AFL to be available on Apple TV in 4k HDR in 2018 ?

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Likely a HD broadcast upscaled to 4K. Probably just a placeholder image.

Anyway, not sure of 2018 but 2019 we'll definitely start seeing more 4K streaming content. I pay the extra money for 4K streaming on netflix and am extremely lucky to have a superb ADSL connection (consistently 20MB/s) so I'd definitely pay extra for 4K sport, especially NBA, MLB and AFL. Will be a while before we see it on digital FTA because the current digital frequencies can't deliver in 4K if I'm correct.

100% the AFL does the most AFL thing ever and offers 4K streaming to international subscribers but offers only 720p for Aussies.
 

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This is what I was also thinking

Apple must have shown AFL for a reason

They also showed how the new augmented reality addition to the iPhone , will be able to be , when your in your stadium seat at a baseball match , and view the stats of any player shown in real time on the field right in front of you.

Could that be a new addition to AFL matches ?
Useable dataspeeds at the footy?

I'd like to see that.
 
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IF the game becomes available on a streaming device (which I doubt as fox wouldn't want exclusivity taken away) it won't be 4k.

It will be upscaled at best. You have to shoot it in 4k for it to be properly shown in 4k.
I have a lot of upscaled 4K, and much of it is pretty decent. Native 4K is better, but the difference is fairly minor. Depends on the upscaling used (some of it can be a bit blocky, but mostly its pretty good)

I watch a lot of 4K (and HDR/ Dolby vision) content on my LG OLED.

Have NBN, 4K Netflix and a 4K Blu Ray (the latter was just to see what the TV was capable of; still totally worth it).

Once you've seen [4K + HDR + OLED] you cant go back. It's so freaking lifelike, they have to nail the special effects and makeup or else it looks like a bunch of cos-players.

I bought the Revenant (4K+HDR) DVD and.. ohmy*******god. It's ridiculously good. I dont even really like the movie, but have watched it dozens of times just to jizz over the picture quality. Cant wait for 5 years time when that becomes the standard. The Planet Earth Doco's in 4K + HDR are also mind numbingly good. Better than lifelike.

4K is great (where you can get it) but it's the HDR that makes the biggest difference, and we wont see HDR on broadcast TV for years. Netflix has some HDR titles (the Marvel stuff mainly, but a few other shows as well) and slightly more 4K stuff (House of Cards).

The problem when you get used to HDR + 4K is going 'back' to HD or UHD. When I flick back to Foxtel or 7, it just looks... crap.

I'd pay a premium to watch footy in 4K. There is no technical reason why they cant do it really (over an internet streamer like Foxtel). Netflix manage just fine.

The only reason is cost. Not enough people have 4K TV's or NBN to justify the expense of setting it up at present.

That'll change in the next few years though.
 

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I have a lot of upscaled 4K, and much of it is pretty decent. Native 4K is better, but the difference is fairly minor. Depends on the upscaling used (some of it can be a bit blocky, but mostly its pretty good)

I watch a lot of 4K (and HDR/ Dolby vision) content on my LG OLED.

Have NBN, 4K Netflix and a 4K Blu Ray (the latter was just to see what the TV was capable of; still totally worth it).

Once you've seen [4K + HDR + OLED] you cant go back. It's so freaking lifelike, they have to nail the special effects and makeup or else it looks like a bunch of cos-players.

I bought the Revenant (4K+HDR) DVD and.. ohmy*******god. It's ridiculously good. I dont even really like the movie, but have watched it dozens of times just to jizz over the picture quality. Cant wait for 5 years time when that becomes the standard. The Planet Earth Doco's in 4K + HDR are also mind numbingly good. Better than lifelike.

4K is great (where you can get it) but it's the HDR that makes the biggest difference, and we wont see HDR on broadcast TV for years. Netflix has some HDR titles (the Marvel stuff mainly, but a few other shows as well) and slightly more 4K stuff (House of Cards).

The problem when you get used to HDR + 4K is going 'back' to HD or UHD. When I flick back to Foxtel or 7, it just looks... crap.

I'd pay a premium to watch footy in 4K. There is no technical reason why they cant do it really (over an internet streamer like Foxtel). Netflix manage just fine.

The only reason is cost. Not enough people have 4K TV's or NBN to justify the expense of setting it up at present.

That'll change in the next few years though.
Agree with everything you've said. This conversation will be had again when we've caught up and the rest of the world is enjoying 8k!

But our eyes are only capable of taking in so much, so I think the demand will get slower and slower.
 

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I have a lot of upscaled 4K, and much of it is pretty decent. Native 4K is better, but the difference is fairly minor. Depends on the upscaling used (some of it can be a bit blocky, but mostly its pretty good)

I watch a lot of 4K (and HDR/ Dolby vision) content on my LG OLED.

Have NBN, 4K Netflix and a 4K Blu Ray (the latter was just to see what the TV was capable of; still totally worth it).

Once you've seen [4K + HDR + OLED] you cant go back. It's so freaking lifelike, they have to nail the special effects and makeup or else it looks like a bunch of cos-players.

I bought the Revenant (4K+HDR) DVD and.. ohmy*******god. It's ridiculously good. I dont even really like the movie, but have watched it dozens of times just to jizz over the picture quality. Cant wait for 5 years time when that becomes the standard. The Planet Earth Doco's in 4K + HDR are also mind numbingly good. Better than lifelike.

4K is great (where you can get it) but it's the HDR that makes the biggest difference, and we wont see HDR on broadcast TV for years. Netflix has some HDR titles (the Marvel stuff mainly, but a few other shows as well) and slightly more 4K stuff (House of Cards).

The problem when you get used to HDR + 4K is going 'back' to HD or UHD. When I flick back to Foxtel or 7, it just looks... crap.

I'd pay a premium to watch footy in 4K. There is no technical reason why they cant do it really (over an internet streamer like Foxtel). Netflix manage just fine.

The only reason is cost. Not enough people have 4K TV's or NBN to justify the expense of setting it up at present.

That'll change in the next few years though.
I install av amongst other things and bought my tv just before the lg came out.

Doh!!

Its sex

But yeah 4k is seriously amazing - last night i accidentally put a 4k porn channel on and the resolution was so perfect.

You could actually see how disappointed their parents were.







Seriously though - cant wait for 4k footy
 
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Agree with everything you've said. This conversation will be had again when we've caught up and the rest of the world is enjoying 8k!

But our eyes are only capable of taking in so much, so I think the demand will get slower and slower.
4K looks great (particularly native 4K) but the real money is in HDR. Combining the two and you get a picture quality that is beyond lifelike.

HDR is still in its infancy with broadcasting. The BBC are looking into it (as are some US TV stations) but it's simply not worth it at present.

With more and more people headed to streaming services, the future of broadcast TV is a but tenuous for mine.

Im hopeful for a premium service in the near future that offers 4K footy (HDR is still a way off). I would be happy with upscaling even at this point.
 

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I have a lot of upscaled 4K, and much of it is pretty decent. Native 4K is better, but the difference is fairly minor. Depends on the upscaling used (some of it can be a bit blocky, but mostly its pretty good)

I watch a lot of 4K (and HDR/ Dolby vision) content on my LG OLED.

Have NBN, 4K Netflix and a 4K Blu Ray (the latter was just to see what the TV was capable of; still totally worth it).

Once you've seen [4K + HDR + OLED] you cant go back. It's so freaking lifelike, they have to nail the special effects and makeup or else it looks like a bunch of cos-players.

I bought the Revenant (4K+HDR) DVD and.. ohmy*******god. It's ridiculously good. I dont even really like the movie, but have watched it dozens of times just to jizz over the picture quality. Cant wait for 5 years time when that becomes the standard. The Planet Earth Doco's in 4K + HDR are also mind numbingly good. Better than lifelike.

4K is great (where you can get it) but it's the HDR that makes the biggest difference, and we wont see HDR on broadcast TV for years. Netflix has some HDR titles (the Marvel stuff mainly, but a few other shows as well) and slightly more 4K stuff (House of Cards).

The problem when you get used to HDR + 4K is going 'back' to HD or UHD. When I flick back to Foxtel or 7, it just looks... crap.

I'd pay a premium to watch footy in 4K. There is no technical reason why they cant do it really (over an internet streamer like Foxtel). Netflix manage just fine.

The only reason is cost. Not enough people have 4K TV's or NBN to justify the expense of setting it up at present.

That'll change in the next few years though.

I live in one of the first towns on nbn fttp

Takeup of 4k tvs here is huge
 

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4K looks great (particularly native 4K) but the real money is in HDR. Combining the two and you get a picture quality that is beyond lifelike.

HDR is still in its infancy with broadcasting. The BBC are looking into it (as are some US TV stations) but it's simply not worth it at present.

With more and more people headed to streaming services, the future of broadcast TV is a but tenuous for mine.

Im hopeful for a premium service in the near future that offers 4K footy (HDR is still a way off). I would be happy with upscaling even at this point.
100%

Seriously, the second footy is available through Apple TV or whatever else, foxtel is getting booted.

You're right about it being a money thing. Unfortunately for us in aus, the demographics of tv still hold a lot of weight. Oldies just don't know how to operate anything else. It's definitely on the way out though.
 
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I install av amongst other things and bought my tv just before the lg came out.

Doh!!

Its sex

But yeah 4k is seriously amazing - last night i accidentally put a 4k porn channel on and the resolution was so perfect.

You could actually see how disappointed their parents were.







Seriously though - cant wait for 4k footy
Cant speak highly enough of the OLEDs with 4K + HDR. Its a 7 grand telly (ouch) but it's as future proof as it can get (supports both formats of HDR, has wi-fi, the brand new HDMI ports etc, screen share with the Mobile letting me cheekily stream AFL matches from my phone to the TV etc).

OLEDs infinite contrast (thanks to the true blacks; a black screen is like the TV is switched off) plus HDR colors, plus 4K resolution is just... wow.

Ive watched the Revenant in 4K + HDR on the OLED over a dozen times, and I still keep shaking my head at how some scenes look. Panoramas of trees miles away and you can see the individual branches, fires at night just pop. The colors in the sunsets and sunrises. Water looks like... real water. The wrinkles on the Indian chiefs face look... beyond realistic.

If I had one criticism, its that you can sometimes get a 'judder' that I have found hard to remove via TV tuning.

There is enough 4K and HDR content now (assuming you have NBN and Netflix and grab yourself a 4K HDR Blue Ray player) to justify getting one. Its still early days though, so make sure its future proofed.
 

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Cant speak highly enough of the OLEDs with 4K + HDR. Its a 7 grand telly (ouch) but it's as future proof as it can get (supports both formats of HDR, has wi-fi, the brand new HDMI ports etc, screen share with the Mobile letting me cheekily stream AFL matches from my phone to the TV etc).

OLEDs infinite contrast (thanks to the true blacks; a black screen is like the TV is switched off) plus HDR colors, plus 4K resolution is just... wow.

Ive watched the Revenant in 4K + HDR on the OLED over a dozen times, and I still keep shaking my head at how some scenes look. Panoramas of trees miles away and you can see the individual branches, fires at night just pop. The colors in the sunsets and sunrises. Water looks like... real water. The wrinkles on the Indian chiefs face look... beyond realistic.

If I had one criticism, its that you can sometimes get a 'judder' that I have found hard to remove via TV tuning.

There is enough 4K and HDR content now (assuming you have NBN and Netflix and grab yourself a 4K HDR Blue Ray player) to justify getting one. Its still early days though, so make sure its future proofed.
Yeah those blacks.....

My dad and my bro both bought after me and i got them to get the lg

As do i with most of my customers.

Just need someone to rob the house now....
 
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I have a lot of upscaled 4K, and much of it is pretty decent. Native 4K is better, but the difference is fairly minor. Depends on the upscaling used (some of it can be a bit blocky, but mostly its pretty good)

I watch a lot of 4K (and HDR/ Dolby vision) content on my LG OLED.

Have NBN, 4K Netflix and a 4K Blu Ray (the latter was just to see what the TV was capable of; still totally worth it).

Once you've seen [4K + HDR + OLED] you cant go back. It's so freaking lifelike, they have to nail the special effects and makeup or else it looks like a bunch of cos-players.

I bought the Revenant (4K+HDR) DVD and.. ohmy*******god. It's ridiculously good. I dont even really like the movie, but have watched it dozens of times just to jizz over the picture quality. Cant wait for 5 years time when that becomes the standard. The Planet Earth Doco's in 4K + HDR are also mind numbingly good. Better than lifelike.

4K is great (where you can get it) but it's the HDR that makes the biggest difference, and we wont see HDR on broadcast TV for years. Netflix has some HDR titles (the Marvel stuff mainly, but a few other shows as well) and slightly more 4K stuff (House of Cards).

The problem when you get used to HDR + 4K is going 'back' to HD or UHD. When I flick back to Foxtel or 7, it just looks... crap.

I'd pay a premium to watch footy in 4K. There is no technical reason why they cant do it really (over an internet streamer like Foxtel). Netflix manage just fine.

The only reason is cost. Not enough people have 4K TV's or NBN to justify the expense of setting it up at present.

That'll change in the next few years though.
Revenent is real ootdoor footage not cg
 
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Mate, it shows.

Of all the 4K HDR Blu rays (and streaming shows) I've watched, it is by far and away the best one.

Actually Mad Max Fury Road is a close second. The colors on that in HDR are insane.


It's also a better movie.
The opening skirmish in revenent is insane
 

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You're telling me that a photo of an AFL game was used during an international keynote watch by millions?

That's given the game more exposure than the China game.
To be fair, China has a population of over 1.4 billion. If you give the total amount of keynote viewers, a fanciful estimate like 100 million, that's still only a fraction of the audience.
 

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Streaming rights are sold seperatley.

The question you ask is foxtels problem. Across the board with all their content. They are a dying industry.
Foxtel have exclusive rights to anything on a screen
bigger than 7 inches. Even the big iPads are limited to 7 inches.

Nothing can change til he next Tv deal.
 

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Foxtel have exclusive rights to anything on a screen
bigger than 7 inches. Even the big iPads are limited to 7 inches.

Nothing can change til he next Tv deal.
Well there you go. I thoight the AFL was more forward thinking than that.

Cheers!
 
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