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Just find a way to get their players to not leave.
Unless that changes, they'll be stuffed forever.
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Just find a way to get their players to not leave.
Unless that changes, they'll be stuffed forever.
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I just know that it's all been downhill since the board randomly decided to sack Voss as he was hitting his straps. I actually saw a lot of promise in the team Voss had developed. They played tough football that would've worked well in finals and went close to being a finals team. Now they are just rabble.
They have also gone back to making the drafting mistakes they made in Voss's first few years. Seems like at some level in the club there is a lack of knowledge or a person or group that has the power to make stupid or naive decisions unchecked.
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Is Brisbane the only club to have players leave? Well I never.
No but bar the expansion clubs Brisbane have been getting hit harder than what any other club has been in regards to player retention.
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Hmm. Not a bad idea. I'm sure Mark Evans and the AFL commission will consider it.
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Have they? Hmmm. Could you elaborate?
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They'd still be crap if they had those players, though. Clark stays, no Docherty anyway.
What's worrying is that Clark, Rischitelli, Leuenberger, Redden and Aish all left to join clubs in states that they aren't from.
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One? The AFL Commission and Mark Evans are conducting a very important, thorough internal revision of our club where everyone from Leigh Matthews to the bootstudder will be personally interviewed.
Even the Lions player managers will be canvassed on their views about why the hell they can't get very important deals for their clients over the line at the Lions. Lions management is clearly in crisis. Lewis Taylor isn't being signed off on his $500,000 per year and Rockliff isn't getting his $800,000 per year for the next five years. Even "Brion" the inflatable Lion run-through will be canvassed on his views. I believe Brion is very unhappy with his renumeration and his manager can't understand why his run-through contract for the next three years won't be getting a substantial increase. There's a good chance there will be a substantial mascot exodus from the Lions at the end of this year.
So there won't just be one thing the AFL commission will need to do to fix these problems. The list is long...I just listed the starting points....but there is so just so much more that needs to be done.
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Huh? is this an inference that Brisbane cheated to win their three premierships? nice input to the discussion
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Bingo. Wondered how long it would take.
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Is Brisbane the only club to have players leave? Well I never.
The threads about Brisbane. Players leaving is not an issue then?
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Not any more. 18 players have re-signed since the end of last season - the latest being Sam Mayes. He was out the door according to media reports.
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I feel sorry for Brisbane when:
- GC have had a plethora of draft concessions and they are even poaching WA talent to secure under the Academy system
- the Swans still have a retention allowance, father son access and an academy system
- GWS have their draft concessions, Riverina zone and their retention allowance.
Definitely got it hardest in the league. Afl need to reduce the concessions to the NSW clubs and increase them to Brisbane.
- GC have had a plethora of draft concessions and they are even poaching WA talent to secure under the Academy system
- the Swans still have a retention allowance, father son access and an academy system
- GWS have their draft concessions, Riverina zone and their retention allowance.
Definitely got it hardest in the league. Afl need to reduce the concessions to the NSW clubs and increase them to Brisbane.
Mainly in the trades. The top teams are delisting decent players to fit better ones on their list, while teams like Brisbane keep losing good players and draft picks for nothing extraordinary. For example, contrast what Brisbane got for their spending with us picking up Dangerfield and Henderson, or the Hawks picking up Lake. We paid a decent price, but what we got was team transforming.
In 2014:
Picks 5 and 25 and Jack Crisp to Collingwood for Dayne Beams and pick No.67
Pick No.21 to Geelong for Allen Christensen
(That's a lot to trade for those two and did they really need a Beams and Christensen type player?)
2015 was better. The Walker/Jansen/Bell trade was probably made worth it by getting something more unique in a big bodied midfielder like Bell. The Bastinac - Aish trade is hard to judge. Aish was going so they probably did the best they could. AFL.com.au still gave them only a "C" rating for the trade period.
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The Beams and Christensen trades only look s**t because Beams hasn't played. Christensen has been OK. The only problem with that trade is that seemingly no fight was put up to keep Patfull.
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If people are looking for an example of terrible list management, here's one:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...e/news-story/d951d6fb29875188104e3445a5d9ea56
Surely he's not actually on a 5 year, $3m deal starting from next year?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...e/news-story/d951d6fb29875188104e3445a5d9ea56
Surely he's not actually on a 5 year, $3m deal starting from next year?
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Beams is the best player on their list by a mile and won their best and fairest despite missing 6 games. Won that trade by a mile
Maybe. I think you can use trades to fill some gaps in a team that is already established, but you can't use them to build a team. Doing so destroys the balance because you suddenly start making the new guys who don't know the game plan, playing style etc of the team the central focus. Building a team from the top down around a bunch of new guys like that is bound to fail.
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Beams is an A-Grader, a Queenslander and wanted to return to play with his brother. Won best and fairest last year. Great trade.
Good trade also. Been one of our better senior players.
Yeah. At the time. We needed more depth in our midfield. Now we need a back up ruckman and a big bodied 23-26 year old key defender. All part of the list rebuild.
A Queenslander, one of Carlton's better players in 2015 and has had some good games for the Lions this year.
Tom Bell and Pick 41 (Sam Skinner) for Picks 21 and 60.
Walker AND Jansen for 2016 third round DP.
Oh well. If afl.com.au say so, it must be true.
Incidentally the full trade was
Picks 38, 40, (used for Eric Hipwood and Ben Keays) St Kilda's 2016 second-round selection, North's 2016 third-round selection and Ryan Bastinac in return for Pick 17 and James Aish.
Eric Hipwood kicked four goals today. Bastinac had a very good game today. Ben Keays has had a solid start to his career. More Academy players such as Jacob Allison will be picked up with the 2016 selections. Excellent trade is my view.
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Bizarre comment. If the AFL wanted the Lions to die they'd just let them self destruct.
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