AFL Clubs and Pokies

[juss]

I don't like it, but some clubs will always use it as long as there is no rule against it. I'm not sure if the Tigers are associated with any. I don't really follow it that closely.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Having said that, people should be educated before they start gambling.

 

[telsor]

Nobody would protest about getting rid of them.

If they were actually getting rid of them, I'd agree in the strongest terms.

But while they're legal and so many of them are around, I don't have a problem with clubs (mine included) being on the receiving end of some of the income.

Selling them off to someone else, and then claiming your hands are clean (while spending the profits of the sale and the same number of machines are out there) is a pretty meaningless gesture.

 

[telsor]

I don't like it, but some clubs will always use it as long as there is no rule against it. I'm not sure if the Tigers are associated with any. I don't really follow it that closely.

We are....We don't have as many as most, but we have some.

 

[Hawkk]

Pretty sure that's not 20 million in profit. Besides, Hawthorn have invested a lot of money into pokies venues. Even if they sold them, Hawthorn then have a **** ton of money to invest into other things which North won't have.

The point is, if it's not pokies, clubs like Hawthorn, Collingwood and West Coast (no pokies for them anyway) still have more money to invest into whatever money making cause they want. Sure, they don't exist to make profit, but profit sure as hell ensures they continue to exist.

This.

They'd probably buy another Dingley, get it rezoned and package land parcels for developments

 

[blue harvest]

Hawthorn making almost $20M from their pokies compared to North who make $0 is probably a large contributor to that gap though.

That's revenue, not profit.

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

I agree that it isn't necessarily a good look. But as long as there isn't a rule against it then fair game. As another poster said, if a rule was brought in then the clubs just sell the venues/pokies and take in more $$$ and invest in something else.

 

[ManWithNoName]

That's revenue, not profit.

So Hawthorn are drawing $19.5M out of the community for a profit substantially less than that?

And that's better how?

 

[blue harvest]

So Hawthorn are drawing $19.5M out of the community for a profit substantially less than that?

And that's better how?

Wasn't debating the issue, was just correcting your assumption that Hawks were getting $20M and North $0.
Profit is substantially less than revenue, it costs money to run the places, service debts etc.

 

[jim boy]

That's revenue, not profit.

Actually its gross profit, the amount of money put in by gamblers less the amount paid out to gamblers.

 

[The 747]

because hard drugs are legal, right?

Because governments are the be all and end all of morality right? And laws never change right?

 

[The 747]

no more than alcohol, fast food and prescription drugs

Fast food destroys as many lives as gambling eh?

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Because governments are the be all and end all of morality right? And laws never change right?

so you think gambling should be illegal?

you're seriously comparing it to hard drugs? you're an idiot lol

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Should be banned nation wide and it's a sham that AFL clubs are involved with them to begin with

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Fast food destroys as many lives as gambling eh?

obesity number 1 killer in the western world. but whatever.

 

[The 747]

so you think gambling should be illegal?

you're seriously comparing it to hard drugs? you're an idiot lol

I have similar view about your intelligence but I think my view is more informed than yours.

 

[The 747]

obesity number 1 killer in the western world. but whatever.

You're one of those guys who believes what you read.....ok cheers

 

[Furn2]

Fast food destroys as many lives as gambling eh?

Many many times more. Anti gambling sites estimate the see around 115k problem gamblers of which 20% have a serious problem.

While 1.7mil Australians have diabetes, another 1.5 mil have pre diabetes and almost 6mil have fatty liver disease.

 

[Scotland]

Glad my club doesnt touch them

The reason we don't have them is they are illegal in WA and not part of pub/social club culture over here.

If pokies were as prevalent in WA as they are in Victoria then we would be into them, unfortunately.

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

I have similar view about your intelligence but I think my view is more informed than yours.

i think you've done too many hard drugs

 

[Pessimistic]

Hawthorn making almost $20M from their pokies compared to North who make $0 is probably a large contributor to that gap though.

Maybe north should refuse the laundered blood money that comes via taxes, redistribution.

on topic. Afl with its stadia deals has a flawed core business model, so allows clubs to suppliment that with gambling revenue

 

[Matt Slade]

What is the actual breakdown for number of machines and venues per club?

 

[Vic pokiesmon]

I'd rather be a fat than a degenerate gambler.

Do we live in a society that can tackle two issues at once?

 

[telsor]

so you think gambling should be illegal?

you're seriously comparing it to hard drugs? you're an idiot lol

It's valid in the sense that when it was illegal (casino/pokies type games), there was a black market for gambling...

 

[Vic pokiesmon]

Do we live in a society that can tackle two issues at once?

I agree that it isn't necessarily a good look. But as long as there isn't a rule against it then fair game. As another poster said, if a rule was brought in then the clubs just sell the venues/pokies and take in more $$$ and invest in something else.

Nothing personal to u but not a good look?Its an embarassing disgrace.Research has shown that pokies are designed to be addictive and it should be treated as a disease.This is seperate to standard gambling although yes people get addicted to this as well.I dont mind a bet myself but have witnessed people playing pokies as a form of self harm and tried to commit suicide etc..Afl would know all this but clubs dependant on its revenue..$90 million or 45 million.Whatever the pure profit surely football department spending or other areas have to be cut.Would love to see someone ask someone in Melbourne club land how they feel about there wages being paid for by pokies blood money.That what it is