Autopsy AFL 2025 Round 4 - Suns v Crows Sat April 5th 1:20pm AEDT (Peoples First)

[voorhees]

great to see Dan Rioli play a great game.
Leadership and class was on display

 

[PenfoldsFan]

So let's play out this hypothetical situation and give the Crows every benefit of the doubt. 1:45 on the clock and Rankine gets paid the mark/free kick. He likely goes for the snap from the boundary about 40m out (although I have seen him slot a drop punt from that pocket of the stadium) and he takes his allotted 30s before kicking truly to put the Crows up by 5 points with approximately 1:10 on the clock. Now what? 6-6-6 in the middle of the ground and it's been a seesawing affair back and forth with both teams kicking quick response goals in the fourth quarter. Could the Crows have held on from there? Of course, but IMO the Suns were just as likely to go down the other end and kick a goal to snatch a 1 point win after seeing the back and forth nature of that fourth quarter.

The point is, even if you give Adelaide the benefit of the doubt with all the available information we do have, you CAN'T definitively say the Crows would've won. I'm not totally convinced Rankine would've even kicked the goal if I'm being honest with you, but I'm not going to attach my opinion to that because it's speculative. Just like it's speculative to suggest Rankine would've kicked the goal and the Crows would've hung on to win with approximately 1:10 left on the clock after a hypothetical Rankine goal.

What if he kicks a point?

No 6,6,6.

Crows pin it in f50, turnover, another point is scored.

No 6,6,6.

Siren goes.

With 1.35 on the clock Crows didnt have to win the game off Rankines boot, but they might not have lost it had the correct call been made.

 

[Golumless]

Was a fun game, and we just made too many mistakes throughout the game to win it.

Ah well.

 

[Kenny Dee]

"Rowell your kick"

Budderick takes off to hit up King.

"Play on"

 

[hippyhippy]

Nobody gonna mention the flop sling tackle against soligo? Gc got so many dubious frees leading to goals today...

 

[Rotayjay]

Had we not selected known spud Murphy, we would have won.

 

[Mr Meow]

Move on. No one cares.

You got so angry about it the other day that I thought the least I could do was calm you down with examples

You seem a little calmer now.

 

[ABAB]

You were unlucky with the umpires but overall Gold Coast were wasteful and the better team.

Maybe the shit umpiring gave them 6 more shot on goals given the shit umpiring clearly gifted them 3 goals.

 

[voorhees]

cracking game and both teams deserve a round of applause for how they played all game.
It lived up to the hype both teams have this season.
Great win by the suns!

 

[PeterSalt]

God no.
I just find it odd that someone I have never interacted with, or even noticed before is very interested in me.
It is not flattering, it is strange.

Bloke who constantly shit posts on a public forum/message board is surprised other people have read his posts .. ok

That's both weird and naive

 

[Toump Ass]

Bloke who constantly shit posts on a public forum/message board is surprised other people have read his posts

A little bit.
Outside of the Dees board I couldn't tell you anything about anyone. But thank you for following me, like and subscribe!

 

[Mr Meow]

So let's play out this hypothetical situation and give the Crows every benefit of the doubt. 1:45 on the clock and Rankine gets paid the mark/free kick. He likely goes for the snap from the boundary about 40m out (although I have seen him slot a drop punt from that pocket of the stadium) and he takes his allotted 30s before kicking truly to put the Crows up by 5 points with approximately 1:10 on the clock. Now what? 6-6-6 in the middle of the ground and it's been a seesawing affair back and forth with both teams kicking quick response goals in the fourth quarter. Could the Crows have held on from there? Of course, but IMO the Suns were just as likely to go down the other end and kick a goal to snatch a 1 point win after seeing the back and forth nature of that fourth quarter.

The point is, even if you give Adelaide the benefit of the doubt with all the available information we do have, you CAN'T definitively say the Crows would've won. I'm not totally convinced Rankine would've even kicked the goal if I'm being honest with you, but I'm not going to attach my opinion to that because it's speculative. Just like it's speculative to suggest Rankine would've kicked the goal and the Crows would've hung on to win with approximately 1:10 left on the clock after a hypothetical Rankine goal.

They have been full "CFL" since that goal post decision against Sydney, so a Northern club getting a dodgy decision was always likely to spark a few meltdowns.

 

[GC2015]

What if he kicks a point?

No 6,6,6.

Crows pin it in f50, turnover, another point is scored.

No 6,6,6.

Siren goes.

With 1.35 on the clock Crows didnt have to win the game off Rankines boot, but they might not have lost it had the correct call been made.

Assuming Rankine uses his full 30s allotment before kicking the behind, then we have posession of the ball with scores level and approximately 1:10 on the clock. Could the two teams then pin the ball for 70 seconds and cause a draw? Yes. Could Gold Coast go down the other end and score a point/goal to win the game? Yes. Could Adelaide cause a turnover and score a point/goal to win it? Yes.

Literally any result could have happened if the mark/free kick was paid and Rankine kicked a behind. So again, you can't definitively say that the umpire's decision (or lack thereof) with 1:45 on the clock decided the result of the game IF Rankine had gone on to kick a behind. 1:10 is more than enough time for a team to go coast to coast and every footy fan knows that.

I'll also point out that there are other possible scenarios (albeit unlikely) involving Rankine kicking the ball short and it getting marked on the line / spilling over the boundary for a throw in or even a kick out on the full and the Crows remain behind by 1 point in those possible scenarios with approximately 1:10 on the clock. I'll state the obvious that the Suns could have done exactly what they did and wound down the clock to hold on for a 1 point win in those marked on the line / spill over the boundary / out on the full scenarios OR the Crows could have caused a turnover and snatched a win / draw.

There was just too much time on the clock for anyone to say definitively that the result would have been different if the umpires had blown the whistle with 1:45 to go.

 

[Delisted]

You got so angry about it the other day that I thought the least I could do was calm you down with examples

You seem a little calmer now.

No wonder people ignore you. Stop mentioning me and quoting me. Move on.

 

[Mr Gor]

Umps really helped gold coast a lot

 

[Yellow Feathers]

After rewatching I am even more satisfied with the outcome.

Rankine who? Wouldn’t get a game for us now.

 

[The Kings Ransom]

After rewatching I am even more satisfied with the outcome.

Rankine who? Wouldn’t get a game for us now.

We all know that isn’t true.

 

[arsene wenger1]

Rankine running too far? He ran 25 metres you absolute pancake. That was proven to be a ridiculously correct call.

You can tell someone is a biased flog when they’re complaining that their player who ran 25 metres without bouncing was hard done by.

Then pay it all the time you clown. He ran no further than anyone else does. That is the point

 

[apollo_creed]

Then pay it all the time you clown. He ran no further than anyone else does. That is the point

He absolutely did. They gave him 10m leeway before calling it.

The victim mentality for correct decisions is comical.

 

[ElectricG]

****ing hell, why does this just keep happening to the crows? Don’t get me wrong, I hate them and all and want to see them lose. But what’s the point of a rivalry in a game that’s unfair.

 

[CarterS]

 

[StillAtLarge]

Not one suns player got votes in the herald sun 3 2 1 hahaha

 

[TW Sherrin]

Did he technically have possession? If not he can't be tackled.

Or did the suns player knock it out and that's why his arms were there?

 

[Orange crush]

I was working and missed the game …. Anything interesting happen?

 

[PerthBoy86]

Or did the suns player knock it out and that's why his arms were there?

It's either a mark or illegally interfering in a marking contest. End of.