AFL depth charts

[whelan=legend]

Dee fans: what about Petterd's role next year? Will he play off halfback?

I think he will be an outside mid that will push back.

 

[Animosity1989]

Great job on the hawks however, Jarryd Morton is kind of a utility but definetly not a key forward

 

[blues4flag]

It's ordered in terms of most likely, right?

If so, I'd have small defenders as:

Grigg
Browne
Armfield
Anderson
Pfeiffer
Benjamin

You've got Pfeiffer too high, Browne too low.

 

[m0nty]

It's ordered in terms of most likely, right?

If so, I'd have small defenders as:

Grigg
Browne
Armfield
Anderson
Pfeiffer
Benjamin

You've got Pfeiffer too high, Browne too low.

That's pretty harsh on Pfeiffer, are you sure the Carlton heirarchy share your views?

 

[Juddbemetron]

That's pretty harsh on Pfeiffer, are you sure the Carlton heirarchy share your views?

i agree brown should be 2nd
but i reckon pfeifer should be on top of anderson

 

[m0nty]

i agree brown should be 2nd
but i reckon pfeifer should be on top of anderson

That sounds better, thanks.

 

[Jono B]

For Essendon:

Slattery is probably our No. 1 small defender. McVeigh would probably slot in there too considering he played most of his years under sheedy there.

Welsh is our No. 1 Tagger.

McPhee is more a Key forward and Chartres is delisted

Ryder is a backup ruck probably ahead of Bellchambers at the moment (depends on how our other defenders are going if we can cover Ryder down back).

Jarrod Atkinson is not a key back but a small defender more likely. Dean Dick is delisted

McVeigh is probably more an inside mid then one like Houli. Reimers also runs through the midfield (outside and inside but more outside)

Jay Nash also plays in defense (wouldn't actually call him a defender though..)

I would agree with a lot of the changes. But I will sum things up:

Houli (1.4 contested possesions per game) and Prismall (1.3) should be moved to the outside midfielder position with McVeigh (2.7) being moved to the inside midfielder role.

Ryder would probably be 4th in the rucks because we would not move him unless there was no other option.

Hocking would probably be 2nd in line to tag as he did play shut down roles on Cooney/Griffen towards the end of the season. Slattery has done this role in the past but we would be unlikely to remove him from defence.

Dempsey played off the half back line in his 10 quarters this year.

Myers is also an outside midfield option.

But it was great work anyway.

 

[blues4flag]

That's pretty harsh on Pfeiffer, are you sure the Carlton heirarchy share your views?

Didn't do much at all in the Carlton side and the week he kicked a vital goal, he was dropped and didn't get another game till round 22 against the Hawks.

To put it into perspective, not a single poster on the Carlton board sees him in our first 25. Browne would be right around the mark, about 21-22nd, Armfield the same.

Anderson's a tough one. Played the last two games and did decently, though would find it hard to get a game ATM if no injuries.

Pfeiffer played further up the ground, not in defence. Unfortunately, his disposal is horrid and doesn't get much of the ball. Would want to improve significantly in 09 or he could find himself out of a job.

 

[whelan=legend]

Probably getting picky here but:

Green above Bruce
Grimes above Valenti
Maric above Wonaeamirri
Petterd above Dunn/ Bartram
Whelan above Wheatley
Buckley above Wheatley (Wheatley is overrated)
Chris Johnson above Bell


And also Zomer is a key forward.

 

[m0nty]

Ryder is your 10-year CHB/FB so that's where he's listed. I'm a bit iffy on a lot of the tagging and other roles given to the Bomber youngsters this year because of the crazy injury list causing forced selections. Who knows where Myers will be played in 09? Hard to tell IMO.

 

[m0nty]

Probably getting picky here but:

Green above Bruce
Grimes above Valenti
Maric above Wonaeamirri
Petterd above Dunn/ Bartram
Whelan above Wheatley
Buckley above Wheatley (Wheatley is overrated)
Chris Johnson above Bell


And also Zomer is a key forward.

Surely Wheatley, Valenti and Wona have had good enough years to remain ahead? The other changes are made.

 

[DonMania#5]

Houli is more of an outside mid than inside. Riemers is also a outside mid, not a small forward.

 

[fishguts]

Ryder is your 10-year CHB/FB so that's where he's listed. I'm a bit iffy on a lot of the tagging and other roles given to the Bomber youngsters this year because of the crazy injury list causing forced selections. Who knows where Myers will be played in 09? Hard to tell IMO.

Myers Played most of the year playing hbf with stints in the middle. And Knights has stated that he was drafted as a midfielder and not a defender.

 

[whelan=legend]

Grimes above Valenti and Maric above Wona I would take issue with. Surely Valenti and Wona have had good enough years to remain ahead of those two? The other changes are made.

I think Grimes will definately be given priority over Valenti. Grimes was pick 14 last year while Valenti was taken mid-rookie draft. The only reason Grimes only played one game this year was because of his lingering back injury, and i'm certain if Bailey had the choice of who to play round 1 next year it would be Grimes over Valenti.

Maric over Wonaeamirri is line ball ATM, but i beleive Maric will be given higher priority over Wona.

Not to mention Wona and Valenti are still both on the rookie list, and i'm not sure if both will be elevated onto the senior list before next season.

With your edited post (Wheatley), Buckley and Whelan would definately be ahead of him. Wheatley couldn't hit the side of a barn door and is very overrated, his B&F finishing position reflects that. Either way, Buckley is definately ahead of Bell and Chris Johnson.

 

[The Cotch]

Nice effort Monty.

For Richmond the changes I'd make would be......

Deledio to the outside midfielders
Edwards is more outside as well
Jackson is definitely an inside midfielder and also a tagger
White isnt a tagger

and thats about it.

 

[fishguts]

Houli is more of an outside mid than inside. Riemers is also a outside mid, not a small forward.

Agreed, though he is very capable of being an inside mid (Adelaide at Aami)

 

[Jono B]

Ryder is your 10-year CHB/FB so that's where he's listed. I'm a bit iffy on a lot of the tagging and other roles given to the Bomber youngsters this year because of the crazy injury list causing forced selections. Who knows where Myers will be played in 09? Hard to tell IMO.

Yeah I am not too critical on the Ryder or tagging issues.

The main issue I have is McVeigh being placed on the outside midfielder list when he doubled Houli and Prismall in the the key clearance stats.

Myers started in the centre square multiple times during the season and Reimers did the same on the wing but they are only minor issues.

 

[m0nty]

Alright, I made all changes, apart from Wona who I think is still ahead of Maric.

 

[estibador]

yeah, i reckon that the freo list looks pretty good now, good job

There's a few other changes I'd suggest.

Firstly delete Josh Carr and Ryley Dunn. Dunn has been delisted and Carr has walked out on the club.

Schammer is more of an inside than outside midfielder while Hinkley is more outside than inside. Thornton never tags except occasionally playing as a defensive forward on a rebounding backman. Smith is being groomed as a tagger in the WAFL and Headland is easily our best outside midfielder.

So the changes I'd make (taking into account that you don't seem to mind players being in more than one category) are:

Inside Mids
Hase
Palmer
Schammer
Foster

Outside Mids
Headland
Ibbo
Mundy
Crowley
Hinkley
Peake
Browne

Taggers
Crowley
Dodd
Smith

You also don't seem to have Solly anywhere - though he's pretty hard to place into a category because he's sort of an all purpose utility.

 

[Speck]

Anyone noticed who's in the inside mids for the Saints? I was pissing myself. Better check m0nty .

McQualter you would class as a tagger I'd think (he tags himself out of the game though).

 

[m0nty]

I thought Solomon had retired! I left him as a small forward, as Champion has him. All other changes made (though taggers are the only ones who get named twice).

 

[Wolfmother2]

Surely Wheatley, Valenti and Wona have had good enough years to remain ahead? The other changes are made.

Great list Monty and now it gets down to personnal opinion....

I think Grimes will move up but Wheatley and Bell are both preferred over C. Johnson but this may change next season....

Wona is ahead of Maric and they play a different role.... Maric is told to push up the ground whilst Wona is a stay at home fwd.

The rucks should change as Jamar is the number one ruckman whilst Johnson is his number two who pushes fwd....

 

[pazza]

Good effort that.

 

[m0nty]

Great list Monty and now it gets down to personnal opinion....

I think Grimes will move up but Wheatley and Bell are both preferred over C. Johnson but this may change next season....

Wona is ahead of Maric and they play a different role.... Maric is told to push up the ground whilst Wona is a stay at home fwd.

The rucks should change as Jamar is the number one ruckman whilst Johnson is his number two who pushes fwd....

I think Bell is easily third in that group, Wolfmother2, but you could make arguments over CAJ and Wheatley. I think CAJ's injuries this year hampered him greatly, so I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Great point about Jamar. I reckon most of the Dees supporters would lean towards Johnson, if only for that inspirational Sherman tackle, whereas the MFC hierarchy would probably lean towards Jamar. It will probably be a 50/50 TOG split anyway and they'll compete to see who gets the majority in the second half (if either do).

 

[Stenglein's a Champ!]

Sam Butler's an outside mid and Ryan Davis is a small defender.

The order of key defenders would cause debate either way so that's a good effort. Just on that, Will Schofield generally plays on the smaller forwards but is about 195cm himself, that may or may not effect where you place him.