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Autopsy AFL 2025 Rd 20 - Tigers v Pies - Sun July 27th 2:10pm AEST (M.C.G.)

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RICHMOND vs COLLINGWOOD - Who will win?

  • Tigers by a goal or less

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • Tigers by 7-20

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Tigers by a lot

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Pies by a goal or less

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Pies by 7-20

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Pies by a lot

    Votes: 17 53.1%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .

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No? Do you value a performance the same against the bottom team compared to the top team? Against a shit defence compared to an elite one?
Obviously not.

And I already answered that question. You have to put in that position where your team puts you behind the ball and looks for you constantly. You also have to have your team winning the ball to get it out to you. And you have to be paying against a team that struggled to put the required pressure on that player.

That is the point. Collingwood as a team allows him to play like that, he's playing well, but it's on the back of his teams hard work, game plan and positioning that puts him in that position. So that's why I'm not giving him massive credit. And that's not saying he didn't at very well, it's saying his teammates deserve as much of the credit for his game.

And as I also said, other players are doing it. Both Reid and Merret had 20 touches at the half in the last 2 weeks.

Saying a whole lot of nothing in that post

Carry on. Lets laud players for 14 CP and 2 metres gained. Least they are contested right
 
Look, today’s game should’ve been labelled “dentist dream time.” When these two come together
Collingwood were always going to be gifted the points.
 

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Was actually a very entertaining game and considering where both teams are placed Richmond put up a good performance
The young players all showed improvement Sonsie , Ross , Hotton , Faull , Sims , Green , Trainor
Kids still have alot to learn and get cohesion but over all a good performance for a team in year 1 of a rebuild

Daicos is a GUN and easily top 5 best players and the boy can football
He is the player that should be commanding the $2.2 mil x 11 year contract
 
Think it was him, yes.


We'll agree to disagree. Would be a fascinating thing to see what type of player clubs would prioritise if they had the two there ready to be picked. My guess would be it would be a close to 60/40 split with teams with strong forward lines leaning toward Daicos and those with stronger backlines leaning towards Heeney.
100% of clubs are taking Daicos mate. Hes 22 and the best player in the comp.
 
Just read through the discussion on Nick Daicos's training run. Anyway, a genuine question for Pies fans: what the hell has happened to Darcy Moore? Seems a genuine liability the last month or so.
 
Was the least important part of my comment though. Just telling you the likely reason others try to tear down his game is because the F/S system sucks and you got him for free
Bullshit. Everyone sniffs Ashcroft and Darcy’s farts. It’s because he plays for the Pies nothing else
 
Was the least important part of my comment though. Just telling you the likely reason others try to tear down his game is because the F/S system sucks and you got him for free
We didn’t get him for free, also we were terrible that year so it’s a moot point regardless.

People hate him because they hate Collingwood, that much is obvious.
 

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We didn’t get him for free, also we were terrible that year so it’s a moot point regardless.

People hate him because they hate Collingwood, that much is obvious.
Nah its because he only takes kicks outs, doesnt take contested marks, win contested possessions, tackle, doesn't win any hit outs to advantage
 
We didn’t get him for free, also we were terrible that year so it’s a moot point regardless.

People hate him because they hate Collingwood, that much is obvious.
You got him for a lot cheaper, as all high F/S picks do. "For free" is hyperbole, but not far from the truth. You being terrible doesn't change that though. The F/S means you didn't have to spend pick 1 on him. I'm not debating that he's not a fantastic player, I'm not one that criticizes his game, I'm just saying it's not debatable that the F/S system is broken, and I imagine it's the reason for some people as to why they nitpick his game.
 
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You got him for a lot cheaper, as all high F/S picks do. "For free" is hyperbole, but not far from the truth. You being terrible doesn't change that though. The F/S means you didn't have to spend pick 1 on him. I'm not debating that he's not a fantastic player, I'm not one that criticizes his game, I'm just saying it's not debatable that the F/S system is broken, and I imagine it's the reason for some people as to why they nitpick his game.
Where's all this narrative that he was the standout #1 player at the time of the draft come from?

Because it certainly wasn't the case at the time...
 
Where's all this narrative that he was the standout #1 player at the time of the draft come from?

Because it certainly wasn't the case at the time...
Man I really need to be clearer with my hyperbole. I was actually going to type pick 1-5 but didn't for some reason. And was that not the narrative? I certainly remember talk about him going at 1 if it wasn't for F/S. It's besides the point anyway, literally all high F/S draft picks are way too easy to get under the current (and previous) system. Hopefully they continue to make it more costly and fair
 

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