I've always wondered why people are surprised that the AFL wants star players to stay at GWS or the Suns. It's like they're shocked the AFL wants the expansion clubs to prosper.
Status in Question AFL and Coniglio's GWS deal
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And now Tim Watson has revealed on SEN this morning that Jobe Watson was paid for some years by the AFL as an "AFL Ambassador".
Dyson Heppell - WTF??
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But that doesn't explain why you think he stayed at GWS for less money.
GWS offer is reportedly $7mil over 7 years
Hawks offer was reportedly $5mil over 5 years
Blues offer was reportedly $7mil over 5 years
Technically the Blues offer is more before tax because he has another two years he could possibly making money for to overtake the GWS offer.
He got the most security at GWS, the money was pretty even across the board from what was reported.
We've only got what has been reported to go on.
He said himself in an interview
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Playing with your matesBut that doesn't explain why you think he stayed at GWS for less money.
GWS offer is reportedly $7mil over 7 years
Hawks offer was reportedly $5mil over 5 years
Blues offer was reportedly $7mil over 5 years
Technically the Blues offer is more before tax because he has another two years he could possibly making money for to overtake the GWS offer.
He got the most security at GWS, the money was pretty even across the board from what was reported.
We've only got what has been reported to go on.
He said himself in an interview
Why Clarko's call made Cogs feel like 'he was cheating on a girlfriend'
Stephen Coniglio opens up on his massive decision, the Hawthorn influence and his relationship with Wayne Campbellwww.afl.com.au
Staying at a team when you are an "orginal" (pretty rare)
Success (or at least finals) for the last 4 years
The certainty of what you know rather than the uncertainty of a new environment.
The family like culture the playing group constantly refer to when they speak of the club
All seem like reasonable reasons to stay
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It's the less money part I'm questioning.
Not saying he took the highest offer in front of him but from what I saw that was from the Saints and more of a PR exercise than an actual chance of getting him you'd think.
From what I have seen reported the Hawks and Giants had similar per year amounts but Giants had 2 more years on offer, Blues same length as the Hawks but more per year putting the total value close to the Giants offer.
So you could say he took let per year that Carlton, or maybe none of the years was as high a number but at 7 years and an estimate 1 mil per year, he's hardly walking away from cash from what I can see.
He's taken the job with the most security in contract length but it doesn't really look like he's left much cash on the table so where is the idea that he's turned his back on the cash to stay coming from? Seems more a PR exercise to me than fact.
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He is a saints man, yet no bastard will come to our rabble club so the campaigners not doing his job properly.
We should be swimming in A grade talent thats been given extra cash under the table, along with free hookers and blow.
Instead we get plonkers busted for doing blow.
Somethings not right here
Absolutely, it's quite outrageous he would ever think of staying loyal to his club for less money. After all, what other player has ever stayed loyal to his club for less money in the hope of being a one club and/or premiership player? Simply never happens. This whole thing of him refusing to leave his club is just too horrible.
When you've reamed your own club for everything you could get because of the threat of talking with other clubs, what better way to restore the faith than to start the rumour that you sacrificed something to stay? More money + illusion of taking less money. It's PR win-win.
But yeah, that's an assumption that is never questioned by the pundits who discuss trades endlessly on tv and radio - that you have to pry players out of clubs by paying huge overs. Although it's frequently true, there is really no reason why it has to be true.
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Ah. I see what’s happening here.
2018 trade period:
Hawks “ITK” posters - Shiel is coming to Hawthorn. Deal done months back. Lock it in.
Shiel goes to Bombers.
Hawks supporters “oh but we changed our mind”
2019 trade period:
Hawks “ITK” posters - Cogs is coming to Hawthorn. Deal done months back. Lock it in.
Coniglio re-signs with GWS.
Hawks supporters “oh then there must be a secret AFL deal”
Thanks for all the fun guys. Looking forward to Whitfield next year
2018 trade period:
Hawks “ITK” posters - Shiel is coming to Hawthorn. Deal done months back. Lock it in.
Shiel goes to Bombers.
Hawks supporters “oh but we changed our mind”
2019 trade period:
Hawks “ITK” posters - Cogs is coming to Hawthorn. Deal done months back. Lock it in.
Coniglio re-signs with GWS.
Hawks supporters “oh then there must be a secret AFL deal”
Thanks for all the fun guys. Looking forward to Whitfield next year
Well no club publishes contract details. That said I think I was pretty accepted that both the hawks And Carlton were offering more money. Carlton significantly more so.
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The killer was a stipulation of his contract was to Wake up Early, pick up the Worp every morning and carry his bags.
His loss.
Anyways, Wouldnt be suprised, Cant whinge over it. 7 Million for 7 years is overs for a guy who's only been robbed of all Australian twice in his career
His loss.
Anyways, Wouldnt be suprised, Cant whinge over it. 7 Million for 7 years is overs for a guy who's only been robbed of all Australian twice in his career
But that doesn't explain why you think he stayed at GWS for less money.
GWS offer is reportedly $7mil over 7 years
Hawks offer was reportedly $5mil over 5 years
Blues offer was reportedly $7mil over 5 years
Technically the Blues offer is more before tax because he has another two years he could possibly making money for to overtake the GWS offer.
He got the most security at GWS, the money was pretty even across the board from what was reported.
We've only got what has been reported to go on.
He said himself in an interview
Why Clarko's call made Cogs feel like 'he was cheating on a girlfriend'
Stephen Coniglio opens up on his massive decision, the Hawthorn influence and his relationship with Wayne Campbell
Hawks are now chasing pick 3 as a compensation pick for losing Coniglio!
No seriously Hawk supporters!
You are so entitled that you even get cut up when a player chooses to stay at their own club.
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What the * are you talking about?Hawks are now chasing pick 3 as a compensation pick for losing Coniglio!
No seriously Hawk supporters!
You are so entitled that you even get cut up when a player chooses to stay at their own club.
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Also no go home factor like a lot of the other guys who have moved on
He’s a WA boy so a move to Melbourne would probably more disruptive for his family than anything
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Hawks are now chasing pick 3 as a compensation pick for losing Coniglio!
No seriously Hawk supporters!
You are so entitled that you even get cut up when a player chooses to stay at their own club.
Compo is allowing us to trade our 1st pick again..Gil obviously feeling guilty
As much as I wanted him to come to the Hawks I consider myself unbiased on football things. If the reported numbers were true, he's giving up almost 3 MIL over 7 years to stay with Gws over the Blues (think Hawks offer was somewhere in the middle). Surely no sane person turns down 3 MIL. Wouldn't be surprised if AFL makes up some ambassador role to justify paying him more money. Unless Giants upped their offer why didn't he sign sooner if he's just loyal ?
Scott Pendlebury is paid as "AFL Ambassador" as well...
