- May 19, 2017
- AFL Club
- Other Teams
- All Blacks, Darebin Falcons
Never claimed to be an expert on the crowds at AFLW matches. But having been to at least one game most weeks both seasons (and re state level football, many VFLW, or it's equivalent, games over several years) I think I'm a better position than you to comment. Perhaps we leave that there then.Do you meet and greet every fan on their way in to the grounds at every game? I'm happy to admit I haven't attended, never will and am purely speculating, but you're not particularly forthcoming with what makes you a subject matter expert on the composition of AFLW crowds everywhere, and apparently "state level" football in general.
Allow me also to respond in kind - this isn't directed specifically at you WolfgangV but more so at those who think that being self-avowed AFLW supporters makes them fans who've transcended to a higher level of existence, shut the **** up yourselves and hop off your high horses. The only thing principally "different" about the women's game is the woeful standard. Are they not playing AFL football? Are they not also wandering around a big park (badly) kicking a Sherrin? What theoretical understanding am I missing here? What is it about women playing a sport that is so appealing to you? The only thing that we can agree on is that these women are being paid to play football at a significantly worse level than your average U16s competition. Until proven otherwise, you're all clearly sexists.
Also, you can't backdate the "cost" for the women's competition. You paid for a ticket to a game or membership to your club's AFL season... you got what you paid for. You want to go watch women play, go down to the local competition and watch them play. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference in standard anyway.
I can't speak for others of course, but I don't see myself on a high horse or having transcended to any higher level of existence simply because I hold the view that those who have more investment in, and knowledge of, the development and growth of women's football should be those who have the majority input into the future direction of the game. You stated that you don't think there should be any AFLW teams. I find it unfortunate that you hold that position (especially as a fellow Dees fan, in that regard we are both on a higher horse and have transcended fans from other clubs ), as by admitting as much, as I see it, you've excluded yourself from being able to make valid contributions to discussions concerned with the way forward for the AFLW. Why would anyone take seriously any health or medical advice from someone who wants them dead?
One more point, re your apparent concerns, frustration, annoyances with why anyone would want to attend a women's match. I know many people who love Aussie Rules, love the game. But they have real problems with the AFL and much of the crap that is unfortunately part and parcel of the men's game. For example, the idea of being able to go to a match, with or without kids, and have a reasonable expectation that it will be free of sexist, racist and homophobic abuse does have appeal. What happens on the field, the standard of play, is important. But it is not the only thing that is important to everyone.