Autopsy AFL 2024 Second Qualifying Final - Port v Cats Thurs Sept 5th 7:40pm EST/7:10pm CST (AO) - Teams up

[The Mares Leg]

Melt? Hahaha. Calm down Muscles you just save your energy for belittling other 21yos on the internet like the other tough guys.

I think we all know it’s the truth. Yours was the kind of melt reserved for those who you dream about most.

 

[Pistol Night]

I think we all know it’s the truth.

You do you buddy. I’d rather look at the positives in young players. I love Gulden for you guys and rapt to see Heeney fulfill his ability this year. If shitting all over Nick makes you feel better keep doing it. I’m not here to change any minds

 

[Stax on the mill]

I was being sarcastic - his ego can only be measured in factors of Maguire.
I’d say its about 8.8 on the Maguire scale of ‘Me-ness’.

It’s spelt McGuire. If you’re going to attempt what you call sarcasm, at least get the spelling right FFS!

 

[The Mares Leg]

You do you buddy. I’d rather look at the positives in young players. I love Gulden for you guys and rapt to see Heeney fulfill his ability this year. If shitting all over Nick makes you feel better keep doing it. I’m not here to change any minds

I just made a comment about the real goal of the year - and you pee’d your undies. This is about your man-love…not mine.

 

[Cdog71]

Yeah, I do.

Because I would rather on a week to week basis watch a game of football and come away from it and be happy with the outcome than annoyed.

Does everyone want to win the comp? Absolutely. Does everyone get to? No.

So why the f*** does anyone bother watching a game unless it is a grand final? 20,000 people are going to go to Campbelltown tonight to watch two teams fight it out for 16th in the NRL. Another 30,000 are going to watch one team who has played like a busted sphincter all year play a team with half its starting side in hospital simply because they don’t like each other, with absolutely nothing on the line.

Why? Because people like to see their team win more than they like seeing their team lose. It’s football at the end of the day and just gives them something to be a bit happy about for seven days until they do it all again.

So I’ll say it one more time, it’s no good being better than someone in finals ‘whenever you meet them’ if you only meet them when you’re the best. All that means is that you’ve been the best side in general. If the Tigers had have sprung out of the woodwork in 07-11 at our peak and knocked us off their might be some truth to it, or managed to pull off one last win for the ages when we’d marched into the finals off the back of 15 straight wins in 2022 I’d be more inclined to agree with it.

For now all I see in modern times is a team who has simply been much stronger than us

I thought in your previous post you were alluding to teams who play finals more often are more successful regardless of whether they had won a Premiership.

During our run of flags, it was Collingwood that we had to go through to get to the title.

But we stayed up. During Hawthorn’s period at the top, we hung around and we were their main rival - along with Sydney - that they still had to go through, and win.

I think I understand what you mean.

So I’ll say it one more time, it’s no good being better than someone in finals ‘whenever you meet them’ if you only meet them when you’re the best. All that means is that you’ve been the best side in general.

It is 10-2 in all finals though, back to 1921….just sayin.

 

[Fadge]

It is 10-2 in all finals though, back to 1921….just sayin.

Huh?

You've only played Geelong in 12 finals in over 100 years?

Collingwood have played 7 finals against Geelong since 2007.

Where have Richmond been?

 

[Mr Meow]

Huh?

You've only played Geelong in 12 finals in over 100 years?

Collingwood have played 7 finals against Geelong since 2007.

Where have Richmond been?

They are in hiding whenever we are great. Very occasionally they show their heads when we are good.

"Well done on being the most successful loser" is the protest. The GFC congratulate Richmond on being about the 14th best side every time we win a premiership. And about the 10th best side every time the Cats are a top 4 side.

At least Geelong are still thereabouts for the most part, when Richmond are actually having a rare period of relevance.

 

[The Unforgiven]

This is soft as... No pressure haha if I'm a Cats man I am not getting too excited about this soft kill.

Geelong wasn't good, Port was just bad? Okay, got it!

 

[Cdog71]

Huh?

You've only played Geelong in 12 finals in over 100 years?

Collingwood have played 7 finals against Geelong since 2007.

Where have Richmond been?

10 wins and 2 losses = 12

Good of you to help illustrate my point further.
Thankyou.
To finish as the first loser or the 15th in a season and then use those results to bicker about who is a more successful club doesn’t have alotve merit IMO.

100 years of football and Collingwood have five flags to show for it.

Are you the most successful club?
Huh

 

[STPer18]

"B-b-b-b-but Richmond!"

Wooden spooners, couldn't match Geelong's four flags - enough trying to ride off our coattails methinks.

 

[Fadge]

100 years of football and Collingwood have five flags to show for it.

Tell me more about this....

Which hundred year period of football do Collingwood only have 5 flags to show for it?

Are you the most successful club?
Huh

You bet we are.

#1 Most Premierships
#1 Most Grand Finals
#1 Most Finals wins
#1 Most Games won

Across the entire history of the game.

Unless there's a different metric you use?

 

[Cdog71]

Tell me more about this....

Which hundred year period of football do Collingwood only have 5 flags to show for it?


You bet we are.

#1 Most Premierships
#1 Most Grand Finals
#1 Most Finals wins
#1 Most Games won

Across the entire history of the game.

Unless there's a different metric you use?

In the last 100 years how many flags have you won?

You don’t have the most flags and I don’t think being the first of the losers more than others is a metric for success.
That was the point.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

In the last 100 years how many flags have you won?

You don’t have the most flags and I don’t think being the first of the losers more than others is a metric for success.
That was the point.

Eleven

 

[Fadge]

In the last 100 years how many flags have you won?

You don’t have the most flags and I don’t think being the first of the losers more than others is a metric for success.
That was the point.

Huh?

Starting at 1924 (100 years ago), we won flags in 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1935 and 1936.

So there's 6 in the first 13 years of your '100 year period'.

Who has more flags than Collingwood?

And what metric do you use if it's not 'who has won the most games of football'?

 

[Fadge]

Eleven

I guess it's close to 5.

Only 6 off.

Or 120%.

 

[Cdog71]

Huh?

Starting at 1924 (100 years ago), we won flags in 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1935 and 1936.

So there's 6 in the first 13 years of your '100 year period'.

Who has more flags than Collingwood?

And what metric do you use if it's not 'who has won the most games of football'?

Haven’t got time to work how I buggered that up….but this isn’t over

 

[Fadge]

Haven’t got time to work how I buggered that up….but this isn’t over

I think we all know how you 'buggered it up'...

It isn't over?

Oooh, I can't wait!

 

[PhatBoy]

I thought in your previous post you were alluding to teams who play finals more often are more successful regardless of whether they had won a Premiership.


I think I understand what you mean.


It is 10-2 in all finals though, back to 1921….just sayin.

And I’m sure at various points during that run we might have been ‘expected’ to win and you got us but also plenty of times when you were better than us generally as well.

1980 was probably even money: we were minor premiers but we split our regular season games and finished half a win in front of you and your percentage was 10 better than ours. I’d say you ‘stepped up’ in that one. You led us by 8 at the last change and beat us by four goals or so. You had a great side at the end of a bit of an empire, we were trying to push our way into the mix and weren’t good enough. Remember, you had a team stacked with finals champions: we had a side who had played a couple of finals across two campaigns.

1969 again you finished only half a game behind us but unquestionably you just demoralised us: 118 point thrashing.

1967 GF you finished two games clear of us and had already beaten us both times we played you that season.

1934 you were minor premiers albeit half a game ahead of us, we beat you earlier that season.

1933 you beat us 3 times, and finished 3 wins ahead of us.

1931 we actually finished tied for wins, we won the MP on percentage, and got you both times in the home and away season before you beat us in the first final and then we reversed the result in the grand final.


More recently in 1995 we were all just chasing Carlton anyway: we were clearly the stronger side, I don’t know off the top of my head what the ladder said but you were never going to beat us, and we flogged you.


In 2017 we finished 2nd(?) behind Adelaide and though we were only 2 points ahead of you I would say that, bland as our team was, we had every right to be nominal favourites for that game. Richmond unquestionably stepped up and that was probably the night you started to genuinely as a team believe that you could win the comp: not because it was ‘big bad Geelong’ or anything - we were clearly a bit past it by then, but because Richmond were, after a rusty first half, pretty clinical and got the job done.

In 2019 we finished above you narrowly but I would suggest in that prelim you probably deserved to be favourites as a recent flag team and the ‘best’ team of 2018. And you were the nominal best side of 2020 as well.

I don’t doubt that next time the two sides meet in a final, there will be tigers staff reminding the players that no matter where the two sides sit on the ladder, the ledger sits the way it does. They would be silly not to. But you have to apply context to every single record that has numbers involved. Not to sound patronising but tigers fans who flog themselves over just ‘owning Geelong in finals’ probably sell their recent team short: you didn’t win because you have ownership of us in finals, you won because you were a f**king great side

 

[srobbo]

This is the same Port side that were leading Geelong by 45 in Geelong. Remember 07 when they also beat Geelong at Kardinia?

Port are not the same side when it comes to finals.

 

[PerthBoy86]

Port are not the same side when it comes to finals.

Yeah I find the constant differential over so long strange. And it goes beyond Ken.

 

[The Mares Leg]

Tell me more about this....

Which hundred year period of football do Collingwood only have 5 flags to show for it?


You bet we are.

#1 Most Premierships
#1 Most Grand Finals
#1 Most Finals wins
#1 Most Games won

Across the entire history of the game.

Unless there's a different metric you use?

Most premierships ‘Across the entire history of the game.’

You’re metric , like your brain, is a cluster-****.

Good ole Collingwood arrogance - brungs them down every time.

C’maan Eddie…we know it’s you!

 

[Fadge]

Most premierships ‘Across the entire history of the game.’

You’re metric , like your brain, is a cluster-****.

Good ole Collingwood arrogance - brungs them down every time.

C’maan Eddie…we know it’s you!

You do realise the post was in response to another poster referencing the last 100 years, right?

And it's 'Your metric'.

 

[The Mares Leg]

You do realise the post was in response to another poster referencing the last 100 years, right?

And it's 'Your metric'.

But it wasn’t - you quoted Most Premierships and then quoted ‘across ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE GAME’

Look, I know you’re a bit of a ‘follower’ and not a leader on ‘BF’…….liking posts that attack other members…including me..but this is just embarrassing for you -;and it’s ALL ABOUT YOU.

You’ve made a fool of yourself trying to be the ‘Superior
poster’.

Why don’t you leave it…..people will stop laughing at you eventually.

After all, it’s nothing you didn’t dish out to that other member earlier. Now it’s your turn…..how’s it taste?

 

[Fadge]

Look, I know you’re a bit of a ‘follower’ and not a leader on ‘BF’…….liking posts that attack other members…including me..but this is just embarrassing for you -;and it’s ALL ABOUT YOU.

'Including you'?

Who are you? You've been on BigFooty for 5 minutes.

Unless...

 

[Fadge]

But it wasn’t - you quoted Most Premierships and then quoted ‘across ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE GAME’

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Context is important.