AFL Evolution player ratings discussion thread

[FearTheBeard13]

AFL Evolution- Western Bulldogs Player Ratings

Is the premiership skipper worthy of an 85? What about Cloke, T.Boyd and Hunter? Also I found the Package difficult to rate.

Western Bulldogs

Marcus Bontempelli- 89

Matthew Boyd- 88

Robert Murphy- 87

Dale Morris- 86

Tom Liberatore- 86

Easton Wood- 85

Jake Stringer- 85

Travis Cloke- 84

Liam Picken- 84

Mitch Wallis- 83

Luke Dalhaus- 83

Jason Johannisen- 82

Tory Dickson- 82

Matt Suckling- 81

Stewart Crameri- 81

Jack Macrae- 81

Caleb Daniel- 80

Tom Boyd- 80

Marcus Adams- 80

Jordan Roughead- 79

Lachie Hunter- 79

Lin Jong- 77

Jack Redpath- 76

Clay Smith- 75

Shane Biggs- 74

Tom Campbell- 74

Kieran Collins- 73

Josh Dunkley- 72

Toby Mclean- 71

Fletcher Roberts- 71

Zaine Cordy- 69

Mitch Honeychurch- 68

Timothy English- 68

Lukas Webb- 68

Declan Hamilton- 67

Bailey Dale- 66

Josh Pruden- 65

Roarke Smith- 65

Bailey Williams- 63

Brad Lynch- 62

Patrick Lipinski- 61

Lewis Young- 60

Fergus Greene- 58

Nathan Mullenger-McHugh- 57

Tristan Tweedie- 56

Crameri ABOVE Boyd? A Norm Smith Medalist below Cloke? Picken should also be higher, definitely higher than Stringer.

 

[scaryness]

Here are some arbitrary OVR predictions for Sydney, without knowing anything about what attributes are being rated.

Josh Kennedy (92)
Lance Franklin (92)
Dan Hannebery (91)
----------------------------
Heath Grundy (89)
Dane Rampe (88)
Luke Parker (88)
Isaac Heeney (85)
Nick Smith (85)
Kurt Tippett (84)
Callum Mills (82)
Kieren Jack (81)
----------------------------
Aliir Aliir (78)
Jarrad McVeigh (77)
Sam Naismith (77)
Zak Jones (76)
Sam Reid (76)
Tom Papley (76)
Jake Lloyd (76)
Jeremy Laidler (75)
Gary Rohan (75)
George Hewett (75)
Alex Johnson (74)
Dean Towers (74)
Harry Cunningham (73)
Callum Sinclair (73)
Harrison Marsh (73)
Will Hayward (72)
Daniel Robinson (72)
Michael Talia (72)
Oliver Florent (71)
Colin O'Riordan (71)
James Rose (70)
Nic Newman (70)
----------------------------
Jordan Dawson (69)
Jordan Foote (68)
Tyrone Leonardis (68)
Brandon Jack (67)
Sam Murray (66)
----------------------------
Darcy Cameron (??)
Shaun Edwards (??)
Jack Maibaum (??)
Ben Ronke (??)
Robbie Fox (??)
Lewis Melican (??)
Sam Fisher (??)
Toby Pink (??)

 

[GOTHELIONS16]

Here are some arbitrary OVR predictions for Sydney, without knowing anything about what attributes are being rated.

Josh Kennedy (92)
Lance Franklin (92)
Dan Hannebery (91)
----------------------------
Heath Grundy (89)
Dane Rampe (88)
Luke Parker (88)
Isaac Heeney (85)
Nick Smith (85)
Kurt Tippett (84)
Callum Mills (82)
Kieren Jack (81)
----------------------------
Aliir Aliir (78)
Jarrad McVeigh (77)
Sam Naismith (77)
Zak Jones (76)
Sam Reid (76)
Tom Papley (76)
Jake Lloyd (76)
Jeremy Laidler (75)
Gary Rohan (75)
George Hewett (75)
Alex Johnson (74)
Dean Towers (74)
Harry Cunningham (73)
Callum Sinclair (73)
Harrison Marsh (73)
Will Hayward (72)
Daniel Robinson (72)
Michael Talia (72)
Oliver Florent (71)
Colin O'Riordan (71)
James Rose (70)
Nic Newman (70)
----------------------------
Jordan Dawson (69)
Jordan Foote (68)
Tyrone Leonardis (68)
Brandon Jack (67)
Sam Murray (66)
----------------------------
Darcy Cameron (??)
Shaun Edwards (??)
Jack Maibaum (??)
Ben Ronke (??)
Robbie Fox (??)
Lewis Melican (??)
Sam Fisher (??)
Toby Pink (??)

I am sorry but what you've posted makes things very confusing. These are the sort of ridiculous ratings I've been talking about and am trying to avoid.
Rampe is way lower than an 88,
Heath Grundy is not an 89
Mills is not better than Jack yet, potential is different to current ability.
McVeigh is better than Naismith
Rohan is higher then a 75
Heeney is not an 85, he is a young player still building.
An then also your no names such as Murray, Dawson, Newman, O'Riordan, Hayward and Leonardis are all way too high.

There is no point posting completely different player ratings. The aim of this thread is to work together on the current ratings I have posted to get them right. I will be sorting all the players on excel by team and position with their current ratings to make tweaking them around a bit easier.

 

[FearTheBeard13]

I'd argue Isaac Heeney COULD be an 83-85 but not any higher. He's got all the tangibles to be a superstar but isn't there just yet. I'd sit him on 83 if it was my decision.

 

[GOTHELIONS16]

I'd argue Isaac Heeney COULD be an 83-85 but not any higher. He's got all the tangibles to be a superstar but isn't there just yet. I'd sit him on 83 if it was my decision.

Thanks. Well I've got him at 82 for now which is basically an 83. By the end of the preseason he will probably be 83

 

[JT_the_Man]

I am sorry but what you've posted makes things very confusing. These are the sort of ridiculous ratings I've been talking about and am trying to avoid.
Rampe is way lower than an 88,
Heath Grundy is not an 89
Mills is not better than Jack yet, potential is different to current ability.
McVeigh is better than Naismith
Rohan is higher then a 75
Heeney is not an 85, he is a young player still building.
An then also your no names such as Murray, Dawson, Newman, O'Riordan, Hayward and Leonardis are all way too high.

There is no point posting completely different player ratings. The aim of this thread is to work together on the current ratings I have posted to get them right. I will be sorting all the players on excel by team and position with their current ratings to make tweaking them around a bit easier.

While he did do his ratings differently...

Some of those players aren't "no names." I think Will Hayward will turn out to be one of the better players from this draft.

 

[Amigo]

Eddie Betts being rated 91 is not ridiculous considering he scored 75 goals as a forward pocket this year, not to mention his freakish goal scoring ability.

You can have freakish goalscoring ability without an overall that reflects being elite in nearly every area of the game. Again, I don't know the formulas or the individual statistics, but Betts is a player who seems like he should be one of the best small forwards, not someone with an overall higher than Sam Mitchell, who's better than him in just about every area outside of pace and goalscoring ability.

 

[scaryness]

I am sorry but what you've posted makes things very confusing. These are the sort of ridiculous ratings I've been talking about and am trying to avoid.
Rampe is way lower than an 88,
Heath Grundy is not an 89
Mills is not better than Jack yet, potential is different to current ability.
McVeigh is better than Naismith
Rohan is higher then a 75
Heeney is not an 85, he is a young player still building.
An then also your no names such as Murray, Dawson, Newman, O'Riordan, Hayward and Leonardis are all way too high.

There is no point posting completely different player ratings. The aim of this thread is to work together on the current ratings I have posted to get them right. I will be sorting all the players on excel by team and position with their current ratings to make tweaking them around a bit easier.

Sorry, I didn't realise this was all about you.

 

[Skunk28]

I am sorry but what you've posted makes things very confusing. These are the sort of ridiculous ratings I've been talking about and am trying to avoid.
Rampe is way lower than an 88,
Heath Grundy is not an 89
Mills is not better than Jack yet, potential is different to current ability.
McVeigh is better than Naismith
Rohan is higher then a 75
Heeney is not an 85, he is a young player still building.
An then also your no names such as Murray, Dawson, Newman, O'Riordan, Hayward and Leonardis are all way too high.

There is no point posting completely different player ratings. The aim of this thread is to work together on the current ratings I have posted to get them right. I will be sorting all the players on excel by team and position with their current ratings to make tweaking them around a bit easier.

If you go on The real AFL alliance on face book you will see all club ratings from the start of the year of 2016 and the pre season ratings of 2017 a big difference in players and teams.

 

[bradburygold]

If you go on The real AFL alliance on face book you will see all club ratings from the start of the year of 2016 and the pre season ratings of 2017 a big difference in players and teams.

its a closed group, normally means 1 thing for facebook but ok ill check it out

 

[GOTHELIONS16]

Sorry, I didn't realise this was all about you.

Its not about me its about everyone focusing on the one player list from each team to get it as accurate as possible for wicked witches to see in the end.

 

[RudyBlue]

AFL Evolution- Carlton Player Ratings
I'll do Carlton as well to keep things rolling.

Carlton

Bryce Gibbs- 87

Marc Murphy- 87

Kade Simpson- 86

Sam Docherty- 86

Patrick Cripps- 85

Matthew Kreuzer- 84

Dale Thomas- 82

Jacob Weitering- 79

Matthew Wright- 79

Ed Curnow- 79

Levi Casboult- 77

Alex Silvagni- 76

Rhys Palmer- 76

Liam Jones- 75

Sam Rowe- 74

Sam Kerridge- 74

Denis Armfield- 74

Lachie Plowman- 74

Kristian Jaksch- 73

Billie Smedts- 72

Dylan Buckley- 72

Andrew Phillips- 72

Daniel Gorringe- 71

Jarrod Pickett- 71

Caleb Marchbank- 69

Sam Petrevski-Seton- 70

Nick Graham- 69

Blaine Boekhorst- 69

Liam Sumner- 69

Ciaran Byrne- 69

Simon White- 68

Jed Lamb- 68

Jack Silvagni- 68

Charles Curnow- 68

Harry McKay- 67

Ciaran Sheehan- 67

Tom Williamson- 65

Harrison Macreadie- 65

Pat Kerr- 64

David Polson- 63

Zac Fisher- 61

David Cunningham- 61

Jesse Glass-McCasker- 61

Kym Lebois- 60

Andrew Galluci- 60

Matt Korcheck- 59

Pretty darn good mate, imo you've overrated us a bit though.
Cripps 86 (should be same as ZM, Bont 88-89)
Murphy 85
Kreuzer 78
Thomas 75
Jones 68-70 (poo)
Marchbank 74
Fisher 65
Cuningham 67

 

[GOTHELIONS16]

We have finally reached stage 2 of our AFL Evolution Player Ratings dissection.
Now we will rank players by position. This will make rating the players easier as we are comparing players who are similar. Then in stage 3 we will have 11 player type lists ranked in order from best to worst where we can keep comparing the top player for each type. This will give us the most accurate ratings for all players.

Firstly, for stage 2, all Players have been assigned one of the following positions.

KF- Key Forward >191cm
SF- Small Forward <186cm
MF- Medium Forward >186cm
FWD/MID- Forward Midfielder Forward who rotates into midfield frequently or vice versa
TMID- Tall Mid >187cm
MID- Midfielder <187cm
RUC- Ruckman
DEF/MID- Defender Midfielder Defender who rotates into midfield frequently or vice versa
MD- Medium Defender >187cm
SD- Small Defender <187cm
KD- Key Defender >191cm

I will post the Ruckman shortly, your job is to decide if the ruckman are ordered from best to worst or if changes are needed (expecting them). Ratings are not important for now just the order from best to worst. Final Ratings will be assigned after stage 3 when all player types have been combined to create 1 long list.

 

[GOTHELIONS16]

Here's the ruckman. Your job is to decide if the ruckman are ordered from best to worst or if changes are needed (expecting that to be the case). Ratings are not important for now just the order from best to worst

 

[kangle4]

Naitanui shouldn't be the best ruckman in the game.

 

[bradburygold]

Mad gawn the best ruck by far

Mcevoy/maric too high

 

[FearTheBeard13]

Grundy is better than Kreuzer, Ryder and Stefan Martin. Ceglar should be higher than McEvoy and Gawn and Goldstein should be the top 2 ruckmen.

 

[Thommo333]

Roughead, Ceglar, Hickey and Lobb should be rated higher than McEvoy and Luenberger. Top 5 should be Gawn, Goldstein, Mumford, Grundy and Natanui

 

[Landgraft]

Missed Stanley (who I would have at least as high as Blicz seeing as he can actually kick goals but eh).

 

[JT_the_Man]

Roughead, Ceglar, Hickey and Lobb should be rated higher than McEvoy and Luenberger. Top 5 should be Gawn, Goldstein, Mumford, Grundy and Natanui

Leuenberger should be higher than Hickey imo, but I agree with the rest of what you're saying. I might have Nic Nat ahead of Grundy, but they are very close regardless.

 

[GOTHELIONS16]

Missed Stanley (who I would have at least as high as Blicz seeing as he can actually kick goals but eh).

For this exercise Stanley has been considered a Key Forward.

 

[Landgraft]

For this exercise Stanley and Lobb have been considered Key Forwards.

God, poor Stanley. At least Lobb can hold his own when compared to other keys...

 

[GOTHELIONS16]

What about the ruckman on the lower half of the scale?

 

[JT_the_Man]

Thanks to all your help, here is the updated ruckman list ordered from best to worst. Any more changes needed? Note I added Stanley to the Ruck list.
View attachment 325003

Grundy should be at least equal with Sandilands.

 

[JT_the_Man]

Bellchambers +1 imo