AFL considering interstate grand finals

[Altum Volantes]

You have mentioned that the MCC would be compensated, but what about the Victorian state government?

The Grand Final contract isn't an agreement between two parties, but three. When the contract was extended in 2018, it added 20 years to the deal in return for $500 million in investment for Victorian AFL venues-- $25 million a year.

I’ll repeat my question from earlier— what financial compensation would the AFL need to pay the Victorian state government to get them to agree to a change in the Grand Final agreement?

You would like a dollar figure?

A decent whack of cash all round I think.

The AFL got $80m for 3 years from the SA Gov for a new concept in Gather Round. I think you'd be looking at $100m at least from state govs for a GF, especially if we are talking 5-10 years from now.

So there is likely going to be a bit of cash in play should they go down this path.

Anyway, as you know, this is all hypothetical pondering - if you believe it would be impossible to imagine then so be it.

 

[revo333]

As someone who knows far too much about these things - there's a lot of dirty money and dirty secrets behind that deal.

You don't have to know much to know that if Saudi Arabia is involved then the money is dirty.

 

[Senor M]

You would like a dollar figure?

A decent whack of cash all round I think.

The AFL got $80m for 3 years from the SA Gov for a new concept in Gather Round. I think you'd be looking at $100m at least from state govs for a GF, especially if we are talking 5-10 years from now.

So there is likely going to be a bit of cash in play should they go down this path.

Anyway, as you know, this is all hypothetical pondering - if you believe it would be impossible to imagine then so be it.

$80 mil across 3 years for Gather Round, or a bit under $27 mil a year, isn't that much more than what the Victorian government already paid for the 20-year extension to the Grand Final contract in 2018.

The Victorian government isn't going to agree to a change in contract to get paid back an extra million or two a year.

Clearly a hypothetical scenario-- but you're the one suggesting to a change to the status quo, seemingly without understanding the implications of what you're suggesting.

 

[Colonial]

Every second year the Grand Final should be held away from the MCG. Rotate it through other states.

It's a national competition.

Think that would be a good middle ground.

But would make the states compete for it. Get that coin from them for the show. I’m saying the Bic should be paying for the privilege too.

 

[Cmarsh]

A GF at a full Accor stadium in Sydney (and I think it would be full regardless of who was playing) would be fantastic for the game.

 

[Senor M]

A GF at a full Accor stadium in Sydney (and I think it would be full regardless of who was playing) would be fantastic for the game.

Mate--- Sydney can barely sell out Accor Stadium for the NRL Grand Final.

 

[Farang83150]

for every 1 interstate GF, probably tack on another 10 years to the current MCG GF hosting agreement...

Why?

 

[Cleavy]

Why?

Vic bias, obviously /s

 

[Farang83150]

Not on my MCC membership they won’t.

Would just be a dust collector for a Carlton supporter

 

[Farang83150]

Vic bias, obviously /s

Ok

 

[Outtatym]

A GF at a full Accor stadium in Sydney (and I think it would be full regardless of who was playing) would be fantastic for the game.

It's a shit hole. AFL hasn't been played there in what -15 years?

 

[Hollow Knight]

This needs to happen, and will.

Time for the game to grow up.

 

[ApplecrossWC]

Yet another ridiculous idea by the AFL, next!

 

[Senor M]

It's a shit hole. AFL hasn't been played there in what -15 years?

Round 1, 2022

 

[Farang83150]

That's how I imagine it. It's going to be a massive event wherever it's held, and broadcasting is a much bigger factor than attendance now anyway.

Exactly

 

[Outtatym]

Round 1, 2022

Mind blown. Were both grounds available or were they supremely optimistic they would get a crowd bigger than 25k? Point still stands, its a shit hole.

 

[SC_Power]

Guaranteed Vic GF every year should be locked in.

Guaranteed non Vic PF’s shouldn’t be an issue either. Clearly.

 

[garlic munchers]

And having the states compete to host will bring in the coin.

Well if its $$$$ that count, we can all see where this is going using AFL past GF entertainment to parlance:

Western Australia = Budget Surplus $2.4 billion - A medley of "Love is in the Air" and "Up There Cazaly", rolled in with a dash of Kiss; simply a case of "I Was Made For Loving You".


South Australia = Budget Surplus $179 million - A "Dark Horse" mixed with "the Power of a Dream", but in reality its Human Nature singing "Waltzing Matilda" and not likely anytime soon that the GF "Will Still Call (Sth) Australia Home".


Tasmania = Budget Deficit $1 billion - If "The House Is A Rockin" then the stadium will have been built, but more likely that The Batmobile runs out of petrol half way around, leaving them as the Bachelor Girl.

New South Wales = $3.4 billion Budget Deficit - More chance of finding the "Holy Grail" than hosting this.

Queensland Budget Deficit $8.6 Billion = "Another One Bites The Dust" after the one off 2020 "Flashdance" proves a flash in the pan.


Victoria = Debt, debt and more debt, "Yesterday's Hero" makes Meatloaf sound like Pavarotti, as it grasps at an "Impossible Dream" because Jacinta "Baby Did A Bad Bad Thing" in a state full of "Criminals", "Jokers and the Thief(s)".

NT, Canberra = No chance, will "Burn" "On That One Day in September".

 

[Call Me Cake]

Yeah, nah. Build 100,000 capacity stadiums, then we'll talk (have literally had 100 years to do so).

WA has the money to do it but refuses to. If it's due to population, have more kids then.

Otherwise, the MCG will remain the best place for the most fans to see their team win a Grand Final live. We're not changing that because of feelings of inadequacy. That's a you problem.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Yeah, nah. Build 100,000 capacity stadiums, then we'll talk (have literally had 100 years to do so).

WA has the money to do it but refuses to. If it's due to population, have more kids then.

Otherwise, the MCG will remain the best place for the most fans to see their team win a Grand Final live. We're not changing that because of feelings of inadequacy. That's a you problem.

Hehe, this guy thinks he has a say.

 

[BigVic]

A GF at a full Accor stadium in Sydney (and I think it would be full regardless of who was playing) would be fantastic for the game.

GWS never play home games there and Accor Stadium is always criticised by fans despite holding a bigger capacity than ENGIE.

The Grand Final drew 61,118 fans at Perth Stadium in WA 4 years ago

 

[BigVic]

The Grand Final contract isn't an agreement between two parties, but three. When the contract was extended in 2018, it added 20 years to the deal in return for $500 million in investment for Victorian AFL venues-- $25 million a year.

The contract initially went to 2058 before being extended to 2059 then 2060 when Melbourne surrendered the Grand Final to Brisbane and Perth

 

[Mitchell Madness]

In theory its fine, but does the average fan think the prices will remain the same. The leafue also wont reduce the corporate tickets, so that means less tickets for the little guy.
The average price will also sky-rocket. They arent going to lose 40k seats without a trade off.

 

[Call Me Cake]

Hehe, this guy thinks he has a say.

Hehe, this guy thinks he has a say.

 

[Altum Volantes]

In theory its fine, but does the average fan think the prices will remain the same. The leafue also wont reduce the corporate tickets, so that means less tickets for the little guy.
The average price will also sky-rocket. They arent going to lose 40k seats without a trade off.

Have you seen how much we already pay to go to the footy in WA?...