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Discussion in 'Essendon' started by orco, Feb 3, 2017.
Thoroughly entertaining game tonight. Wish we had a team in the women's comp.
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It was entertaining indeed.
We'll get one eventually. Don't blame the club for holding out at first from pushing too hard. Need to stabilise the finances.
Remarkable crowd in particular.
It will be good to get one but I'm content to wait a few years. We can see how other clubs manage their women's team, work down our debt levels and possibly get some advantages from being an 'expansion' side in terms of access to talent etc.
Am I the only one who thinks "AFLW" would look better as "AWFL" similar to the way the VWFL, WAWFL, SAWFL does it?
Can't say I've given it a second of thought, Eth.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE GRAMMATICAL SENSE
Might want to see how your suggestion sounds out loud. Could be the reason they didn't go with it.
Yeah, just realized that. Still, WANFL would still make more sense than AFLW
Yeah they probably thought about it, but as an acronym it reads 'Awful' they probably didn't want any negative meaning towards the new competition. Just my 2 cents..
As with anything the league does, the entire exercise is geared towards maximising TV rights for the marquee product. Get more kids playing, get more women watching, and keep "AFL" front and centre - hence the name.
Essendon will get a team eventually, but was never going to get one in the first tranch. Four Melbourne teams, the two who did the groundwork were gimmes, as were Carlton for Princes Park, so it comes down to the biggest club in the land, or the club coming off the biggest scandal in the land. Or the other Melbourne clubs, who coincidentally all withdrew their bids too.
Goes without saying.
But if a side effect of that is that girls who want to play football now have a top tier (as far as women's footy goes) comp to aspire to, then that's a good thing.
It is the branding eth. The AFL wants everything they can named AFLX or AFLZ. Queensland footy AFLQ.
Considering we have a very well established Women's network, I would image they would be eager to focus their attention on the women's side, it might even have the added benefit of increasing the profile of that group among Essendon members, we have one of the largest women supporter bases so if it was possible to join them with that network, which in turn supported the side, it may be a good way of building and maintaining membership levels.
It's awfl, so better stick to how it is now
After watching the first 1/4 last night, I would think the last thing anyone should be contemplating... is diluting the womens' talent pool any further.
Harsh. First game. Plenty of growth to occur.
Imagine being told at 12 you can't play footy anymore just because. Then you have nothing until you finish school. imagine losing that six years of potential development. This games got legs whether people like it or not.
I think there is a place for the womens' game, but I think its development will take a fair but longer than people think... and until then, I would not be adding any more teams, as the 'brand' would suffer.
I agree. I think it needs to run for at least 3 seasons as it is. Allow more younger players to come through and get more playing in the Metro leauge.
Need to work on their venues and ticketing as well.
Finances yes, but more - we just needed to get our shit together as a football club and organisation.
We'll get one, and when we do we'll do it from a position of stability, sound judgement and preparedness.
On the plus side, it's a good candidate for using the traditional suburban grounds e.g. Princes Park, Windy Hill, Whitten, Arden St. I like being able to wander down to Windy Hill and check out the VFL when it's on, if they were to play AFLW games I'd most likely do the same.
Good way to build some community around the games in the early stages, I can't see them topping the 22k attendance from Friday night for a standalone match at the moment, the product just isn't at that point yet. Running them as a double-header for the pre-season games will work, and using the existing grounds (when they aren't taken over for Cricket) means they'll be reasonably accessible to the local community and already have most of the infrastructure in place from the VFL comp.
I do agree that from a product point of view they need to do everything possible to prevent diluting the talent pool further, it will take a good 5 - 10 years before we see those 12yo kids that play through to U18 and then AFL level coming through that the Womens side currently lacks.
What are prices like?
At the moment free.
Still in its infancy. As NAB said you don't want to dilute the talent pool any further.
Skill level is about on par with U12's. A lot of them can't even kick a drop punt. What is exiting about it other than the novelty factor. What makes it harder to watch is the commentators constantly talking everything up, even the skills.