AFL depth charts

[m0nty]

Alright, so where do you blokes reckon he will play this year, with the team structure back to normal with a clean injury sheet?

 

[SELFCONFESDAFLNERD]

For Essendon:

Slattery is probably our No. 1 small defender. McVeigh would probably slot in there too considering he played most of his years under sheedy there.

Welsh is our No. 1 Tagger.

McPhee is more a Key forward and Chartres is delisted

Ryder is a backup ruck probably ahead of Bellchambers at the moment (depends on how our other defenders are going if we can cover Ryder down back).

Jarrod Atkinson is not a key back but a small defender more likely. Dean Dick is delisted

McVeigh is probably more an inside mid then one like Houli. Reimers also runs through the midfield (outside and inside but more outside)

Jay Nash also plays in defense (wouldn't actually call him a defender though..)

dean dick and danny chartres were rookie listed, not delisted.

Anyway, good job M0nty

 

[Quinz]

Great effort m0nty, well done.

A few minor changes I would make from the Eagles but mostly just my own opinion on certain players, yours is very well done.

 

[Jono B]

Alright, so where do you blokes reckon he will play this year, with the team structure back to normal with a clean injury sheet?

Tagger/Inside mid.

He has played his best footy there IMO. Shut down quite a few good midfielders as well as getting the footy himself.

Monfries really took over the role of defencive forward so I don't think he will play there.

There is a gap down back but it is very unlikely that we would sacrifice we would sacrifice a tagger that can work both ways.

 

[alfiiee]

Brodie Holland was delisted.

 

[m0nty]

Okay, you've convinced me on Welsh. I slotted him in as #3 inside mid, in front of the two younger players in Prismall and Houli.

 

[Ogrebait]

Fantastic work m0nty. Just a few points on Fremantle's list.

The small def/fwd category is for defenders and forwards who don't play key position. They might still be tall, but if they play HBF then they're small defenders for the purposes of this list.

Mundy is not a key defender. Either outside mid or "sml" defender. He might be listed as one by Champion but he never takes a key forward. He's played the majority of his career on the HBF but spent the last part of the year shining in a midfield role and I think this is where his future will lie.

Head would be better suited in the "sml" defender catergory too.

What estibador had in his post is pretty much on the money except I'd disagree with him re: Headland.

Smith is being groomed as a tagger in the WAFL and Headland is easily our best outside midfielder.

Yes he is our best outside mid but other players have overtaken him in terms of output, consistency and probably coaches' belief to get the job done. (His knee problems count against him greatly - I'm not sure how injuries are factored into your equations.)

Smith would come under the classification of outside mid too. Not forward. If you need more than two players in each category than Browne would be a better fit. If Browne does maintain a place on next year's list he will more likely be competing for a spot in the forward half.

Ibbotson, like Mundy, could be an outside mid also. They might actually interchange throughout the year. Same with Duffield. (I'm not sure if that helps you much.)

In conclusion...

Small Defenders
Hayden
Mundy
Ibbotson
Dodd
Thornton
Duffield
Head
O'Brien
Pratt

Outside Mids
Crowley
Mundy
Ibbotson
Headland
Hinkley
Duffield
Peake
Browne
Smith

Small Forwards
Mayne
Solomon
Browne

I've included Mundy, Ibbotson, Duffield and Browne twice just so you can get an idea of how I would rate them in each category. Where you rate them I'll leave to you.

 

[Jono B]

Okay, you've convinced me on Welsh. I slotted him in as #3 inside mid, in front of the two younger players in Prismall and Houli.

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Prismall is an interesting one as he was not used as an inside mid at Geelong IMO. But with their midfield he was not needed there. He might play that role at Essendon so he is fine where you put him.

Houli is an outside mid. Early in the season when he played we lost McVeigh and Lonergan to injury. On top of this Welsh was playing forward. If Houli was going to be used in an inside role he would have been used then. But wasn't as reflected by the inside midfielder stats http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007048.

 

[Hawkamania!]

I've had a lash at doing American-style depth charts for the AFL. The depth chart is a list of players for each real team sorted by position, and then sorted again by likelihood of playing in the next game. The reason behind doing it for the AFL is that it's handy to be able to look at who each draftee, rookie and fringe player has to beat out to get a spot in their team's 22.

I don't pretend to know the status of each and every player, so I'd like some help, particularly from fans of each team.

Adelaide depth chart
Brisbane depth chart
Carlton depth chart
Collingwood depth chart
Essendon depth chart
Fremantle depth chart
Geelong depth chart
Hawthorn depth chart
Kangaroos depth chart
Melbourne depth chart
Port Adelaide depth chart
Richmond depth chart
Sydney depth chart
St Kilda depth chart
Western Bulldogs depth chart
West Coast depth chart

I would appreciate any assistance!

Fantastic effort.

Here is my take on Hawthorn's depth chart. I have renamed the key forward/defender lists as tall instead.

Tall defenders
Trent Croad
Stephen Gilham
Grant Birchall
Thomas Murphy
Zac Dawson
Matt Suckling
Hugh Sandilands

Small Defenders
Luke Hodge
Campbell Brown
Brent Guerra
Rick Ladson
Xavier Ellis
Matt Suckling

Tall Forwards
Lance Franklin
Jarryd Roughead
Jarryd Morton
Beau Dowler
Tim Boyle
Mitch Thorp

Small Forwards
Mark Williams
Cyril Rioli
Michael Osborne
Stuart Dew
Cameron Stokes

Inside Midfielders
Sam Mitchell
Brad Sewell
Jordan Lewis
Ben McGlynn
Josh P. Kennedy
Beau Muston
Garry Moss

Outside Midfielders
Chance Bateman
Clinton Young
Shane Crawford
Travis Tuck
Tim Clarke
Brendan Whitecross
Alex Grima

Rucks
Robert Campbell
Brent Renouf
Simon Taylor
Max Bailey
Luke McEntee
Tim Walsh

Taggers
Brad Sewell
Michael Osborne
Rick Ladson
Tim Clarke
Chance Bateman
Xavier Ellis

 

[Elder van Berlo]

For the Crows, I would say that:

- Vince is an outside mid
- Douglas is a small forward
- Mackay is an outside mid
- Curnow is an inside mid
- Armstrong is a small defender
- Douglas is not a tagger.

In terms of order, it is pretty much on the money except:

- I assume Hentschel is bottom of key forwards because of his injury. In which case, Burton has to join him. Or Hentschel has to go up above Tippett. Depending on whether long term injury automatically relegates you to bottom of the list or not.

- Edwards should be top of outside mids. Miles ahead of Reilly and Knights.

 

[NTRabbit]

For the Crows, I would say that:

- Vince is an outside mid
- Douglas is a small forward
- Mackay is an outside mid
- Curnow is an inside mid
- Armstrong is a small defender
- Douglas is not a tagger.

In terms of order, it is pretty much on the money except:

- I assume Hentschel is bottom of key forwards because of his injury. In which case, Burton has to join him. Or Hentschel has to go up above Tippett. Depending on whether long term injury automatically relegates you to bottom of the list or not.

- Edwards should be top of outside mids. Miles ahead of Reilly and Knights.

Additionally;

Richard Douglas should be top of the small forwards, with Jericho behind, followed by Jacky.

Campbell and Gallman should be added to the bottom of the taggers list.

Porplyzia is also an inside mid, just played small forward all year after his shoulder was shagged in round 3

Have you considered adding a utility category? Quite a few teams have them these days, and Stevens and Moran would sit in that category for the Crows. Either that, or double list Stevens as key forward and key defender, Moran as ruck and key defender, and Tippett as Key forward and ruck.

Still no announcements yet, but we're all expecting Luke Jericho and Bryce Campbell to be delisted as well.

 

[m0nty]

A utility category would just confuse things. There isn't a "utility" position in the AFL, that's a bit of a crutch by Champion in not making a decision on what a player's primary role is really going to be.

I'm getting confused signals now on Adelaide. I've already changed their rankings multiple times. When in doubt I'm sticking to the Champion designations.

 

[Ogrebait]

Have you thought of starting a thread in each club's board? Here you're likely to be influenced by just a couple of people's opinion/interpretation. If you were to pose the question on a club board, I'm sure you would have a (collectively) broader response from a varied demographic. There may be some argument and confusion but the fans would generally form a consensus.

 

[Ogrebait]

Just noticed that you don't have Brent Staker for West Coast. I'm not sure what category he'd come under but I think he'd be likely to have a run with role before McGinnity.

 

[m0nty]

Fixed, thanks Ogrebait.

I didn't want to spam club boards.

 

[NTRabbit]

A utility category would just confuse things. There isn't a "utility" position in the AFL, that's a bit of a crutch by Champion in not making a decision on what a player's primary role is really going to be.

I'm getting confused signals now on Adelaide. I've already changed their rankings multiple times. When in doubt I'm sticking to the Champion designations.

Well forget the utility stuff, but the rest of the things we both said are mostly accurate, except Mackay is definitely an inside mid.

Douglas was forward pocket in every game he played this year and is small forward #1 and has never played as a tagger, Porplyzia inside mid, Vince outside mid, key forward list should be in this order for most likely to play, pending sudden form reversals or new injuries of course:

Gill (will play every game)
Tippett (should play every game)
Hentschel (should play half the season)
Walker (should get a handful of games)
Sellar (unlikely to get many games)
Burton (out until at least round 15 with ACL)

 

[goodie23]

Just one more change to suggest, Matt Maguire should be at the bottom of the Saints key defenders, he's barely played any football over the last two years due to a broken leg and complications

 

[NTRabbit]

Massie, Jericho and Campbell were all delisted from the Crows today, probably want to remove them

 

[TheMase]

Sydney:
#2.

Missed a few players for us too.

Matthew Laidlaw: Outside Mid
Tim Schmidt: Inside Mid
Kirstin Thornton: Outside Mid

 

[SM]

And you've got Shaw twice. We only traded for him once.

 

[LemmingMaster]

You have Nick Stevens as an insider midfielder, that is almost like an oxymoron!

 

[XztatiK]

NTRabbit you have no idea mate.

Douglas did plenty of tagging last year, albeit on running defenders rather than mids.

Agree with you on Vince though - DEFINITELY an outside mid.

Also surprised that no one has questioned Dangerfield's placement as an inside mid. imo that is the most ridiculous placement of the whole lot. Can be forgiven of course considering his games tally of 2 but you shoud certainly change that one m0nty.

 

[m0nty]

Done, XztatiK.

 

[OzBomber]

Any chance we can get a goals category?

 

[m0nty]

Any chance we can get a goals category?

I don't understand the question. Are we still talking about depth charts?