Roast AFL Draft and Equalisation Polices collectively are an embarrassing disgrace.

[.Shotties.]

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I think Sydney and GWS are being force fed picks but the AFL cant stop fiddling with them so it's hard to make use of them.

Sorry, what?

The AFL has expanded to league past the supply capacity if our country, and made access to that supply incredibly skewed to 2 NSW clubs.

Again, what? Can you do some numbers to show how the supply is incredibly skewed to Sydney?

 

[kaiserchief13]

Discounts and live bids are a bit of a gag really.

Just extend draft night trades to include players already selected. Would make the draft go longer but anyone who watches the draft needs to get out more.

WC reportedly rejected picks 6 and 11 (possibly a future pick also) for pick 1 in 2023. That ended up being Windsor at 7 and Tholstrup at 13. Do we take those 2 over Reid? No. I don't know what our draft board looked like other than Reid 1, but maybe we were really keen on players that slid.

Say for example we really wanted Curtin and Darcy Wilson:

WC: pick Reid, expecting Curtin to go top 5
Melb: pick Curtin (7) and Tholstrup (13)
St Kilda: pick Wilson (18) and Collard (28)

Melbourne agree to trade Tholstrup to the Saints for Wilson and Collard and a future pick. We then trade Reid for the three players. Same end result as a 3 way pick swap, but with the selections already locked in. Alternatively with the draft order as is we get on the phone to the Saints and them to do what they have to do to get Curtin and we'll trade with them. Etc.

As it stands, Reid was only open to the team who had pick 1 and pick 1 is only available for trade to the highest bidder if they are willing to part with it. The first bid player was pick 3 who wasn't really available to anyone except Gold Coast. What is so bad about North picking him at 3 and then Gold Coast having to satisfy North if they really want him? If someone is pick 3 and the best you have is 20 you don't deserve to get them.

You do if your dad played for them or you live in nsw or qld.....

 

[Obeanie1]

Yes they do. Fred Bassett from St Kilda is on record from a matter of weeks ago calling for their abolishment. Eddie routinely called for their abolishment when he was president. They want them gone not changed.

They want teams to pay market rates.

There is no reason academies need to abolished.

They DO want the NT zones access abolished. Not the Qld based academies.

Academies need to be grown for the benefit of the competition as a whole. Not just a select few clubs in "zones" the AFL is chasing increased TV ratings and $$$$$.

 

[Dewy006]

The compromised nature of the draft is the biggest issue Greg Swann needs to fix imo. The fact that the first round will likely extend out to 30 picks is frankly embarrassing for the AFL.

At its Core, the Draft is the leagues biggest equalisation measure, and the fact the worst teams don’t have unimpeded access to the best talent is defeating the whole purpose of the draft.

I actually agree with Ross Lyons “Pure” first round idea. The first round should be 18 picks (19 when TAS are in). No academy, no Father Son, no FA Compo, no priority picks. 2nd round on if they want to bring in some form of matching mechanism for academy and FS then fine. But keep the 1st round clean.

 

[Elixuh]

The compromised nature of the draft is the biggest issue Greg Swann needs to fix imo. The fact that the first round will likely extend out to 30 picks is frankly embarrassing for the AFL.

At its Core, the Draft is the leagues biggest equalisation measure, and the fact the worst teams don’t have unimpeded access to the best talent is defeating the whole purpose of the draft.

I actually agree with Ross Lyons “Pure” first round idea. The first round should be 18 picks (19 when TAS are in). No academy, no Father Son, no FA Compo, no priority picks. 2nd round on if they want to bring in some form of matching mechanism for academy and FS then fine. But keep the 1st round clean.

From a Brisbane Lions perspective I’m happy with no matching it would just mean the AFL needs to fund our academy. Or if a club takes an academy player there is some kind of financial amount the club has to pay to the Lions for taking that player which is then put towards running the academy.

I wouldn’t hold your breath on Greg Swann, who has just spent 10yrs at Brisbane and understands the issues, making substantive changes of the kind requested by people in these threads.

 

[Rotayjay]

The zones era brought about a period where only a select few clubs could win VFL premierships. Now the AFL has effectively brought back zones and - surprise surprise - a select few clubs are thereabouts every year.

A relatively uncompromised draft worked for equalisation, and what did the geniuses at AFL House do? They got rid of it, replaced with this bastardised version.