Coach AFL Coaches Votes 2021

kane249 · Mar 22, 2021

Round 1

West Coast v Gold Coast

8 Tim Kelly (WCE)
7 Oscar Allen (WCE)
5 Dom Sheed (WCE)
4 Shannon Hurn (WCE)
2 David Swallow (GCFC)
2 Jack Bowes (GCFC)
1 Tom Barrass (WCE)
1 Jack Lukosius (GCFC)

THE A5 · Mar 22, 2021

Can someone provide a break down of the votes?

squashface · Mar 22, 2021

Kelly 5 and 3
Allen 4 and 3
Sheed 5 and 0
Hurn 4 and 0
Swallow 2 and 0
Bowes 2 and 0
Barrass 1 and 0
Lukosius 1 and 0

Weird votes

Ambrose Burnside · Mar 22, 2021

squashface said:
Kelly 5 and 3
Allen 4 and 3
Sheed 5 and 0
Hurn 4 and 0
Swallow 2 and 0
Bowes 2 and 0
Barrass 1 and 0
Lukosius 1 and 0

Weird votes

So only Kelly and Allen were rated by both coaches? And neither rated Cole?

Odd

MrWoollie · Mar 22, 2021

squashface said:
Kelly 5 and 3
Allen 4 and 3
Sheed 5 and 0
Hurn 4 and 0
Swallow 2 and 0
Bowes 2 and 0
Barrass 1 and 0
Lukosius 1 and 0

Weird votes

Not as weird as the Adelaide game.
Both coaches gave 5 votes to Tex. Then couldn't agree on a single player. They only thing they did the same was to give a token 1 vote each to a Geelong player. Even then they couldn't agree on which one!

Good to see Tom Hickey get a 4 and a 3 for Sydney in his first outing.

10 Taylor Walker (ADEL)
4 Brodie Smith (ADEL)
4 Rory Laird (ADEL)
3 Rory Sloane (ADEL)
3 Ben Keays (ADEL)
2 Jordon Butts (ADEL)
2 Lachlan Sholl (ADEL)
1 Tom Stewart (GEEL)
1 Mark Blicavs (GEEL)

Dylan82 · Mar 22, 2021

squashface said:
Kelly 5 and 3
Allen 4 and 3
Sheed 5 and 0
Hurn 4 and 0
Swallow 2 and 0
Bowes 2 and 0
Barrass 1 and 0
Lukosius 1 and 0

Weird votes

Interesting... We know Simpson hates clangers, so I'm presuming have gave his 5 to Kelly (0 clangers), rather than Sheed (7 clangers).

Which means we can work out the 5, 4, 3 votes. Similarly, Bowes had 30 disposals at 100% efficiency and Lukosius gained 787 metres for just one clanger, which appear more down the Simpson route than the performances of Swallow or Barrass.

If those presumptions are correct, we get the following tally:

One coach values winning the ball, whilst the other places a higher value upon using it.

WCE_phil · Mar 22, 2021

Dylan82 said:
Interesting... We know Simpson hates clangers, so I'm presuming have gave his 5 to Kelly (0 clangers), rather than Sheed (7 clangers).

Which means we can work out the 5, 4, 3 votes. Similarly, Bowes had 30 disposals at 100% efficiency and Lukosius gained 787 metres for just one clanger, which appear more down the Simpson route than the performances of Swallow or Barrass.

If those presumptions are correct, we get the following tally:

View attachment 1083658

One coach values winning the ball, whilst the other places a higher value upon using it.

If Sheed doesn't step up with 9 clearances, 12 marks, 34 disposals and a goal assist we were nowhere near it. To put it into perspective we had 30 clearances total. Of sheed's clangers his behind counts as 1 as does his free kick against. So really it's 5 clangers out of 34 disposals. Even though it was only 3 he also topped us for tackles.

Sheed basically covered the loss of one of Shuey or Yeo on the inside as well as covering for the complete annihilation of Gaff getting 8 disposals up until 3/4 time. As far as im concerned Sheed kept us in the game for the first 3 quarters.

Dylan82 · Mar 22, 2021

WCE_phil said:
If Sheed doesn't step up with 9 clearances, 12 marks, 34 disposals and a goal assist we were nowhere near it. To put it into perspective we had 30 clearances total. Of sheed's clangers his behind counts as 1 as does his free kick against. So really it's 5 clangers out of 34 disposals. Even though it was only 3 he also topped us for tackles.

Sheed basically covered the loss of one of Shuey or Yeo on the inside as well as covering for the complete annihilation of Gaff getting 8 disposals up until 3/4 time. As far as im concerned Sheed kept us in the game for the first 3 quarters.

Completely agree with you there - I had him in the best three players on ground with Kelly and Allen.

MrWoollie · Mar 22, 2021

Dylan82 said:
Interesting... We know Simpson hates clangers, so I'm presuming have gave his 5 to Kelly (0 clangers), rather than Sheed (7 clangers).

Which means we can work out the 5, 4, 3 votes. Similarly, Bowes had 30 disposals at 100% efficiency and Lukosius gained 787 metres for just one clanger, which appear more down the Simpson route than the performances of Swallow or Barrass.

If those presumptions are correct, we get the following tally:

View attachment 1083658

One coach values winning the ball, whilst the other places a higher value upon using it.

I like your analysis, but not sure that's how it was.

According to the WCE website, the club (Simmo?) had Sheed as best on ground.

Best Eagle afield: Dom Sheed

The prolific midfielder was everywhere against the Suns as West Coast notched an opening round victory

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

Is there a way of finding out who gave what?

Keys · Mar 23, 2021

MrWoollie said:
I like your analysis, but not sure that's how it was.

According to the WCE website, the club (Simmo?) had Sheed as best on ground.

Best Eagle afield: Dom Sheed

The prolific midfielder was everywhere against the Suns as West Coast notched an opening round victory

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

Is there a way of finding out who gave what?

That best afield for Sheed is based on supporter votes so nothing official from the club as such

To the best of my knowledge coaches individual votes are never disclosed

Ambrose Burnside · Mar 23, 2021

It's funny, Sheed gave away two free kicks in a row (one was out on the full, the other might have been a dodgy deliberate call) and I was annoyed with him for the rest of the game.

Being there live, I rated Kelly higher, but it does look like Sheed had a damn good game. Sometimes looking at the stats does pay off after all

Chris_6678 · Mar 29, 2021

AFLCA Champion Player of the Year - AFL Coaches Association Awards - AFL Coaches Association

aflcoaches.com.au

Current total:

8 Tim Kelly
8 Dom Sheed
7 Oscar Allen
5 Nic Naitanui
4 Shannon Hurn
1 Tom Barrass

Ochre · Mar 29, 2021

Sheed 3 and 0 this time. Weird

DanWCE · Mar 29, 2021

Ochre said:
Sheed 3 and 0 this time. Weird

I'd be surprised if both coaches gave Naughton a vote as well, so that looks more likely to be a 2 from Bevo, and singles to Dunkley. It is a bit wishy washy.

DanWCE · Mar 29, 2021

I just had a quick look at some stats of the big men to try and make sense of that, as JK had more goals and marks than Naughton.

Of JKs 11 disposals, 5 were scoring shots. The balance (6) were all turnovers

The Passenger · Mar 30, 2021

DanWCE said:
I just had a quick look at some stats of the big men to try and make sense of that, as JK had more goals and marks than Naughton.

Of JKs 11 disposals, 5 were scoring shots. The balance (6) were all turnovers

the AFL.com.au stats have JK with 0 turnovers ?

DanWCE · Mar 30, 2021

The Passenger said:
the AFL.com.au stats have JK with 0 turnovers ?

Yeah you're right. There's 6 Turnovers under marks which is what I spotted. Not sure what this implies - intercepts? His Intercept Possessions are listed as 0.

squashface · Mar 30, 2021

DanWCE said:
Yeah you're right. There's 6 Turnovers under marks which is what I spotted. Not sure what this implies - intercepts? His Intercept Possessions are listed as 0.

View attachment 1089472

Maybe first mark after a turnover? So not the player that intercepted but the next player in the chain? Idk

Cursedsword02 · Apr 6, 2021

Coaches' votes, R3: 10-vote Tex surges clear, Swans dominate

The coaches' votes are in for round three of the 2021 AFL Toyota Premiership Season

www.afl.com.au

Round 3 Votes:
9 Nic Naitanui (WCE)
8 Luke Shuey (WCE)
4 Tim Kelly (WCE)
3 Andrew Gaff (WCE)
3 Shannon Hurn (WCE)
2 Tom Barrass (WCE)
1 Josh J Kennedy (WCE)

Current Overall Total:
14 Nic Naitanui
12 Tim Kelly
8 Dom Sheed
8 Luke Shuey
7 Oscar Allen
7 Shannon Hurn
3 Andrew Gaff
3 Tom Barrass
1 Josh J Kennedy

the harry · Apr 6, 2021

Cursedsword02 said:
Coaches' votes, R3: 10-vote Tex surges clear, Swans dominate

The coaches' votes are in for round three of the 2021 AFL Toyota Premiership Season

www.afl.com.au

Round 3 Votes:
9 Nic Naitanui (WCE)
8 Luke Shuey (WCE)
4 Tim Kelly (WCE)
3 Andrew Gaff (WCE)
3 Shannon Hurn (WCE)
2 Tom Barrass (WCE)
1 Josh J Kennedy (WCE)

Current Overall Total:
14 Nic Naitanui
12 Tim Kelly
8 Dom Sheed
8 Luke Shuey
7 Oscar Allen
7 Shannon Hurn
3 Andrew Gaff
3 Tom Barrass
1 Josh J Kennedy

Kelly gets 2nd best on from one and zero from the other coach? Would love to know if that is just Simpson having massive standards

RanaNaved · Apr 6, 2021

squashface said:
Maybe first mark after a turnover? So not the player that intercepted but the next player in the chain? Idk

It's marks inside 50. Don't know why it says turnovers.

Dylan82 · Apr 6, 2021

the harry said:
Kelly gets 2nd best on from one and zero from the other coach? Would love to know if that is just Simpson having massive standards

Kelly had 9 clangers. Simpson hates clangers.

Dylan82 · Apr 6, 2021

Speculative again, but here is a likely breakdown of the coaches' votes:

Tugga27 · Apr 6, 2021

On the Sunday Footy Show, NN didn't even get a vote

Avalor · Apr 6, 2021

Tugga27 said:
On the Sunday Footy Show, NN didn't even get a vote

Seriously, how brain dead can they be?

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