Scandal AFL auditing third party payments from Geelong

[El Pablo]

Seems odd that Dangerfield would step down as AFLPA during a season...
Is he preempting some difficult questions ahead perhaps?

 

[FootyLad0]

Seems odd that Dangerfield would step down as AFLPA during a season...
Is he preempting some difficult questions ahead perhaps?

He's about to retire...seriously you can't make this shit up....
Swear all critical thinking goes out the window.

 

[FuManchu]

Seems odd that Dangerfield would step down as AFLPA during a season...
Is he preempting some difficult questions ahead perhaps?

He isn’t the list or football manager, nor CEO. So I’m not sure what role he would play in overpaying or out of cap deals to players.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Not going to trawl the thread to see if this has been canvassed.

Apparently the whole thing started with, of all people, Clayton Oliver.

Oliver met with a Geelong player at his regional property and that player hinted he was under no obligation to pay back his loan for it.

Oliver relayed this to someone at Melbourne after the trade fell through. Melbourne then approached GWS and told them “we almost got stiffed here and we think you got stiffed with Cameron”.

They also alerted the Dogs re Smith.

All three clubs, in a touching display of unity, reached out to the AFL to share their joint concern. Thus the audit.

 

[RWnBluey]

Not going to trawl the thread to see if this has been canvassed.

Apparently the whole thing started with, of all people, Clayton Oliver.

Oliver met with a Geelong player at his regional property and that player hinted he was under no obligation to pay back his loan for it.

Oliver relayed this to someone at Melbourne after the trade fell through. Melbourne then approached GWS and told them “we almost got stiffed here and we think you got stiffed with Cameron”.

They also alerted the Dogs re Smith.

All three clubs, in a touching display of unity, reached out to the AFL to share their joint concern. Thus the audit.

Colour me shocked

 

[McKuursma]

Oh yeh' that sounds legit

Lol

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Not going to trawl the thread to see if this has been canvassed.

Apparently the whole thing started with, of all people, Clayton Oliver.

Oliver met with a Geelong player at his regional property and that player hinted he was under no obligation to pay back his loan for it.

Oliver relayed this to someone at Melbourne after the trade fell through. Melbourne then approached GWS and told them “we almost got stiffed here and we think you got stiffed with Cameron”.

They also alerted the Dogs re Smith.

All three clubs, in a touching display of unity, reached out to the AFL to share their joint concern. Thus the audit.

There's been a lot of Geelong players who've been delisted and who would have been keen to go on. A lot of players targeted by Geelong over the years who weren't ultimately landed. A lot of people with an axe to grind over many years.

If it's played out as you've described, it'd be surprising if it ended up being Oliver to blow the lid off - what must have been - an open secret to anyone who's had anything to do with Geelong over the past decade.

I'd be amazed if it went beyond the grey area of third party endorsement deals, something that I'm not really sure how you can stop with the AFL's set-up and that I'm sure all clubs do (or try to) to some extent. If it's played out the way you've described (and, importantly, if it's actually true), it's blatant cheating.

 

[Anja_Nees]

There's been a lot of Geelong players who've been delisted and who would have been keen to go on. A lot of players targeted by Geelong over the years who weren't ultimately landed. A lot of people with an axe to grind over many years.

If it's played out as you've described, it'd be surprising if it ended up being Oliver to blow the lid off - what must have been - an open secret to anyone who's had anything to do with Geelong over the past decade.

I'd be amazed if it went beyond the grey area of third party endorsement deals, something that I'm not really sure how you can stop with the AFL's set-up and that I'm sure all clubs do (or try to) to some extent. If it's played out the way you've described (and, importantly, if it's actually true), it's blatant cheating.

The way it was put to me is that Oliver (a noted rocket scientist) didn’t fully get the gravity of what he was telling Melbourne and just blurted it out.

Who knows - maybe he just didn’t fully grasp it and it’s more benign than it seems. Either way, he appears to be the genesis of the audit.

 

[Walter H White]

Not going to trawl the thread to see if this has been canvassed.

Apparently the whole thing started with, of all people, Clayton Oliver.

Oliver met with a Geelong player at his regional property and that player hinted he was under no obligation to pay back his loan for it.

Oliver relayed this to someone at Melbourne after the trade fell through. Melbourne then approached GWS and told them “we almost got stiffed here and we think you got stiffed with Cameron”.

They also alerted the Dogs re Smith.

All three clubs, in a touching display of unity, reached out to the AFL to share their joint concern. Thus the audit.

I hope you have a good lawyer

 

[Anja_Nees]

I hope you have a good lawyer

I am one.

 

[HairyO]

I am one.

And so is my wife.

 

[Anja_Nees]

And so is my wife.

And your uncle’s a KC.

 

[Saint12]

I hope you have a good lawyer

You know a good one.

 

[Munich]

Not going to trawl the thread to see if this has been canvassed.

Apparently the whole thing started with, of all people, Clayton Oliver.

Oliver met with a Geelong player at his regional property and that player hinted he was under no obligation to pay back his loan for it.

Oliver relayed this to someone at Melbourne after the trade fell through. Melbourne then approached GWS and told them “we almost got stiffed here and we think you got stiffed with Cameron”.

They also alerted the Dogs re Smith.

All three clubs, in a touching display of unity, reached out to the AFL to share their joint concern. Thus the audit.

Yeah... so Oliver, a drug and gambling addict, is the one who blew the lid on our secret deals. No other player Geelong has gone after has blown their horn and alerted anyone until now.

Sure.

 

[Elixuh]

Oh yeh' that sounds legit

If we are being honest, it kinda does.

The net is closing.

 

[sr36]

If we are being honest, it kinda does.

The net is closing.

I say we keep the innuendo flowing, but it doesn't sound legit to me - they're being audited rather than investigated.

 

[joe444]

Coming from a Brisbane Lions supporter, your opinion means literally nothing on this particular topic.

Brisbane you say? As in this Brisbane?

Callum Ah Chee, Charlie Cameron, Joe Daniher, Sam Day, Tom Doedee, Josh Dunkley, Lincoln McCarthy, Lachie Neale ...

I say we keep the innuendo flowing, but it doesn't sound legit to me - they're being audited rather than investigated.

And so are Port.
Regular audit. Indeed, four supplementary audits of other clubs who still have some 'splaining to do. Imagine if Geelong were one of them. (source: Fox Sports)

 

[Elixuh]

I say we keep the innuendo flowing, but it doesn't sound legit to me - they're being audited rather than investigated.

With the AFL you’ve got to read between the lines.

It’s like when war ships fire a round across the bow.

 

[Bluelegs]

Yeah... so Oliver, a drug and gambling addict, is the one who blew the lid on our secret deals. No other player Geelong has gone after has blown their horn and alerted anyone until now.

Sure.

Isn't that basically how Carlton got caught?

 

[joe444]

After Richmond, GWS and Melbourne, Geelong has the fewsest players from other clubs on their list.

Just though a fact or two may not go astray here, but it really is like trying to engage in a discussion with the wind.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Coming from a Brisbane Lions supporter, your opinion means literally nothing on this particular topic.

He's a lame troll not worth listening to. Bay 13 standard contributions. It's sad really.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

geelong fans are soooo touchy.

it's actually quite believable.

geelong haven't even hidden utilizing their sponsors to get their player remunerated

• smith with cotton on
• scott with morris finance
• selwood with some sort of dodgy loan agreement

you seriously don't think they'd be utilizing Simonds for housing deals for players? spare me.

you're pushing the envelope, but not breaking the rules, there's an audit, you'll pass it. not sure why you're all so sensitive about it.

all scandals get broken by a thick football player running their mouth - james hird was texting stephen dank about jabs ffs.

 

[uzabuz]

So in summary Oliver thought if went to Geelong he’d never have to pay back his tic. When he found out it only applies for property deals he decided to stay with the devil he knew.
Makes sense.

 

[joe444]

geelong fans are soooo touchy.

it's actually quite believable.

geelong haven't even hidden utilizing their sponsors to get their player remunerated

• smith with cotton on
• scott with morris finance
• selwood with some sort of dodgy loan agreement

you seriously don't think they'd be utilizing Simonds for housing deals for players? spare me.

you're pushing the envelope, but not breaking the rules, there's an audit, you'll pass it. not sure why you're all so sensitive about it.

all scandals get broken by a thick football player running their mouth - james hird was texting stephen dank about jabs ffs.

You actually summarise my position, personally. I think I'm more touchy because it has gained so much traction.

The club has done so much right to get up from its knees in '99, it's almost as if the smaller clubs resent us no long schlepping it with them and the stronger clubs resent us getting in their way.

And, like all conspiracy theories, the mere fact that we keep passing any review or audit will be seen as further confirmation that the conspiracy exists.

I mean, ffs, half of Collingwood's list is "poached" by the standard Geelong is held to. We play thirteen frigging away games a year in a comp where the narrowness of Marvel and Adelaide Oval aren't mentioned. Cotton On had Smith on their books in 2021 because he was a marketable Grand Final star. Argh.

It feels like any other club in the comp wouldn't get a second glance over this stuff.

 

[STPer18]

The club has done so much right to get up from its knees in '99, it's almost as if the smaller clubs resent us no long schlepping it with them and the stronger clubs resent us getting in their way.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!