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AFL overtaking NRL in QLD
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A bit like talking about going down a rabbit hole instead of making sense.
Can you show me publications where afl is overtaking in Queensland. Know its a anecdote but couple months ago looking for footy boots so went to 3 different Rebel sports amount of nrl gear i sae compared to afl gear was 4:1. NRL is most watched sport so think they doing ok. Infact look what Goyder and Dillion has done compared to PVL night and day really.
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Yes.
I don’t think anyone is seriously saying ‘AFL is overtaking NRL’. At the same time, you would have to be biased or walking around blindfolded if you didn’t concede the AFL have grown substantially and have grown to a new level of ‘foothold’ in the sporting landscape in QLD.
Brisbane is still NRL town but AFL now has strong pockets and areas. The Lions command a presence now that has the NRL concerned and genuinely needing to act. That wasn’t the case a decade ago. The Gold Coast region is undoubtedly a hotly contested market with AFL nearly on level terms.
The landscape has changed substantially the last 10 years… And it has changed substantially the last 3/4 years.
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The question is "overtaking" not "overtaken".
Remember, you're talking about BF here.
where the worst thing you can do is quote AI.
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How long until the AFL overtakes the NRL in New South Wales? I've said previously that AFL is set to surpass the NRL in Queensland within the next decade thanks to a new stadium being on the way plus sustained success of the Lions and Suns, and the NRL should be concerned.
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Never.
Especially when Sydney doesn't even have two teams.
It's not even worth discussing because the date isn't in the foreseeable future. Queensland is a far more realistic option for the AFL when it comes to overtaking the NRL in a local market. The Swans have done really well to carve out a piece of the Sydney sports market for themselves, but to suggest they are even close to equaling/surpassing the total amount of NRL fans in Sydney is laughable. Sydney is going to be rugby league dominated for a very, very long time.
Did you see the Queensland Premier confirm last week that they have plans to upgrade the capacity at Suncorp Stadium to approximately 65,000 and put a roof on it before the 2032 Olympics? That will mean both the NRL and AFL will have access to stadiums with capacities in the 60-65k range. Essentially a dead heat in terms of maximum people that can attend games, but the NRL probably has the slight upper hand with the promise of a roof.
Sustained success in the local market will be a big factor in the battle for Brisbane and the NRL has the upper hand in that regard because there are two teams based in Brisbane so they can more easily cover the decline of one because the other has the opportunity to take their place when that happens. This is where a second AFL team in Brisbane would come in handy for the AFL because the Lions aren't going to be in the top 8 forever.
"Never" is hyperbole.
They said there'd never be an AFL team in Sydney.
They said there'd never be an AFL team in Brisbane..
They said there'd never be two AFL teams in Sydney.
They said there'd never be two AFL teams in Queensalnd.
Queensland football has already overtaken S.A. and is about to overtake W.A. football.
N.S.W. football has already overtaken S.A. and isn't that far behind Queensland.
Now, it's not worth discussing at.t.m. because half the nRL resides in Sydney but it's handy to remember
Cricket died twice before it was resurrected by T20.
It's been amazing just how quickly rugby has become a shadow of it's former self in Australia.
Ever since the formation of the NSL people have been predicting the rise of soccer in Australia.
So never say "never" and that goes for AFL as well. Certain events have decimated Australian Football
and it's not impervious to change either.
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"Never" is realistic.
Who said this exactly?
There probably shouldnt be given the funding thats required to sustain both secondary teams - and the first in queensland.
Auskick is not all its cracked up to be.
Again, Auskick is not all its cracked up to be
Did it? Rumours of its death were greatly exaggerated.
For sure growth is great , 5 years has been excellent . Western corridor should be the target , where population ne growing.most
Feel Gold Coast just rich people go to retire
In SEQ AFL will be like nba in Dallas very popular and strong following however Nfl is the biggest .
and SEQ may be the afl's one and only focus .... regional qld probably doesnt even come in to their calculations (maybe sunshine coast but even thats a stretch - maybe cairns for one-off and/or exhibition gaes)
imho - a changing climate will make qld a difficult challenge over the coming decades for a game as aerobic as afl (brisbane is pushing the boundaries as it is)
[edit] dont get me started on darwin
So you're saying that the NFL will overtake NRL in SEQ ?
Big call, you might be onto something.
few years of gold coast games in darwin behind us now - the data here would tell a very interesting story (including player recovery in the days after)
anecdotal evidence suggests player conditioning has been an issue after each game - is that a sustainable option for a darwin-based side competing in a 23-24 round season (plus finals)
the climate is tracking one way .... im simply joining the dots
so playing at night isn't a solution ? I'm simply, repeating the question that you didn't answer.
i did answer it
every gold coast game in darwin has been a night game - in may .... and player conditioning/recovery has been an issue
is that sustainable over a 23/24 game season (plus finals) - imho no
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And that's without the excess travel a northern team would have.
I am saying most us cities have few codes thriving
So where are the links to this ?
That doesn't seem right at all. What are you trying to say ?
Hoe long? Maybe 100 - 200 years if everything goes well. Realistically never. Same for Queensland. It is like asking how long until the NRL takes over Victoria from the AFL? It is a stupid question.
It's probably not a coincidence that both the Lions and Suns continue to break membership/attendance records year after year while many Victorians move north to Queensland. The demographics are certainly changing with all these Vics getting involved in footy up here and there's a snowball effect occurring because these Vics are encouraging local Queenslanders to get into footy. Times are certainly changing up here!
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