Autopsy AFL 2025 Round 8 - Bombers v North Thurs May 1st 7:30pm AEST (Marvel)

[Sentinel]

It is though, because at the end of the day a player holding him and restricting him from going back and taking his kick doesn't count as part of his 30 second time to take the shot typically. Otherwise the umps would have to start paying 50m penalties the minute a player is held onto after the whistle, so it's a bit of common sense, unless we want the game even further over officiated.

It's not relevant. The umpires are going off a shot clock. They're not counting exactly 30 seconds in their head.

McKay might have held him up by half a second in putting his arm slightly around him as he was walking back, and the person running the shot clock isn't adjusting for small delays as the player walks back to their mark. If McKay was truly holding him back more than allowed, it would be a 50m penalty. Outside of that, they go off the 30 seconds shot clock and nothing else.

It was more than 30 seconds between taking the mark and starting his walk in to kick.

 

[Dangerousfield]

2 on the bench in the last.

1 short on the field with the inanimate remains of Goldstein.

Still won.

Head scratcher.

No head scratcher, all balanced by having the mercurial Merrett save it for you and the hapless inept Roos as the opponent

 

[TheKanga]

Essendon only scored 3 goals after qtr time
but we still lost depressing

 

[LordLucifer]

Both teams and the umpires were woeful to watch.

 

[Atomboy]

Becoming like the EPL where it's the same teams every year.

Well Free Agency wasn’t setup to benefit smaller clubs, that for damn sure.

Maybe we just need to go back to zones.

 

[MisterMarcus]

North honestly looked the better team for most of the game - even before Essendon's injuries.

Just gave up too much of a start, and were so "not clean" with their ball handling and decision making.

 

[hutchy31]

Becoming like the EPL where it's the same teams every year.

The EPL doesn’t have equalisation measures like the draft or salary cap.

I’m all for exposing the imbalance in the comp, where fixturing and other inequities have an outsized impact on performance and growth for small clubs like ours in favour of entrenching the “bigger” clubs.

But there is no excuse for clubs to be down the bottom of the ladder for the best part of a decade, then still complain that they aren’t as good as other teams who haven’t been. Accessing top 5-10 talents for several years and still being poor is a club problem, not a competition problem.

 

[RCAB]

Nah watch the replay on kayo he marked it ....ump blew whistle a few sw

31 secs from the mark but 27 secs when ump blew whistle for paid mark anyhow umps have given more time for players pickin' their nose or jocks from their aarse n mouth guard in socks than that

I watched the replay on Kayo. Maybe it wasn't 40 seconds, it was 39.

 

[Lingsface]

North Melbourne tackles laid by forwards.

Leading the pack 1st gamer
Finbar Maley-2
Nick Larkey

20

Nick Larkey

Age

27

Ht

198cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.8

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

- 0
Jack Darling

28

Jack Darling

Age

33

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

- 0
Zane Duursma- 0
Cam Zurhaar- 1

Paul Curtis averages 4-5 a game, where they all scared of being suspended?

 

[Bungeye]

I agree but the clock is on the screen the bloke wasn’t even close he was still walking back exactly how long do you need? Would have been almost quicker to take a dump than whatever he did after marking the thing. Get back quick and you have 15 seconds to steady yourself, done and that’s in the time allowed.

Anyway, it really shouldn't be up to the umpires. The players around him should've yelled at him! The lack of urgency and composure are killing the kangaroos!

 

[Visions]

I went back and checked again, I got 28 seconds from the point McKay let go of him and he was able to walk back to his mark, but the umps were also blowing their whistles and directing players to stay out of the area, so they often don't count that as part of your time because they would then call you back to take your kick again if you DID kick.

All in all, you love to see the umpires finding new ways to insert themselves into a close game of football at the most decisive moments.

You are actually blaming the umpires on this call? Do you really think the umpire guesses the time?

There is a 30 second countdown clock on the big screen everyone in the stadium can see. Thats what the umpire goes off.

If you want to blame anyone, blame the idiot player. Completes the mark with 1.49 left on the clock, McKay pushes him with 1.47 left. and then he himself takes 15 seconds to mark the ground from where he will kick from. At 1.22 the umpire actually blows his whistle to give him the 5 second warning. At 1.17 he still stands like a statue and the umpire calls play on. Wasn’t only the umpire, the crowd at the ground saw the clock run down and were yelling knowing the time was up.

So no conspiracy no matter how much you would like the blame the umpire here.

 

[TheKanga]

The EPL doesn’t have equalisation measures like the draft or salary cap.

I’m all for exposing the imbalance in the comp, where fixturing and other inequities have an outsized impact on performance and growth for small clubs like ours in favour of entrenching the “bigger” clubs.

But there is no excuse for clubs to be down the bottom of the ladder for the best part of a decade, then still complain that they aren’t as good as other teams who haven’t been. Accessing top 5-10 talents for several years and still being poor is a club problem, not a competition problem.

There was a cluster**** of stuff ups that led us to where the club is now.
Including Heath Shaw having mental break and quitting as coach
Appointing a terrible president/ceo and untried coach in Noble
Cutting the list way to deep
Covid hub
Clarko racism bs
JHF leaving
Only winning 16 games in 5 ****ing years

I'm honestly not sure what the answer is but it's obvious there are mental demons on some of players of who have been there for a lot of that.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Anyway, it really shouldn't be up to the umpires. The players around him should've yelled at him! The lack of urgency and composure are killing the kangaroos!

Yep just shows where the team is you finally get a chance to win the game and where are the leaders? Sheezel 50m away in the back pocket or something

 

[Hayes4PM]

It's not relevant. The umpires are going off a shot clock. They're not counting exactly 30 seconds in their head.

McKay might have held him up by half a second in putting his arm slightly around him as he was walking back, and the person running the shot clock isn't adjusting for small delays as the player walks back to their mark. If McKay was truly holding him back more than allowed, it would be a 50m penalty. Outside of that, they go off the 30 seconds shot clock and nothing else.

It was more than 30 seconds between taking the mark and starting his walk in to kick.

I reckon you might be kidding yourself there. How often do players take a mark, opposition players take them to ground in a contest and there's 4 or 5 seconds before players get off them and they can walk back to take their shot. Umpires allow for all sorts of variations from the standard whistle - 30 seconds.

Same as when players are in the protected area and they try to play on, umps call it back. They regularly make allowances outside of a standard 30 seconds.

 

[captain ebert]

Great game

 

[Sentinel]

I reckon you might be kidding yourself there. How often do players take a mark, opposition players take them to ground in a contest and there's 4 or 5 seconds before players get off them and they can walk back to take their shot. Umpires allow for all sorts of variations from the standard whistle - 30 seconds.

Same as when players are in the protected area and they try to play on, umps call it back. They regularly make allowances outside of a standard 30 seconds.

Then show me an example of the clock shot pausing or a player not being called play on after the shot clock reaches zero. Or even a single example of a player starting their run up >30 seconds after a mark/free kick (and not something extremely borderline or where time was blown off if the ball was kicked away or something).

 

[voorhees]

There was a cluster**** of stuff ups that led us to where the club is now.
Including Heath Shaw having mental break and quitting as coach
Appointing a terrible president/ceo and untried coach in Noble
Cutting the list way to deep
Covid hub
Clarko racism bs
JHF leaving
Only winning 16 games in 5 ****ing years

I'm honestly not sure what the answer is but it's obvious there are mental demons on some of players of who have been there for a lot of that.

and you can add trading away your future first rounder

 

[SA HAWK]

Clarko press conference recap : Ummmmmmm

 

[TheKanga]

Clarko press conference recap : Ummmmmmm

Can't bring myself to watch that scratches ear

 

[voorhees]

Clarko press conference recap : Ummmmmmm

he can smile atleast..
man would be so down its not funny

 

[Lach72]

2 on the bench in the last.

1 short on the field with the inanimate remains of Goldstein.

Still won.

Head scratcher.

Zac Merrett.
If it wasn’t for him you’d be vying for bottom with the Eagles

 

[Duckimus Prime]

31 secs from the mark but 27 secs when ump blew whistle for paid mark anyhow umps have given more time for players pickin' their nose or jocks from their aarse n mouth guard in socks than that

So based on a week of North fans saying its when they catch the ball, not the umpire blowing the whistle thats important.

The it was all correct.

 

[Seattle Mariners]

I’ve never seen a team so reliant on a player like Essendon are reliant on Z Merrett. They’d be lucky to be 1-7 without him.

(Gawn a close second for Melbourne)

 

[Lingsface]

I’ve never seen a team so reliant on a player like Essendon are reliant on Z Merrett. They’d be lucky to be 1-7 without him.

(Gawn a close second for Melbourne)

Deserves a Brownlow.

 

[Blightys Barrel]

You are actually blaming the umpires on this call? Do you really think the umpire guesses the time?

There is a 30 second countdown clock on the big screen everyone in the stadium can see. Thats what the umpire goes off.

If you want to blame anyone, blame the idiot player. Completes the mark with 1.49 left on the clock, McKay pushes him with 1.47 left. and then he himself takes 15 seconds to mark the ground from where he will kick from. At 1.22 the umpire actually blows his whistle to give him the 5 second warning. At 1.17 he still stands like a statue and the umpire calls play on. Wasn’t only the umpire, the crowd at the ground saw the clock run down and were yelling knowing the time was up.

So no conspiracy no matter how much you would like the blame the umpire here.

Agree with all the above, accept the use of Idiot, or you sound like KornHole. For a first gamer let’s say the occasion got the better of him and leave it at that OK?