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I thought the big reason behind the push was to keep you alive? :confused:

Port Adelaide were never going to die.

The economics behind the 2 AFL licences are just wrong; the finances are skewed in favor of the SANFL far too much to make it fair and even. However, from my perspective they feel they need to gain every cent from the game day experience they earn but don't appreciate how they got this opportunity.

The split of money should be changed to make it far more even than what it actually is.
 

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Port Adelaide were never going to die.

The economics behind the 2 AFL licences are just wrong; the finances are skewed in favor of the SANFL far too much to make it fair and even. However, from my perspective they feel they need to gain every cent from the game day experience they earn but don't appreciate how they got this opportunity.

The split of money should be changed to make it far more even than what it actually is.
Agree with most, or most of it. Not sure that makes sense.

wrt Port pushing to play at AO, originally it was all about playing some games at a smaller and thus cheaper venue. The SANFL was obviously against that as they made money from games no matter how many turned up.

Agree wrt both teams having the same deal as long as both clubs get a more equitable share of the income.
IIRC, both of our clubs used to lose money whenever the number of spectators that turned up was smaller than the numbers predicted before the game. Once a large number turned up, around 35K IIRC, there was always going to be a small profit.

For those that are interested in more details I suggest you do your own research and look at how much profit we made from the Carlton game when 45,127 spectators turned up AND how much profit you lot made by averaging 33,613 spectators per game as you did in 2013.
After that compare those amounts to what Freo, WCE, Geelong, whoever make with similar numbers.

From both of our clubs perspective, purely from a financial point if view, there is no point having an extra 5-10K turn up at Adelaide Oval if our bottom line doesn't improve.
The AO deal needs to be better than the deal we got at AAMI.
 
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I don't have issue with what you have said.

And I've said many times, I hope(hoped as it won't happen) the SMA implement a financial package they club can gain the correct profit from the stadium. It shouldn't matter if you get 1 person turn up or 53,500 turn up. Clubs get every cent they make after the first $2,000,000 they make.

I hope the SMA just stayed the hell out if it and just give the clubs a bottom line figure they need to meet and then give both clubs a clean stadium. No cricket members, no SMA corporate boxes sold, no catering deal to manipulate the cost and it's all up to the clubs.

The stronger you market you match day experiences to gain more people turn up; the greater your profit margins will become.
 

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My sister and I went to the Adelaide Oval today, to have a look at the reserved seating options in the Western Stand. (There was an open day for Members.)

I have to say that we weren't overly impressed with the facilities. After looking everywhere for the toilets, we ended up having to ask the guy on the Info desk for directions. It appears that to get to the food outlets and toilets on the ground floor, you might get wet on rainy days.

Also, with the reserved seating options available to us, it seems we may have some sight issues. It will be difficult to see if the footy's kicked out on the full right in front of us. *picky picky*

Since I had no problems with anything at AAMI Stadium, it'll be interesting to see what it's like watching an actual game at Adelaide Oval. Time will tell, I guess.

 

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My sister and I went to the Adelaide Oval today, to have a look at the reserved seating options in the Western Stand. (There was an open day for Members.)

I have to say that we weren't overly impressed with the facilities. After looking everywhere for the toilets, we ended up having to ask the guy on the Info desk for directions. It appears that to get to the food outlets and toilets on the ground floor, you might get wet on rainy days.

Also, with the reserved seating options available to us, it seems we may have some sight issues. It will be difficult to see if the footy's kicked out on the full right in front of us. *picky picky*

Since I had no problems with anything at AAMI Stadium, it'll be interesting to see what it's like watching an actual game at Adelaide Oval. Time will tell, I guess.

Looking everywhere? There's toilets literally right at the start of the stand!

Plus on the top level they right out the front of each entrance.
 

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Isn't the issue with the western stand the lack of facilities? Ie no toilet in the bar, food only on the ground level?

There is definitely a wheelchair toilet and a male bathroom right at the beginning of the western stand.

Around the 3rd arch.

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Can't recall a female bathroom though.

And on the top level, there's toilets next to every entrance I believe.

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Looking everywhere? There's toilets literally right at the start of the stand!

Plus on the top level they right out the front of each entrance.
When we were looking, we were in the middle of the stand. When we walked in, we didn't go past the toilet area, as we were on a raised walkway.
 

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When we were looking, we were in the middle of the stand. When we walked in, we didn't go past the toilet area, as we were on a raised walkway.

From what I can recall there was definitely a wheelchair toilet out the front of each entrance, and I think there was normal bathrooms there as well.

I'll have to go back for the next SS game to re-check.

All I can remember is leaving on Friday afternoon and knowing I'll be find if I need to take quit pit stop during the game :p
 

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So basically they couldn't do enough to bring the Western Stand in line with the Eastern Stand as far as being suitable for an AFL sized crowd who all want to be served/use toilets etc at the same time. Kind of a shame. I think in this case the peoples stand on the other side might be the place to be.

Though I haven't actually been in there so don't know, is there room for the necessary upgrades eventually or are we pretty much talking its AAMI stadium Northern Grandstand but nicer looking?
 

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From what I can recall there was definitely a wheelchair toilet out the front of each entrance, and I think there was normal bathrooms there as well.

I'll have to go back for the next SS game to re-check.

All I can remember is leaving on Friday afternoon and knowing I'll be find if I need to take quit pit stop during the game :p
There are toilets on the ground floor at each end of the stand (we weren't allowed to go to the southern end), but there don't appear to be any in the middle. The main covered part is further into the middle of the back of the stand, which means there's only a very narrow covered area to get to the loos and food franchises, and possibly a small section without any cover at, iirc. At AAMI Stadium, the whole of the back of the western stand is undercover.
 

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So basically they couldn't do enough to bring the Western Stand in line with the Eastern Stand as far as being suitable for an AFL sized crowd who all want to be served/use toilets etc at the same time. Kind of a shame. I think in this case the peoples stand on the other side might be the place to be.

Though I haven't actually been in there so don't know, is there room for the necessary upgrades eventually or are we pretty much talking its AAMI stadium Northern Grandstand but nicer looking?
I'm not sure what they're planning to do. I just wasn't overly impressed. We even joked about them installing port-a-loos on game days to cater for the crowds. ;)
 

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I don't have issue with what you have said.

And I've said many times, I hope(hoped as it won't happen) the SMA implement a financial package they club can gain the correct profit from the stadium. It shouldn't matter if you get 1 person turn up or 53,500 turn up. Clubs get every cent they make after the first $2,000,000 they make.

I hope the SMA just stayed the hell out if it and just give the clubs a bottom line figure they need to meet and then give both clubs a clean stadium. No cricket members, no SMA corporate boxes sold, no catering deal to manipulate the cost and it's all up to the clubs.

The stronger you market you match day experiences to gain more people turn up; the greater your profit margins will become.
100% agree.
 

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What an awesome pic. Does anyone know whats going on between the footbridge and the station? Seems to be some kind of construction work around festival drive/north entrance of the station itself.

EDIT: haha scrub that just saw the vid
 

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And here's the project manager discussing the construction back in August.

When he mentions AFC in the video, he's talking about the Adelaide Festival Centre, incase anyone got confused :p

 
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