Mega Thread AFL to investigate Essendon for controversial fitness program - PART3

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you are going to like Act Two then. What information could Danks possibly provide to minimize his punishment?
The paper trail will lead them to a dodgy chemist, who supplied legal peptides to him,

Why did they (danks and robison) have to approach outside medical people when they had a respected and knowledgeable doctor at windy hill?

Prescriptions maybe?
 

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I was going by information coming from club and media sources, namely from those with Twitter accounts a lot closer to the facts than you, me or anyone else would be...that the press conferences were set to happen. As more information came out, that didn't happen.

What we do now know is that Essendon have acted voluntarily and not the way Cronulla has.
so these people in the know knew a press conference was happening that didn't happen. Don't you think the logical conclusion is they are not as clued in as they say??

as for bragging about your sources being from Twitter, seriously dude, just nail the target straight to your head
 
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The paper trail will lead them to a dodgy chemist, who supplied legal peptides to him,

Why did they (danks and robison) have to approach outside medical people when they had a respected and knowledgeable doctor at windy hill?

Prescriptions maybe?
Is it "confidential medical" information to find out who has been prescribed peptides, or can they find out from the Chemist.
If so it could be the weak link.
 

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Is it "confidential medical" information to find out who has been prescribed peptides, or can they find out from the Chemist.
If so it could be the weak link.
All jokes aside, if Danks is going down for Cronulla, this will get messy. Its in his interest to minimize the punishment, and that means lets make a deal.

name every supplier you bought from

name every club you sold to

name every official you spoke to about supplements

name every person you have supplied

name every player you have injected

He has already been made a pariah, he has nothing to lose
 

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Is it "confidential medical" information to find out who has been prescribed peptides, or can they find out from the Chemist.
If so it could be the weak link.
the information is probably confidential, but the purchasing order at 10K at a time will lead them to it, in a investigation of thistype it will be dank bought these , they were paid by the EFC, the EFC will of course deny they were being used at their club, but if that was the case why havent they gone after him for falsifying invoices.

theft as a servant comes to mind. Jail time, Im sure Dank will say that the said vitamins were used by the EFC,
 

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All jokes aside, if Danks is going down for Cronulla, this will get messy. Its in his interest to minimize the punishment, and that means lets make a deal.

name every supplier you bought from

name every club you sold to

name every official you spoke to about supplements

name every person you have supplied

name every player you have injected

He has already been made a pariah, he has nothing to lose

Yep. Hence him naming Essendon coaching staff.

If he's going down, he's going to take down a lot of people with him.
 

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since when has evidence been relevant in this thread?
Really lance, and you have never asked for evidence, why is that opponent to you point of view need evidence , and supporters of your point of view dont......

Dont you think that is a double standard?
 

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The stupid thing is a 6 month ban handed out in round 1 is effectively a 1 year ban, or altenative if it was issued in Sept it could be effectively zero ban. Shouldn't these penalties bear some relation to the sports they are applied. Like 11 games or something. Seems like a fair oversight to me.
 

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Yep. Hence him naming Essendon coaching staff.

If he's going down, he's going to take down a lot of people with him.
Yes, there's little doubt about that. I'm still gobsmacked by the completely inadequate journalist that was given that interview. Right there was a red flag screaming to be followed up and it was pretty much ignored.
 

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Sure Dank was selling off-list peptides to the Bombers - but that was just because the coaches had expensive habits.
The players were all just on vitamin enriched ribena.

Thats your fairytale alibi - stick to it!
 

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The stupid thing is a 6 month ban handed out in round 1 is effectively a 1 year ban, or altenative if it was issued in Sept it could be effectively zero ban. Shouldn't these penalties bear some relation to the sports they are applied. Like 11 games or something. Seems like a fair oversight to me.
no, there is a reason its absolute

A runner suspended for 6 months just 4 weeks before the Olympics will pay a much higher price than a league player missing one season. They don't get a special discount though, they just miss the Olympics.

That idiot Finey was going on last night that the Cronulla players should get no suspension because they didn't actually succeed in winning when they broke the rules.

When you start making qualifications based upon sport, seasonality, personal situation, etc, the lawyers loop hole you to death, and everyone gets the AFL endorsed wet lettuce.
 
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The stupid thing is a 6 month ban handed out in round 1 is effectively a 1 year ban, or altenative if it was issued in Sept it could be effectively zero ban. Shouldn't these penalties bear some relation to the sports they are applied. Like 11 games or something. Seems like a fair oversight to me.
Yep. Trouble is the rules were not necessarily made with a particular sport in mind. But yes you would think that they would have paid some sort of consideration to the seasonal nature of a lot of sports.
 

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The stupid thing is a 6 month ban handed out in round 1 is effectively a 1 year ban, or altenative if it was issued in Sept it could be effectively zero ban. Shouldn't these penalties bear some relation to the sports they are applied. Like 11 games or something. Seems like a fair oversight to me.
As much as I'd hate to see players miss a year, I personally believe that if sanctions are to be handed down, it has to be now and not in September, where the impact would be minimal to the Club that allowed it to happen (through lack of processes or whatever).
 

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Yes, there's little doubt about that. I'm still gobsmacked by the completely inadequate journalist that was given that interview. Right there was a red flag screaming to be followed up and it was pretty much ignored.
And she is their number one sports journalist and a Walkley winner. Says a lot for journalism in Australia. The Fairfax ones are beholden to the AFL for their exclusive leak access and the News Ltd are just hopeless speculators with enormous egos.
 
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As much as I'd hate to see players miss a year, I personally believe that if sanctions are to be handed down, it has to be now and not in September, where the impact would be minimal to the Club that allowed it to happen (through lack of processes or whatever).
They probably have a certain amount of disgression as well.
If they offer a player 6 months now. Under the same circumstances in September, they may only offer 12 months.
 

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As much as I'd hate to see players miss a year, I personally believe that if sanctions are to be handed down, it has to be now and not in September, where the impact would be minimal to the Club that allowed it to happen (through lack of processes or whatever).
Thats why the Bombers and the AFL have sarted their investigations try and rag it out to minimse the impact on their season.

It could also explain ASADA nailing cronulla just before the sason, six months now is a whole heap of pain, six months in september, wet lettuce leaf, ASADA are not fools and they do understand the sseasonal nature of the sports involved.
 

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Sure Dank was selling off-list peptides to the Bombers - but that was just because the coaches had expensive habits.
The players were all just on vitamin enriched ribena.

Thats your fairytale alibi - stick to it!
So he told the truth about what he gave the coaches and lied about the players.

Got it.
 
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