AFL Women's League

[CrowdedHouse]

RESULTS: Day 3 of the AFL Youth Girls National Championships

Pool A:
Western Australia 7.7 (49)
Queensland 7.6 (48)

Victoria Metro 6.9 (45)
Victoria Country 2.4 (16)

Pool B:
Tasmania 7.10 (52)
Woomeras 1.2 (8)

NSW/ACT 8.12 (60)
Northern Territory 0.6 (6)

South Australia - BYE

 

[CrowdedHouse]

Final Day of the AFL Youth Girls National Championships (so far).

Pool B:
NSW/ACT 10.12 (72)
South Australia 1.1 (7)

NT 9.10 (64)
Woomeras 2.5 (17)

Pool A:
(3rd) Victoria Country 6.7 (43)
(4th) Queensland 5.4 (34)

Vic Metro play WA in the Grand Final after 5pm at the MCG - Watch via http://aflcommunity.com.au/index.php?id=748

Pool B Champions - New South Wales/ACT

 

[jatz14]

If NSW/ACT are going to beat the Woomeras by 100pts, let's hope the Woomeras don't have to play against anyone really good.

NSW/ACT beat SA by 10 goals to go undefeated. Would be competitive in Div A, without necessarily winning any games. SA still struggling to bridge the gap. Really curious to see how SA women's go against NSW.

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[Gigantor]

NSW/ACT beat SA by 10 goals to go undefeated. Would be competitive in Div A, without necessarily winning any games. SA still struggling to bridge the gap. Really curious to see how SA women's go against NSW.

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Really surprising to see SA so far behind NSW/ACT.

 

[CrowdedHouse]

Really surprising to see SA so far behind NSW/ACT.

It's a big change to last year when SA thumped NSW in the Grand Final.

However, that probably comes down to turnover of players (best players now over 18, etc).

 

[Gigantor]

It's a big change to last year when SA thumped NSW in the Grand Final.

However, that probably comes down to turnover of players (best players now over 18, etc).

That's a very big turnaround in the space of one year.

 

[jatz14]

WA absolutely smashed by Vic metro in the A final. Again partly due to player turnover, partly due I think to issues in WA women's footy.

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[jatz14]

That's a very big turnaround in the space of one year.

Approx 50% of each team. This result is more consistent with history than last year's as well.

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[Rob]

WA absolutely smashed by Vic metro in the A final. Again partly due to player turnover, partly due I think to issues in WA women's footy.

What are the issues? You'd expect Vic Metro to beat WA most times just from sheer population and playing numbers. 95-0 is an almighty smashing though.

 

[jatz14]

What are the issues? You'd expect Vic Metro to beat WA most times just from sheer population and playing numbers. 95-0 is an almighty smashing though.

I do not exactly know. What I do know is that in the time Vic has added enough clubs to create 2 extra divisions, WA has added 1 senior team in its main cimp, and basically has the same structure it did 3 years ago. The youth girls grand final last year, one of the teams had to borrow about 4 players from the other club to be able to put a side out.

WA has great growth figures, but where are they going? The WAWFL has less senior teams than QLD, and perhaps even SA now.

I have heard bad things about the running of the WAWFL, and the concern is that a group of really good female players make the women's footy scene look healthy, but is really masking some underlying problems.

They just seem really bad at turning Oz kickers and school footy players into youth girls and seniors.

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[telsor]

What are the issues? You'd expect Vic Metro to beat WA most times just from sheer population and playing numbers. 95-0 is an almighty smashing though.

Don't let the names fool you. Vic Metro/Country is a fairly even split as 'country' includes the outer suburbs of Melbourne, so the population represented by each (1/2 Vic, so ~3M) isn't that much more than WA (~2.5M).


95-0 is a surprising result though.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

The 4 Vic Foundation Sides need to be Melbourne, Footscray, St Kilda and Geelong.

It creates a more even foundation has a nice spread of areas of support and prevents it just being a dick measuring contest for the "Big 4"

North only miss out because they're are only 4 initial spots and the work the Bulldogs and Melbourne have already put in would be a travesty if those 2 sides didn't get in.

St Kilda are really pushing their campaign at the moment as well.

 

[The_Wookie]

13 teams have applied apparently
http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2016-05-04/womens-teams-in-demand

we know that Port Adelaide, Gold Coast, Sydney, Essendon and Hawthorn have all declined to participate. All the others, North included, must have applied.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

13 teams have applied apparently
http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2016-05-04/womens-teams-in-demand

we know that Port Adelaide, Gold Coast, Sydney, Essendon and Hawthorn have all declined to participate. All the others, North included, must have applied.

So 1 WA team and 4 Vic teams are going to be disappointed.

I'd take it that expanding it to 10 teams is most likely because the AFL don't want to tell Collingwood and Richmond to * off and can't choose between West Coast and Fremantle.

 

[telsor]

So 1 WA team and 4 Vic teams are going to be disappointed.

I'd take it that expanding it to 10 teams is most likely because the AFL don't want to tell Collingwood and Richmond to **** off and can't choose between West Coast and Fremantle.

I'd say the problem is more likely that they don't have a clear idea of their criteria, got too many bids that were better than they were expecting and don't really know how to sort them out.

 

[Kwality]

So 1 WA team and 4 Vic teams are going to be disappointed.

I'd take it that expanding it to 10 teams is most likely because the AFL don't want to tell Collingwood and Richmond to **** off and can't choose between West Coast and Fremantle.

Freo upping the ante, with the City of Cockburn & Curtin Uni in:

“Our bid proposes a new partnership model that will not only field a team in the new league but will also develop and grow women’s football in the State and invest in the broader community.
“It will bring new resources and new funding into the AFL.
“Our proposal engages two key existing partners of the club, Curtin University and the City of Cockburn. It proposes infrastructure, the hosting and promotion of matches, training facility support and the provision of specialist services in physiotherapy, exercise science, multimedia, sports psychology and player welfare.
“Curtin University would also supply education and sponsorship opportunities for the players to assist in gaining a 12-month commitment by the players to the team.
“We are proposing to establish Curtin’s Bentley campus as the home of elite and community women’s football in WA.”

The AFL wants to start with an eight-team competition, with momentum gathering for two sides to come from Perth.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/31558219/freo-womens-blueprint/

Ticks all the boxes for the social engineering group at AFL HQ .

 

[The_Wookie]

All of the stuff that the clubs are implementing as part of their bids should have been started a year or two before the competition began - ie. this grassroots and development stuff should kick off next year with the actual league not starting until a year or two after. This is all arse about.

 

[jatz14]

I'd say the problem is more likely that they don't have a clear idea of their criteria, got too many bids that were better than they were expecting and don't really know how to sort them out.

The thinking actually is, if the kpi is participation growth (it is), and not TV viewers or crowds, then going for the most teams in the most markets makes sense.

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[telsor]

All of the stuff that the clubs are implementing as part of their bids should have been started a year or two before the competition began - ie. this grassroots and development stuff should kick off next year with the actual league not starting until a year or two after. This is all arse about.

Yeah, but the AFL is all about the PR, and they want the good PR *NOW*.

Actually developing the women's game is just a bonus.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Some insight into St Kilda's plans on fully integrating a womens side into it's football department and the club as a whole.

Saints' grand plan for football restructure revealed

St Kilda's football department will be restructured – 14 posts dedicated to men's footy will expand to include women's footy responsibilities, and nine new female footy positions will be created – if the club wins a women's league licence.

Two full-time women's team chiefs would have key roles in a reimagined club set-up: a new director of coaching and head coach. St Kilda's pre-season training camps would also become mixed gender events for male and female playing lists in an array of related changes.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...e-revealed-20160504-golq0t.html#ixzz48LH0IXwK

The St Kilda #teamangelica social media campaign.

Thousands unite for bayside NWL team

More than 2,000 people and businesses have already signed a petition and thrown their support behind the #TeamAngelica campaign to have a St Kilda team in the new National Women’s League (NWL).

St Kilda mascot and talented young female footballer, Angelica, is fronting the digital and community campaign, desperate to fulfil her dream of playing for the Saints at the highest level.

Read more: http://www.saints.com.au/news/2016-05-11/thousands-unite-for-bayside-nwl-team

Celebrity endorsement:

http://www.saints.com.au/video/2016-05-11/jane-bunn-supports-teamangelica

 

[Redline]

Clubs are really going to create nine new positions at their club to assist with womens football? That is a very expensive model.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Clubs are really going to create nine new positions at their club to assist with womens football? That is a very expensive model.

Head Coach, Line-coaches, trainers ect.

 

[hamohawk1]

Where do clubs/ AFL expect the monetary returns to come for this league. I get that putting on certain exhibition games is a great spectacle but throwing all this money into a fully fledged league seems idiotic with some participating clubs already under financial duress. Even looking in the herald sun at the womens league results there is just a massive gap between the good sides and the poor performing ones. My proposal would be to grow the game in the net 2-3 years with a potential round robin tournament at 2018 and beyond. From there enough talent will be developed to have competitive teams and a competition that may not simply be a novelty after the first two rounds.

 

[jatz14]

Clubs are really going to create nine new positions at their club to assist with womens football? That is a very expensive model.

It is a short season, and they would be part time I would imagine, quite possible done in conjunction with the mens program. eg head physio of the womens program from Dec until the end of the womens season, then become part of the mens physio group for the rest of the mens season. I could see it as being quite an attractive proposition, as it gives someone the opportunity to show their ability to run a program. If you offered an extra 10K on top of the normal physio wage, its relatively cheap, and if you were a physio with ambition of progressing further, why wouldn't you jump at it.

Have a couple of full time positions coordinating everything. A bunch of part time positions that you could fill with people released for the duration from other positions. A few other positions designated specifically as duel role, and the whole thing can be far better resourced than any current womens team, but still be relatively cheap.

 

[CrowdedHouse]

The first marquee player has been announced.

Tayla Harris, the high-flying forward from Zillmere in Queensland, has been signed on a full-time contract to the Brisbane Lions.