Autopsy AFL 2025 Rd 9 - Suns v Dogs - Sat May 10th 7:05pm (TIO Stadium)

[BallaratBulldog]

WE ARE THE SUNS OF THE GOLD COAST SKY!

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[Brenton87]

Dogs are a great team, to almost get the win after being almost 30 down in the 4th was crazy, the Suns of old would of laid down and lost that.

 

[catstorm]

The Dogs flogged us by about 6 goals there in 2012. So despite the narrative we have lost in DarWIN. Albeit Dogs were the home side then!

That’s a bit of a stretch, you might be technically correct but you have ignored the point of what I was saying.

1 game 13 years ago when you just started and everyone flogged you everywhere hardly disproves the notion that you are close to unbeatable in Darwin since you made it an additional home ground.

 

[Yellow Feathers]

flag coast

Has a ring to it!

 

[Billy ray]

Nah. Gold Flag

 

[GC2015]

The Doggies should expose Gold Coast for the frauds they are this week. I think most people are giving them a get out of jail free card for Brisbane at the Gabba. Getting knocked off at their humid hideout will be a bigger blow.

GC are unbeatable in the NT. It is a completely different game there due to the climate.

Gee whiz. That's a pretty big turn of opinion in a matter of days. One day the Dogs should expose us as 'frauds' and then the next day we're unbeatable in the NT. Guess we'll just have to keep winning and eventually there will be some credit thrown our way.

 

[Jirik13]

Gee whiz. That's a pretty big turn of opinion in a matter of days. One day the Dogs should expose us as 'frauds' and then the next day we're unbeatable in the NT. Guess we'll just have to keep winning and eventually there will be some credit thrown our way.

Time to invite Cats to Darwin again. They must be sick of the alphabet stadium advantage

BTW, that was a high quality game from both teams. I agree with Bevo, both teams put a lot of heart in it, hard contest. Great to watch midfield battle.

 

[Mr Meow]

Gee whiz. That's a pretty big turn of opinion in a matter of days. One day the Dogs should expose us as 'frauds' and then the next day we're unbeatable in the NT. Guess we'll just have to keep winning and eventually there will be some credit thrown our way.

Yeah, GC were impressive but to be honest I overestimated the Dogs and underestimated the NT factor. Happy to admit I was wrong on both counts, despite Footscray almost pulling it off.

Keep winning, but I'm not actually saying anything controversial. This year at least I think GC are only making up the numbers. Even a win against Hawthorn next week won't change that opinion. That sweat box is like playing on Mercury for other clubs.

 

[GC2015]

Yeah, GC were impressive but to be honest I overestimated the Dogs and underestimated the NT factor. Happy to admit I was wrong on both counts, despite Footscray almost pulling it off.

Keep winning, but I'm not actually saying anything controversial. This year at least I think GC are only making up the numbers. Even a win against Hawthorn next week won't change that opinion. That sweat box is like playing on Mercury for other clubs.

Fair enough. At least you're willing to admit you were wrong instead of weirdly trying to justify it like some posters do.

I assume your 'making up the numbers' prediction is in relation to finals footy. From my perspective, I think there's a fair chance that we'll be a more battle hardened team at that point in time, if we're lucky enough to qualify for September participation this year. There's a lot of room growth/improvement in this young Suns team and I think we're only really scratching the surface in terms of what's possible. I suspect we'll see more character building wins between now and then. That's where the significant growth will come from IMO and that's exciting.

So I'm not willing to put a ceiling on this year because I really do think we'll see a different Suns team in August when compared to the team we're seeing right now.

 

[Mr Meow]

Fair enough. At least you're willing to admit you were wrong instead of weirdly trying to justify it like some posters do.

I assume your 'making up the numbers' prediction is in relation to finals footy. From my perspective, I think there's a fair chance that we'll be a more battle hardened team at that point in time, if we're lucky enough to qualify for September participation this year. There's a lot of room growth/improvement in this young Suns team and I think we're only really scratching the surface in terms of what's possible. I suspect we'll see more character building wins between now and then. That's where the significant growth will come from IMO and that's exciting.

So I'm not willing to put a ceiling on this year because I really do think we'll see a different Suns team in August when compared to the team we're seeing right now.

I have consistently been wrong about GC at TIO against finals level sides so it's a blind spot. Winning there you really have to put on the same level as beating Brisbane at the Gabba or Hawthorn/Collingwood at the G this year.

Fair or not, I think most would share my opinion of rating Suns wins at GC higher than NT. But obviously the real credentials boosters are what you do on the road.

Making finals would be a great altbeit overdue achievement. I'm using the term pretenders not to label clubs shit, but merely in terms of the 2025 premiership race. Happy to be proven wrong. 6th is where I have them finishing. Where do you have them?

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Yeah, GC were impressive but to be honest I overestimated the Dogs and underestimated the NT factor. Happy to admit I was wrong on both counts, despite Footscray almost pulling it off.

Keep winning, but I'm not actually saying anything controversial. This year at least I think GC are only making up the numbers. Even a win against Hawthorn next week won't change that opinion. That sweat box is like playing on Mercury for other clubs.

Obviously we are more used to the conditions.
But I think our game style is built around dry fast conditions.
Be interesting to see how that is translated to somewhere like the MCG / Perth Stadium / Adelaide Oval on a day game.

 

[Mr Meow]

Obviously we are more used to the conditions.
But I think our game style is built around dry fast conditions.
Be interesting to see how that is translated to somewhere like the MCG / Perth Stadium / Adelaide Oval on a day game.

It's more how other teams look there. Bulldogs made so many more handling and skill errors. While that was also true for GC, it was a smaller drop off. They exploited the Bulldogs mistakes better. Seemed to know when to pull the trigger more effectively (until the last quarter).

I agree that games at those stadiums against good opposition would be interesting. Sadly no chance to do that at the G - Melbourne aren't the test I'm talking about. But hell, even consistently beating sides like St Kilda and Carlton at Marvel would be a start. Just to start building away credentials.

 

[GC2015]

6th is where I have them finishing. Where do you have them?

It depends. If everything goes right and we keep snatching close games against other top 8 teams like we did last night then I think we can finish as high as 3rd or 4th (I see Collingwood and Brisbane as the two standouts this year). If we continue to take care of our home games and have the occasional slip up on the road then I think the 5-8 range awaits us. If it all goes wrong from here then I can see us missing the 8.

If I had to guess, I'd agree that 5th or 6th is the most likely landing spot for us given what we've seen so far this season.

Obviously we are more used to the conditions.
But I think our game style is built around dry fast conditions.
Be interesting to see how that is translated to somewhere like the MCG / Perth Stadium / Adelaide Oval on a day game.

And we saw that when we smashed the Dees at the G in round 3.

 

[Mr Meow]

It depends. If everything goes right and we keep snatching close games against other top 8 teams like we did last night then I think we can finish as high as 3rd or 4th (I see Collingwood and Brisbane as the two standouts this year). If we continue to take care of our home games and have the occasional slip up on the road then I think the 5-8 range awaits us. If it all goes wrong from here then I can see us missing the 8.

If I had to guess, I'd agree that 5th or 6th is the most likely landing spot for us given what we've seen so far this season.


And we saw that when we smashed the Dees at the G in round 3.

I agree they can finish that highly. And we agree on where we think they will finish. So I think all we're stuck on is me calling them frauds and getting my TIO tip wrong.

What I can do for you, it's a one time deal: I call them "damn hard to beat at either home ground" and I don't tip against them at TIO again. Sound good?

More compliments come with wins outside of those boundaries, even against mid ranking teams like Carlton.

 

[GC2015]

I agree they can finish that highly. And we agree on where we think they will finish. So I think all we're stuck on is me calling them frauds and getting my TIO tip wrong.

What I can do for you, it's a one time deal: I call them "damn hard to beat at either home ground" and I don't tip against them at TIO again. Sound good?

More compliments come with wins outside of those boundaries, even against mid ranking teams like Carlton.

I suppose it depends on what you consider 'frauds'. Is a team considered frauds if they finish 6th and make the second week of finals? That's essentially what we saw from Hawthorn last year. Would you have considered the Hawks frauds last year?