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  1. BallaratBulldog

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  2. DogDays

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  3. SCRAY72

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    Typical AFL actually. No surprise.
    Basically lost Kearney for free.
     
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  4. Dogs_r_barking

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    Unbelievable, so over the AFL.
     
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  5. Doggy

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    just wait until 4 more teams come in next... 5th rounder!
     
  6. Oliver Gigacz

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    I cannot believe this, 3rd round pick for the best player in the league and a two time B&F.

    What are they basing this on? I can only think that they asses our list very highly. Even if this is true it’s fundamentally wrong and unfair.

    It’s looking like North will be a strong team.
     
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  7. Pugz89

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  8. VogonProsthetnic

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    AFL seem to have NFI what they doing here. It's a half draft half geographic zone system that allows clubs to snatch players by offering employment/ money bribes then arbitrarily compensates clubs based on an unknown formula.

    Seems to me that GWS and Brisbane get pillaged whilst Crows and Dockers lose no one whilst the rest of the comp gets weakened.

    Really the most sensible system would be to let teams recruit geographically and ask them to support footy in their zones but hey that would be too logical!
     
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  9. Testekill

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    Aw get ******. We lost the league B&F, two super important members of our premiership side and a young forward who can be anything.

    edit: In a normal league, Brutton wouldn't even be worth a third rounder on her own let alone O'Connor and Kearney. Now this pick would be basically pick 30 odd in the regular draft but even then that is maybe enough for Brutton but not players like Kearney or O'Connor.
     
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  10. Testekill

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    And the Cats get the first two picks anyways so the draft is just as compromised.
     
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    It’s absolutely ******* disgraceful.

    Where’s the reaction from Gordon? He has to come out swinging on this, we’ve received next to nothing for a b&f, league topping premiership player, for this year’s pick 11, and our ruck who was pick 12 in the draft the year before.

    What do we get in return? A third round ******* pick?
     
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  12. footscray1973

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    This needs to be highlighted - the AFLW is a bigger rort than the AFL. I can’t see how the AFL can justify the compensation on any level. And fwiw, hopefully Kearney gets hit by the Nathan Brown karma express, and North AFLW list all contract bubonic plague (I’ve been careful not to directly wish an injury on anyone, so all good, yeah?).
     
  13. dogwatch

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    No surprise. I don't think the AFL ever said that AFLW would follow the same rules and principles as the men's comp. In fact I'm surprised we are getting any compensations at all.

    That doesn't make it right of course. In fact it's totally wrong from our perspective but we have to realise that the AFL is working to a completely different set of objectives to the individual clubs. It wants a rapid development to a 14 side comp (or even 18?) and the comp has to be commercially viable/successful. Some clubs' aspirations and their hard work getting established are going to suffer collateral damage in making that happen.

    The danger for the AFL in steamrolling this through is that fans will become disaffected and turn their back on the women's code. I can anticipate some here on BF might feel that way.

    Now that is a downside that the AFL would be sensitive to, even if it doesn't care about the inherent unfairness of established clubs being pillaged by startup clubs. However I think it's only a low risk and the AFL would know that.

    So far I'd say the AFL would be delighted with the following the women's game has garnered in just two seasons. It would surely exceed their original expectations.
     
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  14. footscray1973

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    I’m one of those “low risk” losses dogwatch. After 2 years of attending games (commuting from Ballarat), as well as AFLW club memberships, I’ve told my family we will now be supporting local women’s (as we do with men’s) footy only. This is the trigger for me to abandon all support for aflw - neither league (nor unfortunately our club) will get a red cent out of me again to support aflw.
     
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  15. dogwatch

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    Fair comment f73.
    Unfortunately your support is probably seen as "expendable" in the bigger picture.
    It's wrong, I know, but that's the footy business.
     
  16. Mingo

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    It is absolutely ridiculous. To base compensation on what players have been paid in a scheme where the wages are broken to begin with. To see what we've lost compared to Collingwood and to compare our compensation, it beggars belief. It's bloody Callan Ward all over again.

    I'd definitely like to see the club react strongly on this but I don't think we will

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    Trampled by the majority.
    Ahh the marquee player or players in Collingwood's case.
    Makes the concept of compensation a disgrace.
    Losing Emma Kearney for nothing is a bit of a drag.
    They can all get stuffed because we still have our flag.
     
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  18. DogDays

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    Have we actually re-signed any players?


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  19. Dogs_r_barking

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    I think that Hope and Kearney are on the wrong side of the age ledger and will drop off, whilst we have a young talented list with Izzy and Katie, both who didn’t play in our premiership.

    The loss of our ruck is the hardest to replace.
     
  20. Dogs_r_barking

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    Amused at Norf Board, now think they should have been an inaugural club,, little Boris, tells me they shouldn’t even have a AFLW team.
     
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  21. Oliver Gigacz

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    Not officially, but expect all AFLW listed players on our VFLW list to re-sign.

    http://vfl.com.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/05/2018-VFLW-TEAM-LISTS-Game-and-goals-May-4.pdf

    The media got sent VFLW player lists in early May and Kearney, Bruton, O'Connor and Bannister were not included on the list, well before they were announced as leaving. So I expect most deals were done a while ago and they are just waiting for the right time to announce it.

    The only other premiership player missing from our VFLW list is Callinan and I have it on good word she is expected to stay as well but is playing for Darebin in the VFLW.
     
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  22. Mutt

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    Norf were an inaurgural club in AFLX - that should satisfy them....
     
  23. Pugz89

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    After looking at their squad, I feel like they're going all in on getting a flag in the next two yrs. Quite a few older types, and given more teams are coming in for the 2020 season, I wonder if some of them will be poached after just the one year.

    I was pretty worried early on, but I still think we'll be up there and I reckon the Crows will bounce back also. GWS seem to have escaped expansion safely which could have them in contention.
     
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  24. flipper83

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    Is there any point investing in developing young players if contracts are only one year? Especially if club's can offer paid employment outside the cap.
     
  25. Testekill

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    It does seem to have an element of all or nothing. Players like Molloy, Conti & Huntington have looked like experienced heads once they found their feet and I'd wager that the next crop is going to be just as impressive.
     
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