Roast AFL 'round zero' What a load of crap ...

[SC_Power]

So having a look at the fixture if actually played.

The Northern clubs plus Hawks, Cats and Pies were all scheduled to play two games most in plum TV time slots.

All get two games PRIOR to Saint Kilda, Melbourne and the Eagles get their 1st game in the dead Sunday time slots.

That is getting very close to restraint of trade.

Not easy selling memberships when other clubs get double the exposure in prime time before you get a chance to market your club and product with a live game.

A half decent lawyer could seriously embarrass the AFL exposing the fixture as what it is. A marketing tool used to favour a small group of teams at the detriment of the majority of other clubs. For $$$$$$$.

What’s a prime time slot?

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Ban Opening Round and Gather Round

Sure, when the Grand Final is permanently moved out of Victoria and Victorian teams go interstate as often as non-Victorian teams do. The problem is you VFL nuffies want to preserve every advantage Victorian teams have, but eliminate every advantage non-Victorian teams have.

It’s embarrassing. The AFL is the biggest sport in Australia and they have blatantly ripped off NRL’s magic round idea and then completely changed the whole fixture & some how made it unfairer, all because the NRL is in Vegas.

And the NRL ripped it off from the English Super League, who have been doing it for 20 years. Few ideas are original.

 

[Obeanie1]

What’s a prime time slot?

Not Sunday afternoon for starts.

Eagles most weeks get the last Sunday slot. And TBH I havent minded the past three seasons as we have been terrible and at least my weekend is enjoyable.

Eagles can afford crap time slots as they have loyal followers and dont need the exposure to make money. Pity Collingwood and the AFL cant survive the same way and let other clubs get a crack.

Saint Kilda and others just get shafted and so struggle to keep up with the AFL supported big clubs or expansion clubs.

 

[Obeanie1]

Listen, I don’t want to get in the way of a good melt, but Hawthorn have had SFA prime time games for the last 3-4 years, so I’m not sure you can say we’ve been given a favourable fixture for quite some time.

Also, the bush lawyer but st the end, chefs kiss, the cherry on top of a good whinge.

Hawthorn is not an AFL pet club.

Your ex president made sure of that.

And without pokies revenues Id suggest the family club would be complaigning more about its crap time slots.

It also got an invite to "Ground 0" and has two matches before several clubs get to play their 1st this season. At the very least can the idiots at AFL House fix that up.

Is that too much to ask fo?. Its like watching the favourites in a race doing two laps before you are allowed to even start. Like wtf.

 

[SC_Power]

Not Sunday afternoon for starts.

Eagles most weeks get the last Sunday slot. And TBH I havent minded the past three seasons as we have been terrible and at least my weekend is enjoyable.

Eagles can afford crap time slots as they have loyal followers and dont need the exposire to make money. Pity Collingwood and the AFL cant survive the same way and other clubs get a crack.

Saint Kilda and others just get shafted and so struggle to keep up with the AFL supported big clubs or ex0ansion clubs.

Yeah I get it, it was a pointed laugh that performance has been “the official reason” for prime time slots

Yet Port Adelaide as a top 4 team, managed to pick up ONE Thu/Fri night timeslot (away to Essendon).
And Carlton, Collingwood and Hawthorn picked up seven. EACH.

Your point about the Melbourne clubs needing favourable timeslots to continue make them viable is spot on. There was an exercise where someone took the average attendances against each club home and away in different timeslots, and then put together a “fair” draw and then calculated the +/- financial impact to each club. Gonna dig that one up, the essence was that it was the natural equivalent to the redistribution that happens now. And supposed justification that the current favouritism works to get a bigger pie so everyone gets bigger slices.

Which sounds great, except it’s screws over certain teams’ supporters and their attendance. A Thu or Fri night game at AO is amazing, yet we don’t get even one.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

opening round is ****in rubbish.

Just have round 1 where you play a game in every state, could even do Darwin.

The AFL season does not commence until Richmond plays Carlton on a Thursday night. Will never change my mind.

 

[SC_Power]

opening round is ****in rubbish.

Just have round 1 where you play a game in every state, could even do Darwin.

The AFL season does not commence until Richmond plays Carlton on a Thursday night. Will never change my mind.

Ah yes, the grand tradition of Rich v Carl. Time immemorial.

I remember reading about that all time classic opening round games in 1912 and 1914, less than a kick in it wasn’t it? Those were the good old days…….

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Ah yes, the grand tradition of Rich v Carl. Time immemorial.

I remember reading about that all time classic opening round games in 1912 and 1914, less than a kick in it wasn’t it? Those were the good old days…….

wtf are you on about?

 

[SC_Power]

wtf are you on about?

Sarcasm, sorry.

Richmond v Carlton isn’t the traditional season start it gets pumped up to be.

 

[SC_Power]

I’m sure the smarter adults in the room have already discussed and rejected this, however for my own benefit

Instead of moving the GC v Ess game to a standalone Rd 24 game in the vain hope it becomes a form of wildcard game (god help us all), is the following suggestion possible?

Simply move Essendon v Geelong from Rd 14 to Rd 16 (both currently have a Rd 16 bye)
Gold Coast already have a Rd 14 bye.

Therefore
Gold Coast v Essendon now can be played Rd 14.

Geelong’s bye moves from Rd 16 to Rd 14.
Essendon wouldn’t have to travel in the final week before finals.

Both teams do however lose their mid season bye.
And it will annoy some Ess and Geel fans in having to reschedule a second game through no fault of their own.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Its like a toxic relationship. They keep trying to make football a big thing in QLD/Sydney, they keep saying No and these morons keep going back on hands and knees begging for more.

Its not going to happen. Move on

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Sarcasm, sorry.

Richmond v Carlton isn’t the traditional season start it gets pumped up to be.

well i mean i did say in my perspective.....

you are welcome to disagree.

Richmond v Carlton have kicked us off pretty much every year from 2015 onwards apart from 2022 and then 2024.

two big clubs and a packed house MCG, nothing better to kick us off IMO. No reason they can't do that and then have a game in every state for round 1. Far better IMO than this current opening round rubbish.

 

[Black Diamond]

There is negligible extra interest in either of the Swans or Giants as a result of this.

It does next to nothing to promote the game in Sydney.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Imagine this as Round 1.

Richmond V Carlton
Crows v Port
West Coast v Fremantle
Swans v GWS
Brisbane v Gold Coast
Melbourne v Someone in Darwin

marquee games in every state or some combination of it to make sure everyone plays.......

would be ****in epic way to kick off the season IMO

 

[shintemaster]

opening round is ****in rubbish.

Just have round 1 where you play a game in every state, could even do Darwin.

The AFL season does not commence until Richmond plays Carlton on a Thursday night. Will never change my mind.

Wrong. The AFL season does not commence until your own team plays. I reckon 99% of football followers feel the same. Back to a proper Rd 1.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Wrong. The AFL season does not commence until your own team plays. I reckon 99% of football followers feel the same. Back to a proper Rd 1.

Nah i am all for Carlton v Richmond at a packed MCG on Thursday night. That to me is the season starting.

I do think though every team should play in round 1

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Actually like the idea of doing Opening round but do it a combination. Let the Northern states 'open' the season maybe Brisbane or Sydney whatever market you want, non fussed I'd selfishly like Brisbane as Thursday would suck in Sydney getting there. Then let the tradidional game be Friday night (Carl/Rich) then go from there. There's just no need for opening round it serves zero purpose.

 

[Madas]

Imagine this as Round 1.

Richmond V Carlton
Crows v Port
West Coast v Fremantle
Swans v GWS
Brisbane v Gold Coast
Melbourne v Someone in Darwin

marquee games in every state or some combination of it to make sure everyone plays.......

would be ****in epic way to kick off the season IMO

This is the way

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Actually like the idea of doing Opening round but do it a combination. Let the Northern states 'open' the season maybe Brisbane or Sydney whatever market you want, non fussed I'd selfishly like Brisbane as Thursday would suck in Sydney getting there. Then let the tradidional game be Friday night (Carl/Rich) then go from there. There's just no need for opening round it serves zero purpose.

what actual measurable benefit is there though?

What is the actual difference between Richmond Carlton on a Thursday night? Sydney on a Friday night and then Brisbane on the Saturday night?

What actual benefit is it to have Sydney or Brisbane go on the Thursday? Thats the bit i don't get

I reckon more people will dial into Carlton V Richmond, than Brisbane, or Swans regardless of who they play.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

what actual measurable benefit is there though?

What is the actual difference between Richmond Carlton on a Thursday nigh? Sydney on a Friday night and then Brisbane on the Saturday night?

What actual benefit is it to have Sydney or Brisbane go on the Thursday? Thats the bit don't get

Still would give the Northern side the 'opening the season' that the AFL wants. I'm not fussed either way I'd rather just can it but this is the AFL who refuse to make calls, this seems a fair compromise a middle ground and lets be real if Carlton don't smack the Richmond VFL side by 10 goals they aren't being serious. I'd actually go with Brisbane vs Pies in Brisbane opening game.

 

[BigVic]

We have been screwed. Two seasons in a row we had to put up with Opening Round and play in a cow paddock. On both occasions, we lost by 32 and 52 points to GWS

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Still would give the Northern side the 'opening the season' that the AFL wants. I'm not fussed either way I'd rather just can it but this is the AFL who refuse to make calls, this seems a fair compromise a middle ground and lets be real if Carlton don't smack the Richmond VFL side by 10 goals they aren't being serious. I'd actually go with Brisbane vs Pies in Brisbane opening game.

Seems dumb to do it, just to do it.

I think get a marquee game in every state for R1 and then kick it off with Richmond V Carlton on Thursday night, everyone plays so no more of this goofy bye shit.

Even without the cyclone, Vandy's and the NRL would be ****in laughing at the AFL right now.

 

[Orange crush]

I’ve never liked the concept, but after yesterday it’s growing on me

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Seems dumb to do it, just to do it.

I think get a marquee game in every state for R1 and then kick it off with Richmond V Carlton on Thursday night, everyone plays.

Even without the cyclone, Vandy's and the NRL would be ****in laughing at the AFL right now.

Marquee sure, but no derbies, leave them for during the year and spread them out. Can have a big game without it being a derby, for instance Dogs would be a good game for Sydney. I'd just get rid of the concept we tried it, hasn't worked sometimes the worst thing is keeping doing something that's not working.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Marquee sure, but no derbies, leave them for during the year and spread them out. Can have a big game without it being a derby, for instance Dogs would be a good game for Sydney. I'd just get rid of the concept we tried it, hasn't worked sometimes the worst thing is keeping doing something that's not working.

I mean that's works too.

that's means can have 2 matches in each state for R1.

either way its way better than the dumb opening round crap.