AFL Purchase Etihad Stadium

[shintemaster]

I realise all that.

But the numbers both in membership and revenue don't support that it is a financial negative nor having that effect, but rather a grievance that Melb members (understandably) would rather not put up with, among others of being a member.

You're right on this. I wasn't and am not arguing financial impacts. Simply that in raw numbers I believe it may as well be an accepted truth that more games in Melbourne would = more (Melbourne) supporters / members.

 

[Saintly35]

Regardless of how you spin it Johnny99, it's not a financial/material negative.

If it were we wouldn't be playing there, our admin aren't that stupid. Rather it's very important money that we need.

There's usually a range pros and cons when making big decisions, it's the end result to focus upon.

 

[Johnny99]

Regardless of how you spin it Johnny99, it's not a financial/material negative.

If it were we wouldn't be playing there, our admin aren't that stupid. Rather it's very important money that we need.

There's usually a range pros and cons when making big decisions, it's the end result to focus upon.

This is not a should we play games in Tassie discussion.

It was a discussion about the inequality of home game receipts, that exists between us and other clubs.

And the AFL buying Etihad is an opportunity to eliminate the inequalities.

Question is, will the AFL have the guts to do it ?

 

[Kimbo]

I realise all that.

But the numbers both in membership and revenue don't support that it is a financial negative nor having that effect, but rather a grievance that Melb members (understandably) would rather not put up with, among others of being a member.

How much of an effect is the absence of "cash strapped" as a constant epithet?

 

[Saintly35]

How much of an effect is the absence of "cash strapped" as a constant epithet?

Yes it's interesting how certain people look at the negatives of playing in Tassie, rather than see the bigger picture and/or spin it the other way.

 

[Dirty_11]

Diet Coke OK?

If not I'm stuffed.

I am no expert but a little research will tell you all artificial sweetners are suspect to ones health.

 

[Dirty_11]

Yeah I was really expecting to know a lot more about the effect for our club by now.


Wow. A bit off topic but I totally disagree with this. Sugar is the main cause of the obesity epidemic that has swept the world.

I agree totally and drink neither but if I was to have one say every week I would reach for the sugar ahead of the cancer causing artificial sweetners.

 

[Jay-Z]

I agree totally and drink neither but if I was to have one say every week I would reach for the sugar ahead of the cancer causing artificial sweetners.

Ah ok, I never bought into that cancer causing nonsense. All those "studies" were funded by sugar companies.

 

[Roozee]

I agree totally and drink neither but if I was to have one say every week I would reach for the sugar ahead of the cancer causing artificial sweetners.

If you want to have "one" a week then reach for this bad boy.......

20 teaspoons of sugar (3 times adult maximum for a day)
160mg caffeine
78g sugar



Sweeter than the solemn sounds of cherubs when they strike their golden harps!

You're welcome.

 

[giantroo]

The AFL’s recent purchase of Etihad Stadium will mean a new stadium deal for North Melbourne but the question is when, according to North CEO Carl Dilena.

“We’ll be working on it. The focus will be getting it right from ’18 onwards, and then looking at what adjustments can be made in ’17,” Dilena said on SEN on Wednesday afternoon.

“Everything at the moment is conditional on how much money is left in the pot after the CBA is completed.

“A lot of these things are put on the backburner until they sort through the CBA.”

Any new stadium deal could allow North to grow, as Dilena admitted previous years have sometimes had games which ended with the club writing a cheque to Etihad Stadium.

“It’s always the challenge as a club, there’s not a lot of fat built in to what we do, it’s a pretty lean operation.

“If the AFL can get the stadium deal right at Etihad, it just gives you a little bit of a buffer zone you can deal with and you can invest in the development of the club.

“Over the years, we probably haven’t had that ability. It’s just ‘be as lean as you can’.

North’s biggest home game at Etihad in 2017 will undoubtedly be the inaugural Good Friday clash against the Western Bulldogs.

The game is less than two months away, with preparations gathering momentum.

“There’s been a lot of meetings, a lot of discussions,” Dilena said.

“Particularly working in with the Good Friday Appeal board, which has representatives from Channel 7 and some of the other media outlets as well.

“There’s a whole host of people framing things up, with the lead in to the game, a lot of fundraising activities, supporting things like Run for the Kids.

“Working with the organisers for a bit of entertainment on the day, we’ve organised for Tim Rogers to be involved in a concert afterwards and maybe do some entertainment at the game.”

North and the Bulldogs are working closely together to make the match one to remember.

“Both teams are coming together and really framing up some great content for the day and driving the Appeal.

“On the day itself there’ll be a lot of activation around fundraising and trying to get people on board with the spirit of the occasion and donating to the cause.”

http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2017-02-15/dilena-on-stadium-deal

 

[Arden]

The AFL’s recent purchase of Etihad Stadium will mean a new stadium deal for North Melbourne but the question is when, according to North CEO Carl Dilena.

“We’ll be working on it. The focus will be getting it right from ’18 onwards, and then looking at what adjustments can be made in ’17,” Dilena said on SEN on Wednesday afternoon.

“Everything at the moment is conditional on how much money is left in the pot after the CBA is completed.

“A lot of these things are put on the backburner until they sort through the CBA.”

Any new stadium deal could allow North to grow, as Dilena admitted previous years have sometimes had games which ended with the club writing a cheque to Etihad Stadium.

“It’s always the challenge as a club, there’s not a lot of fat built in to what we do, it’s a pretty lean operation.

“If the AFL can get the stadium deal right at Etihad, it just gives you a little bit of a buffer zone you can deal with and you can invest in the development of the club.

“Over the years, we probably haven’t had that ability. It’s just ‘be as lean as you can’.

North’s biggest home game at Etihad in 2017 will undoubtedly be the inaugural Good Friday clash against the Western Bulldogs.

The game is less than two months away, with preparations gathering momentum.

“There’s been a lot of meetings, a lot of discussions,” Dilena said.

“Particularly working in with the Good Friday Appeal board, which has representatives from Channel 7 and some of the other media outlets as well.

“There’s a whole host of people framing things up, with the lead in to the game, a lot of fundraising activities, supporting things like Run for the Kids.

“Working with the organisers for a bit of entertainment on the day, we’ve organised for Tim Rogers to be involved in a concert afterwards and maybe do some entertainment at the game.”

North and the Bulldogs are working closely together to make the match one to remember.

“Both teams are coming together and really framing up some great content for the day and driving the Appeal.

“On the day itself there’ll be a lot of activation around fundraising and trying to get people on board with the spirit of the occasion and donating to the cause.”

http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2017-02-15/dilena-on-stadium-deal

Cool, so we get ripped off by the actual league we play in this year. That's actually less palatable that getting ripped by Etihad.

 

[Gasometer]

Timmy Roger's post game....yeh i get it....but can't there be someone else additional....or dare I saw new?

 

[Zondor]

Timmy Roger's post game....yeh i get it....but can't there be someone else additional....or dare I saw new?

Exactly. I'd love to see Slayer play Hell Awaits on Good Friday at a North Match. :stern look

 

[Gasometer]

Exactly. I'd love to see Slayer play Hell Awaits on Good Friday at a North Match. :stern look

Was thinking more kid friendly.

Fat Cat.

Humphrey B.

 

[Donkey Chop]

Cool, so we get ripped off by the actual league we play in this year. That's actually less palatable that getting ripped by Etihad.

Can't say I'm surprised.

 

[Rooboys Rool]

Was thinking more kid friendly.

Fat Cat.

Humphrey B.

Fat Cat?! Let's hope not. IIRC he was found to be a little too kid "friendly"...

 

[Firestarter]

Fat Cat?! Let's hope not. IIRC he was found to be a little to kid "friendly"...

How about Cool Cat?






... nyeh nyeh nyeh...

 

[ApplecrossWC]

Timmy Roger's post game....yeh i get it....but can't there be someone else additional....or dare I saw new?

Don't be ungrateful

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Was thinking more kid friendly.

Fat Cat.

Humphrey B.

The Dogs did manage to get Big Bird in last time we played them.

 

[Donkey Chop]

Fat Cat?! Let's hope not. IIRC he was found to be a little to kid "friendly"...

Apparently he came to visit my kinda. There's a photo with him & our class. Oldly I don't remember it at all. Maybe I repressed it

 

[Hazey1977]

Apparently he came to visit my kinda. There's a photo with him & our class. Oldly I don't remember it at all. Maybe I repressed it

Maybe he had his friend Rufie with him for you?

 

[Deep Wells]

Apparently he came to visit my kinda. There's a photo with him & our class. Oldly I don't remember it at all. Maybe I repressed it

I think you might have

 

[giantroo]

We have a fight on our hands:


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...tter-etihad-stadium-deal-20171023-gz6o8p.html

St Kilda, Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne want better Etihad Stadium deal

• Caroline Wilson

Concerned club presidents Peter Gordon, Ben Buckley and Peter Summers could approach the AFL Commission next month to lobby for a better deal for their clubs at Etihad Stadium.

Disappointed at the refusal from head office to compensate the Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne and St Kilda for years of financial inequity dealt to the three co-tenants, the three club bosses who spoke last week are planning a further meeting to push their cause and review whether to take the step of directly intervening in AFL talks.


And Fairfax Media understands the Victorian government, still considering the AFL's plans for a $300 million redevelopment of the stadium and the Docklands precinct, is closely watching the protracted negotiations with the clubs for a better deal as it moves towards an election year.

The Daniel Andrews government is looking at a widespread funding package of stadium revamps in key sports in next year's pre-election state budget but is concerned over how the financially struggling Etihad Stadium clubs will benefit from the new deal. The AFL is close to a deal with anchor tenant Essendon after a protracted year of negotiations but is some way from achieving agreements with the Bulldogs, Kangaroos and Saints.

North Melbourne are one of the clubs taking on the AFL over the deal with Etihad Stadium. Photo: Pat Scala

Hailed as a game-changer for the financially struggling tenant clubs when the AFL purchased the stadium for an estimated $200 million more than a year ago, those clubs fear that undertaking looks far removed from reality.

However AFL chief Gillon McLachlan played down those concerns, confident the clubs would ultimately be satisfied with their new deal. "We'll get there," McLachlan said of the lengthy negotiations. "They [the clubs] will be fine."


McLachlan undertook when the stadium, which the AFL conceded in the government revamp proposal had become "run down", was purchased last October that: "Owning Etihad Stadium enables the AFL to continue to strengthen the financial health of several of our Victorian clubs ...".

However, while all Etihad clubs looked to be more than $1 million better off each year with soon-to-be-reached new stadium contracts, the AFL has threatened to reduce their annual financial subsidies and has told the clubs it will not financially address heavy losses incurred in the past.

Western Bulldogs chairman Peter Gordon has said the three clubs deserved that compensation for the significant monetary disadvantages forced upon them for the first 15 years of the Docklands deal. That view is strongly backed by St Kilda.

The Saints view the historic settlement as part of the overall negotiation of the new Etihad contract. "Everyone including the AFL recognises the previous deal was inequitable to three clubs in particular," said Gordon. "To some extent, this was addressed, at least from 2014, in competitive balance funding formulae. As a matter of fairness, addressing the other years of the inequitable arrangements ought to be considered for the three clubs."

North Melbourne chief Carl Dilena three days ago expressed his disappointment over the AFL's move to strip club funding from central equalisation revenue for the three Etihad co-tenants as part of the new deal.

Dilena likened the AFL's tactic to "giving with one hand and taking away with the other." St Kilda chairman Summers confirmed he was attempting to schedule a meeting with the other presidents before next month.

The Saints' debt of more than $6 million is the largest of the Victorian clubs; the Bulldogs having significantly reduced their debt to less than $2 million with the Kangaroos now debt free. St Kilda deputy CEO Ameet Bains, who had been part of that club's team negotiating with the AFL, will take over as Bulldogs chief executive in December.

 

[Zondor]

We have a fight on our hands:


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...tter-etihad-stadium-deal-20171023-gz6o8p.html

St Kilda, Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne want better Etihad Stadium deal

• Caroline Wilson

Concerned club presidents Peter Gordon, Ben Buckley and Peter Summers could approach the AFL Commission next month to lobby for a better deal for their clubs at Etihad Stadium.

Disappointed at the refusal from head office to compensate the Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne and St Kilda for years of financial inequity dealt to the three co-tenants, the three club bosses who spoke last week are planning a further meeting to push their cause and review whether to take the step of directly intervening in AFL talks.


And Fairfax Media understands the Victorian government, still considering the AFL's plans for a $300 million redevelopment of the stadium and the Docklands precinct, is closely watching the protracted negotiations with the clubs for a better deal as it moves towards an election year.

The Daniel Andrews government is looking at a widespread funding package of stadium revamps in key sports in next year's pre-election state budget but is concerned over how the financially struggling Etihad Stadium clubs will benefit from the new deal. The AFL is close to a deal with anchor tenant Essendon after a protracted year of negotiations but is some way from achieving agreements with the Bulldogs, Kangaroos and Saints.

North Melbourne are one of the clubs taking on the AFL over the deal with Etihad Stadium. Photo: Pat Scala

Hailed as a game-changer for the financially struggling tenant clubs when the AFL purchased the stadium for an estimated $200 million more than a year ago, those clubs fear that undertaking looks far removed from reality.

However AFL chief Gillon McLachlan played down those concerns, confident the clubs would ultimately be satisfied with their new deal. "We'll get there," McLachlan said of the lengthy negotiations. "They [the clubs] will be fine."


McLachlan undertook when the stadium, which the AFL conceded in the government revamp proposal had become "run down", was purchased last October that: "Owning Etihad Stadium enables the AFL to continue to strengthen the financial health of several of our Victorian clubs ...".

However, while all Etihad clubs looked to be more than $1 million better off each year with soon-to-be-reached new stadium contracts, the AFL has threatened to reduce their annual financial subsidies and has told the clubs it will not financially address heavy losses incurred in the past.

Western Bulldogs chairman Peter Gordon has said the three clubs deserved that compensation for the significant monetary disadvantages forced upon them for the first 15 years of the Docklands deal. That view is strongly backed by St Kilda.

The Saints view the historic settlement as part of the overall negotiation of the new Etihad contract. "Everyone including the AFL recognises the previous deal was inequitable to three clubs in particular," said Gordon. "To some extent, this was addressed, at least from 2014, in competitive balance funding formulae. As a matter of fairness, addressing the other years of the inequitable arrangements ought to be considered for the three clubs."

North Melbourne chief Carl Dilena three days ago expressed his disappointment over the AFL's move to strip club funding from central equalisation revenue for the three Etihad co-tenants as part of the new deal.

Dilena likened the AFL's tactic to "giving with one hand and taking away with the other." St Kilda chairman Summers confirmed he was attempting to schedule a meeting with the other presidents before next month.

The Saints' debt of more than $6 million is the largest of the Victorian clubs; the Bulldogs having significantly reduced their debt to less than $2 million with the Kangaroos now debt free. St Kilda deputy CEO Ameet Bains, who had been part of that club's team negotiating with the AFL, will take over as Bulldogs chief executive in December.

So Caro says we are now Debt Free. :stern look

 

[Arden]

I'd imagine the AFL will want to give it a facelift in the not too distant future and that won't come cheap to the tenants.

Wasn't half obvious that was going to happen.

The AFL Commission: appointed by the clubs, for the clubs. Sure thing.