AFL CONSIDERS CRICKET CHALLENGE SYSTEM

Wayne Dwop

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AFL CONSIDERS CRICKET CHALLENGE SYSTEM
The AFL’s score review system (ARC) has been in the firing line all week following a calamitous error during Saturday’s preliminary final between GWS and Collingwood.
Collingwood’s Josh Thomas was awarded a goal in the final quarter despite replays showing the ball was touched by Giants player Lachie Keefe.
The league conceded an error had been made with a statement the day after the game, but now AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan has detailed a new addition to the system.
Players could soon have the power to challenge scoring decisions with the AFL considering implementing the changes similar to cricket’s review system.
This one would definitely be sent for review.

This one would definitely be sent for review.Source:News Corp Australia
“The AFL is considering a challenge system in score review, much like what we see in cricket,” Tom Morris told SEN’s Sportsday.
“So the players — you’d think in the AFL’s case it would be the captain of the team — having the ability to execute X amount of challenges per quarter or per game, and taking it out of the hands exclusively of the umpires.
“The same applied in cricket. If the umpire wasn’t sure for a while, they’d send it upstairs.”
 

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I've been advocating for this for a while.

Umpires can go back to making a decision and players can challenge if they think they are wrong. The reviewers will also know what they are looking for and which player is claiming they touched it, which might speed things up.

Give players 2 challenges and they lose one if they are wrong - if you are correct you don't lose a review. I say 2 because a player may correctly claim he touched a ball but the vision might be obscured so he would lose a challenge. Give them too many and they'll use them to slow the game down.

Not sure if the captain should ask for the review or simply anyone. Captain might be off the field or away from the play.
 

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So they want to take the WORST part of the cricket system - the players calling for reviews - and think that will solve this broken system. So which captain will be the next Tim Paine or Shane Watson.

You need to fix the problem, not add even more opportunities to stuff it up.
 

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Coaches will use it as a tactic to arrest the opposition's momentum.
It's a fair point but....

Reviews would be limited so they might think twice about throwing them away. You never know when you might want one.

However, let's assume they do. I'll also assume that it is the defensive team challenging a goal to try and buy some time.

Firstly, there is a 30 second break between a goal and a bounce anyway. So a review may not take up much more time than is already being used.

Secondly, these wouldn't be a general review where they check if it was touched off the boot or on the line or did it hit a post. To call a review a player would have to say what he thought happened. "it was touched off the boot" for example. The reviewer would then look at that bit of footage only. If it was a false claim it could be dismissed very quickly.

As it stands, players can't call for a review. Their reactions about whether they touched a ball are very genuine. Yet I've seen goalies call for a review to see if a ball was touched when the player hasn't reacted at all. What's the point? The umpire should make a decision (which they still have to now before a review) and let the player decide if they're wrong. It would save a lot more time.
 

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Apart from throwing up more issues with tactical reviews, review blunders leading to incorrect decisions not being overturned later on, etc, what would it solve?

Aren't all scores reviewed anyway, even when no on-field umpire called for it? The same person doing the same review would have led to the same incorrect result, except with a team losing the right to review something later on. Backward move.
 

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The problem with the review is the poor quality of the camera's and the poor decision making of the reviewers.

The system is fine, the cricket style challenges would make it worse I think
 

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Player challenge systems don't work, they become a lottery and a skill to when to use it and it defeats the purpose of having reviews at all.
Technology is supposed to be there to get the correct decision. Cricket stuffed it up by having soft calls and player challengers.
Either remove it totally and just go back to the umpires or let the third umpire decide with no influence at all from soft calls.
 

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So are they admitting they don't review every goal or are we supposed to think that if the captains call for the review that the AFL/ARC/ALF won't make the wrong decision like they have previously?


Oh wait, it's so that if they miss one, it's the captain who gets blamed on Monday.
 

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What's the point in having a new way of calling for a review when the system of review is already shown to be getting decisions incorrect?
Honestly I think it's to divert conversation from "the system sucks" to "oooo, that wasted review could cost them! Why did Captain X call for that?". The AFL would rather have their players criticised and publically dissected than themselves.
 

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Having a review system won’t change the fact that an incompetent tit will end up making an incorrect decision on it despite what the camera shows him.
 

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they had to find some way of stopping there being so many reviews. the way the game is headed channel 7 can't present the news on the 6 o'clock dot with all these pesky reviews. that's the best way to fix all the incorrect reviews... ignore them.
who knows, we might even score some sponsorship dollar on the big screen while it happens.
 

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The problem with the review is the poor quality of the camera's and the poor decision making of the reviewers.

The system is fine, the cricket style challenges would make it worse I think
Yes, but this is considerably cheaper and channel 7 can go to an ad break while reviews are underway.
 

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It’s pretty obvious this is a blame shifting exercise. They know that this is worse than the current system but knowing they are too incompetent to make correct decisions, they’ll put the onus on the clubs to make the challenge and that way its the clubs fault for not challenging and not the fault of the review center for ******* up again. Genius.

Love how the article suggests that the Thomas PF goal would’ve been overturned with this system because they’d have had more time. It took one second to see that that ball was touched.

All this is going to end up doing is allowing more incorrect decisions that should’ve been reversed on replay. Don’t understand how every sporting organisation is having so much trouble with decision reviews. They just overthink and overcomplicate everything in what should be a pretty simple process. EPL have made an absolute mockery of their VAR use.
 

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