Preview AFL Round 8 - Match Preview Collingwood@Carlton (MCG– 1:45PM)

FireKraquora

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I reckon that'd be misuse of a gorilla. With Stephenson, Degoey and Elliott hitting form last week, will he start on the ground?
Thanks for the logical tip. I had felt that JDG may start centre for a strong start, leaving Will free for an overdue speccy up forward. But now I realise that's unlikely. Decisions...
 

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Bad Horse

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Basically none of us think we can win this. In fact most of the discussion is focussed on how to balance our team out and whether we will respond after last week.

Where do you think de goey lines up most often if Beams is actually out? Does Bucks leave him where he's most terrifying or put him in the middle?

Moore to Mckay and howe to Curnow?
We are probably more optimistic about your chances than your own supporter base. To me this is a classic of the kind of match we have often lost, getting caught playing fiddly football and never establishing our own game until it is too late.

I was hoping De Goey spends more time in the middle proportionally, because I think our centre work needs him more than our forward work, but with Wills in I think we have shown our hand there. Wills is basically no use anywhere but right in the middle.

I think Roughead to Casboult, Moore to McKay, not sure its Howe on Curnow or McGovern.

Good to see another horse themed poster (and a Carlton poster who is good to engage with.) I hope the skyhorses you tame are horses though and not ponies.
 

Malifice

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What is the problem with Murphy? Playing out of position or just poor form?
Form (age).

His game has always been centered around evasiveness, and is more outside than inside. Hes lost that fraction of both bringing him back down to the pack.

His disposal has been poor this year as well.

Still gets 25 odd touches, but is no where near as damaging when in possession anymore.

Still best 22, but not even close to the player he once was.
 

Chrispiesssss

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I have just worked out what a strange supporter I am. Have followed the Pies for decades and when we are doing well, I get anxious about losing but when we are not doing so well, I go to games ever so hopeful.

Just can't seem to find that happy medium.
The Happy medium is when Richmond kept finishing 9th.

Now that’s balance.
 

Malifice

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Welcome to our 2013 - 2017. You will duly be accorded the same level of sympathy we received. Your SFA will be delivered shortly.
When I look at your list in (say) 2015, I still see (Reid, White, Brown, Blair, Young, Goldsack, Sidebottom, Toovey, Varcoe, Pendles, Cloke and Swan) as your 100+ gamers that year.

That's not a bad list of senior players.

Compare that list to our 100+ gamers this year (Simpson, Murphy, Thomas, Jones, Casboult, Kruezer, Ed Curnow, Fasolo). Simpson and Jones are quality (but neither are playing this weekend). Kruezer also (but he's been in and out with injury for years now, and cant get any consistency). The rest are pretty meh.

Anyways, good luck on the weekend. Either way it goes, I hope its a close one.
 

TW Sherrin

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Bolton will revert to type this weekend and play defensive footy. He will coach not to lose by 15 goals.

Wills is a great inclusion. Cripps would've had a birthday against our other mids but Rupert can at least make a contest.

Good to see Mayne come straight back in.
 

jackcass

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When I look at your list in (say) 2015, I still see (Reid, White, Brown, Blair, Young, Goldsack, Sidebottom, Toovey, Varcoe, Pendles, Cloke and Swan) as your 100+ gamers that year.

That's not a bad list of senior players.

Compare that list to our 100+ gamers this year (Simpson, Murphy, Thomas, Jones, Casboult, Kruezer, Ed Curnow, Fasolo). Simpson and Jones are quality (but neither are playing this weekend). Kruezer also (but he's been in and out with injury for years now, and cant get any consistency). The rest are pretty meh.

Anyways, good luck on the weekend. Either way it goes, I hope its a close one.
Yep, they were all on our list. Sadly, all too often they were also in the medical room instead of playing. On the bright side, all the early exposure of the kids could well stand you in good stead in a few years time.

Good luck. While I fear it will be I sincerely hope it's not close, easier on an aging ticker and lowers the level of crap email and texts I'll receive from filth supporters.
 

Malifice

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Melbourne is also alongside Richmond. Can't stand supporters from either team.
I dont even hate you guys that much anymore.

There is a special place in Hell for Essendon and their supporters, and after years of dealing with Adelaides supporters (various trades over this rebuild), they're number two now. Not so much the Crows as a team, but their supporters are dead set bogans. The Richmong guys have become unbearable post their flag win (hopefully they have a **** season, and can go back to tearing each other apart).

Need something to spark the Carlton Collingwood rivalry back up again. Beats me what though.
 

Maggie5

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I dont even hate you guys that much anymore.

There is a special place in Hell for Essendon and their supporters, and after years of dealing with Adelaides supporters (various trades over this rebuild), they're number two now. Not so much the Crows as a team, but their supporters are dead set bogans. The Richmong guys have become unbearable post their flag win (hopefully they have a **** season, and can go back to tearing each other apart).

Need something to spark the Carlton Collingwood rivalry back up again. Beats me what though.
Must admit, I can't go into your banter thread as not only do I have good friends that support Carlton but there are some good Carlton supporters that I enjoy reading their posts. So really no value in trading insults.

Maybe when Carlton becomes more successful we can try again.
 

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Mukesh

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I dont even hate you guys that much anymore.

There is a special place in Hell for Essendon and their supporters, and after years of dealing with Adelaides supporters (various trades over this rebuild), they're number two now. Not so much the Crows as a team, but their supporters are dead set bogans. The Richmong guys have become unbearable post their flag win (hopefully they have a **** season, and can go back to tearing each other apart).

Need something to spark the Carlton Collingwood rivalry back up again. Beats me what though.
How about we beat you by five points in a GF on the back of a dodgy umpiring decision then publicly gloat about it... will that do it for you ?
 

noideaatall

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What I expect from Collingwood 2019, irrespective of history, is a solid win. A clear indication they are the superior team. Smashing them by 15 goals would be desirable but not the bar.
 

TradeDraft

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Bolton will revert to type this weekend and play defensive footy. He will coach not to lose by 15 goals.

Wills is a great inclusion. Cripps would've had a birthday against our other mids but Rupert can at least make a contest.

Good to see Mayne come straight back in.
and We have Struggled when Geelong and West Coast did that against us
 

NonPhixion

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Guys this is the perfect game to unleash De Goey in the middle. There is no better opportunity. We have 2 inside mids out, bringing 1 in who has only played 1 game in 3 seasons. Our team has lacked some hard inside work all season which he provides. Carlton have there 3 best defenders out. Get him in the middle to improve our clearances. Don’t need de Goey’s presence, our other forwards will expose them down back.
 

hellfire

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Guys this is the perfect game to unleash De Goey in the middle. There is no better opportunity. We have 2 inside mids out, bringing 1 in who has only played 1 game in 3 seasons. Our team has lacked some hard inside work all season which he provides. Carlton have there 3 best defenders out. Get him in the middle to improve our clearances. Don’t need de Goey’s presence, our other forwards will expose them down back.
Not sure he has the tank, unfortunately. I’d definitely look to play him in there in the first half to try to break the game open. Then he can play forward in the second half.
 

Hardas

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Guys this is the perfect game to unleash De Goey in the middle. There is no better opportunity. We have 2 inside mids out, bringing 1 in who has only played 1 game in 3 seasons. Our team has lacked some hard inside work all season which he provides. Carlton have there 3 best defenders out. Get him in the middle to improve our clearances. Don’t need de Goey’s presence, our other forwards will expose them down back.
Yep, to JDG going largely mid this week.
Can see them going hard tag on Pendles too so we could do with the boost so we don't leave too much to too few.
 

Thefly38

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We should win this by 70

I think we will win this by 35
 
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