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Smart moneyThank God that never happened hey.
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Smart moneyThank God that never happened hey.
Yeah that was my point?They didn't "prop them up" with $25m. The lowest club distribution will probably be around ~$13M this year so the "premium" might be about $12M
Last year they got a bit over $17M which was only $5M more than your club
Do you seriously think Tasmania’s population would stop following whoever they support and start following a new Tasmanian side? Do I think GC was a viable option? No I don’t.Fine, let football die completely here. but for Gods sake, lets keep spoon feeding 100 year old suburban clubs who are always on the financial Tit to stay alive. Don't ever let them be exposed to reality.
Yeah, we've heard this for literally decades (and it was one the big "arguments" to try and get North to move) but it isn't being borne out.
I think the Suns should stay, they need support, they should get support. But the idea that any CG franchise is going to ever be something beyond a small club is just fanciful.
And for decades the population has kept growing. I don't know what you think "hasn't been borne out" except for some straw man. Like I said, in 2050 the suns will be 40 years old and Gold Coast will have 1.2M people
"Small" is subjective but they'll end up bigger than your club, that's for sure
even Vlad conceded that the GC will always be a smaller club last year.And for decades the population has kept growing. I don't know what you think "hasn't been borne out" except for some straw man. Like I said, in 2050 the suns will be 40 years old and Gold Coast will have 1.2M people
"Small" is subjective but they'll end up bigger than your club, that's for sure
None. If the AFL distributed a larger share of the TV rights no Vic clubs would make a loss. Do you think GC adds anything to the TV rights? There's a massive difference in what the VIC/SA/WA clubs earn for the AFL compared to the RL state clubs. Not even Sydney pay their way unless they play in the GF and get a large Sydney audience. The GC and GWS expansion are purely future plays. Whether it works out is debatable but as it stands it has been a failure on every front.
If they need it, give it to them.
We're too far down the rabbit hole now.
The AFL should assist further by ensuring all but one home games are in the saturday twilight slot (best slot for home fans to attend but downside is all foxtel games outside if Qld), one friday night home game on free to air tv, and away games are therefore in other saturday/ sunday slots with a mix of free to air and foxtel slots (giving some exposure to their sponsors)
I would rather prop up / subsidise / assist a team in QLD or NSW than Vic, SA or WA
Do you seriously think Tasmania’s population would stop following whoever they support and start following a new Tasmanian side? Do I think GC was a viable option? No I don’t.
They are and always were long term plan that will only grow over time!
The suns have a few issues that they need to work out
The advertising dollar alone in Qld is worth not than SA and WA alone so they do add some worth to the overall broadcast dollar as well as the wank factor to advertisers that they have teams based in those states
even Vlad conceded that the GC will always be a smaller club last year.
The GC is just not a footy city.
But Melbourne's population is growing faster than the GC.
And they'll never have more members than the smallest Melbourne club.
They aren't loosing money, that's just a lazy, ill-informed clichéd view.So Vic teams are losing money and have been for awhile, you could have just stopped there.
You do realize the AFL got a larger tv rights deal because of the teams in NSW and QLD right? There is a correlation between the two.
GC and GWS were always long term plays, having a strong foothold in the northern states is crucial to the long term growth of the sport.
But Melbourne's population is growing faster than the GC.
And they'll never have more members than the smallest Melbourne club.
So you think advertisers are really dumb?
Why would they pay any significant amount of money to advertise when ratings are so awful?
There is a reason people within the media industry talk about ratings...it's not a popularity contest, its what drives the vast majority of their revenue.
I meant who would they currently support as an AFL side now? Would they defect to a Tasmanian side? I have always thought that the viability in Tasmania hasn't been great due to the fact it is a football state but those supporters of AFL already have chosen clubs.When you say support currently, do you mean financially?. So yes I very seriously believe people here would become members of a Tasmanian AFL club. Just like they did in WA & SA. It'd be no different here. Thats the proof they would.
Right now we are seeing the neglect of football here & its consequences for the aspirations of all players.
Yeah right, and if you want to talk about investments going forward, then Brisbane have actually managed to start to get their house in order. GC have been established since 2011 and done nothing. Brisbane havn't done much in that period, but they're heading the right way. Unless Dew can turn the club around in 2 years, the money needs to go towards Brisbane who need to be identified as the sole Queensland club. Are GC heading the right way? Lets find out at the end of 2018.
What about Tas?
So you think advertisers are really dumb?
Why would they pay any significant amount of money to advertise when ratings are so awful?
There is a reason people within the media industry talk about ratings...it's not a popularity contest, its what drives the vast majority of their revenue.