AFL fan in Manchester

Discussion in 'Introductions Board' started by MUFKilda, Oct 8, 2017.

Put it out there
  1. MUFKilda

    MUFKilda Rookie

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    Brand new to the forum and just saying hello. I've enjoyed watching the AFL here in England on BT Sports, and have been getting to grips with the rules slowly but surely, though not yet perfectly! I adopted St Kilda as my team for two reasons: they share the colours of my beloved Manchester United and because, as an underdog, they need the support!

    I really enjoyed last weekend's Grand Final; congratulations to Richmond.

    Hopefully a top eight finish for the Saints next year! Any St Kilda fans here?
     
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  2. lethal03

    lethal03 Club Legend

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    This will provide a history of the game even though its 20yrs old, enjoy.
     
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  3. Bokonon_

    Bokonon_ Never Surrender

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    St kilda board has a few.

    https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forums/st-kilda.22/
     
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  4. MUFKilda

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    Many thanks for that, lethal 03; I shall certainly watch it. The guy there with the Fitzroy sign - they became the Brisbane Lions but have started up in their own right again, yes? South Melbourne became Sydney Swans, and Footscray became the Western Bulldogs. I've garnered a bit of knowledge thus far :)

    Getting there and enjoying learning. I'd rather watch an AFL match than either code of rugby now; it's much more dynamic and the ball skills whilst on the move are exceptional.
     
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  5. Mobbenfuhrer

    Mobbenfuhrer A Large Portion, Yes

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    It's a quagmire taking on the Fitzroy topic :) don't get us started hahaha. Brisbane took the playing licence, Fitzroy remained as an inactive club for a couple years, then became naming sponsor of a VFL team and a VAFA team, and in 2009 merged with the VAFA team to resume as a participating club called Fitzroy. Currently 3rd Grade of VAFA (melbourne amateur comp)

    But if you're in Manchester, you may also be interested in these blokes: http://www.manchesteraussierules.com/
    The Mozzies are fairly inarguably the strongest aussie rules team in the AFLCNE, winning three quarters of the premierships since the competition has been running.

    You might also be chuffed to learn that England just won the Euro Cup in both Mens & Womens divisions yesterday, held at Bordeaux France. Opponents in both cases were Ireland : http://www.afleurope.org/

    Welcome and enjoy!
     
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  6. MUFKilda

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    Mobbenfuhrer,what did the majority of Fitzroy fans do upon the merger with Brisbane - did most transfer their allegiance to Brisbane, or what? Nightmare scenario for supporters; same goes for South Melbourne. And what of the new clubs like Gold Coast and GWS, are they believed to have a long term future?
     
  7. Mobbenfuhrer

    Mobbenfuhrer A Large Portion, Yes

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    Scattered in different directions. Many went to Brissy, many went to other clubs, many went elsewhere. And some came back to Brisbane later.
    I have no idea about GWS and Gold Coast as I don't follow the top tier of footy anymore. I would guess as league-generated entities they will get support if needed.
     
  8. RedV3x

    RedV3x All Australian

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    Obviously the fans of Fitzroy and South Melbourne were upset at losing their team with their name,
    but premierships to both teams helped heal misgivings since a premiership is the holly grail.
    The Sydney Swans have good fan support in Melbourne because they have been very competitive over the years.
    The Brisbane Lions support is not so strong because the Lions have been uncompetitive for a decent while.
    Both the Gold Coast and GWS clubs were seen as long-term projects.
    The Gold coast was seen as an easier startup despite a small population and initially they tracked well.
    Despite huge potential GWS is the harder task and initially GWS tracked poorly due to lack of experienced players.
    So much depends on onfield success.
    IMO GWS were lucky not to get the star they were chasing as they now have a competitive balanced team.
    The Gold Coast's fortunes have rested pretty much with their big star and now they have to rebuild.
     
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  9. Eaglespur

    Eaglespur Club Legend

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    You're in for some long hard years as a Saints supporter :)
     
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  10. Mobbenfuhrer

    Mobbenfuhrer A Large Portion, Yes

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    Slight correction: A premiership is a holy grail to someone who has a football team.
    Elsewise: Having a football team is a holy grail. ;)
     
  11. MUFKilda

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    You could be right there, but I can't be accused of taking the easy option :D. Let's wait and see; where there's life there's hope.
     

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  12. joe444

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    As a Geelong fan (pain: 1964 - 2006, glory 2007 - 2011), I chose Sunderland because Geelong are the Cats.

    You have to stick with the side you choose, because the narrative you then learn matters.

    The ending of the 2009 Grand Final, and the 2010 Grand Final draw, will just break your heart. I'm sorry for 2009. I remember watching the finish in standing room - a grown man collapsed to the ground in agony because St Kilda lost.
     
  13. Eaglespur

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    That is bizarre
     
  14. kreglze

    kreglze Norm Smith Medallist

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    Welcome to the world of early early mornings to watch your team play ;)
     
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  15. Zephiisdaman

    Zephiisdaman Club Legend

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    All 3 clubs have different stories.

    Sth Melbourne relocated to Sydney and after about 3 years of playing as Sth Melbourne out of Sydney they became the Sydney Swans. They have a small SMFC logo on the back of the jumper above the number below the neckline in memory of Sth Melbourne. Sth Melbourne were broke in the days of the VFL and it was the only option to survive. They have had some difficult times in Sydney because of the fickle Sydney crowds but are a fantastically run club now. They have built a good base and have a lot of old Sth Melbourne Melbourne based support.

    Fitzroy were going to merge with Footscray as both clubs were financially disasters but particularly Fitzroy. They ended up merging with the Brisbane Bears to become the Brisbane Lions. The Bears were inept as a franchise and were based on the Gold Coast (where Gold Coast Suns are now). They relocated from the Gold Coast to the Gabba in Brisbane. A good move to a ground with far better facilities.
    The merger created a super team and they played in 4 Grand Finals in a row in the early 2000s winning 3 premierships. Since then they have struggled and have lost a lot of younger players back to there home states. Brisbane struggle to get great crowds being a rugby state but they seem to have a good coach and are getting the administration right. They finished bottom but they showed some promising signs this year. They have a BBFC on the jumper above the number.

    Footscray is a bit different. They looked like merging with Fitzroy but after an amazing fund raising effort where average people donated money just to save them were able to survive in their own right. They changed the name from Footscray to to the Western Bulldogs more to appeal to a lot of newer areas in the burgeoning Western Suburbs of Melbourne. Many would argue if that was good for the club or not. I would say it has been good. They seem to be safe from financial strain now. The 2016 premiership brought a lot of money and joy to long suffering Dogs supporters. The Dogs have a FFC on the jumper above the number. The Western Bulldogs are still based in Footscray and are part of the local community.

    Hope this clears it up a little.
     
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  16. MUFKilda

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    Thanks for that reply, Zephiisdaman; good post. As you say, there is only so much room in Melbourne and a finite number of supporters to go around, which had severe consequences for South and Fitzroy.