnivan is licking his lips at the frees on offer
 

Apex36

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Mar 26, 2014
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Good, it'll toughen the kid up
He’s already plenty tough. Gets targeted every single game, umpires consistently avoid giving him frees unless they’re so blatantly obvious that they can’t avoid it (even then sometimes they don’t) but never complains about his treatment and just gets on with it.
 

Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods

Sir Cripps of Carlton House
Mar 26, 2015
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Common bloody sense has to apply. He did not deliberately soccer the pill. It was at his feet and he was running at top pace and he tripped on it more than kicked it. That rule was brought in to prevent players under no pressure handballing or kicking the ball through in order to get a reset and kick in.

None of the above were applicable in Moore's situation.

(post by domus from Collingwood board)

Looking at it another way, if a player wildly kicked the ball to a boundary with nobody in the vicinity, but the player then chased down their own ball and got to it at the boundary but their momentum carried it over, would that player then get called for deliberate out of bounds? No.

(post by 76woodenspooners from Collingwood board)
He soccered it straight at the goal line from 15-20m away. If his intention was to keep the ball in play, why would you put it into a dangerous spot for the opposition? He could have kicked it on an angle to the pocket and given himself more time/space to chase it down. He was also the last one to touch it at that point, so why was he so desperate to get hands on it before it crossed the line? I reckon he knew he was about to get done for deliberate.
But let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he didn't mean to concede a point. He then got hands on it on the goal line before it crossed. At that point, his opponent had given up the chase and was outside the goal square. So he's rushed the behind without any immediate pressure.
Either way you look at it, it was a free.
 

Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods

Sir Cripps of Carlton House
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Looks we’ll be seeing a lot more play ons then because majority of players lining up for goal do that.
Don't think I've ever seen a player just stand there with the ball tucked under their arm, staring up at the clock on the screen. Then, when the ump tells him to take his kick, points up to the screen to indicate that he's allowed to just stand there longer if he wants.
All he had to do was put the ball on the ground in front of him, pull his socks up, touch his toes to stretch his hammies, have the ball in his hands lined up with this leg, have a few twirls of the footy to get the feel of the ball, a couple of little glances at the clock.
Instead, he does this...
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Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods

Sir Cripps of Carlton House
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Would love to know if Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods would feel the same way about these two instances if it was the Blues on the receiving end instead of the Magpies :rolleyes:
Well, I can say yes, which is the truth, but I doubt you'll believe me, so what's the point?
Would be annoying, but the rules are the rules.