List Mgmt. Aisho Going Elsewhere

[Ketchup]

I'd err on the side of doing the leg work.

From my perspective our club currently has what you'd deem a terse relationship, at best, with 3 of the 4 northern clubs (at least it seems so from the outside). Yes we want our club to do well out of the deal and there supporters are about as useful as a hat full of arseholes, but I don't think it's healthy to be in the position we currently seem to be.

At the end of the day I'm happy to give Brisbane the win on this one to potentially mend a few bridges. You sometimes have to lose a few battles to win a war (the overall betterment of our club) and I'm happy for this to be one of those battles.

I understand the sediment but I don't quite understand where the bad bridge with Brisbane comes from. I generally think we gave it pretty easy with them last year RE:Beams. Yes we played hard ball. As you would for a contracted player who was your second best player and in the end they got him for a steal. If it was this year and not last wed be taking pick 2 to the draft table as well as pick 5 last year for beams.

As for targeting Aish, it would be irresponsible for us not to enquire about his availability such is player movement nowadays. So you can't be suggesting we back out of the Aish deal because they are inept at creating an environment that people want to stay in?

If we aren't backing out, and it may be biased, but I think compared to others and despite public perception we're generally good traders who try and compensate fairly. As it is with the Aish deal we have done everything they ask for. Second rounder and a player? Two second rounders? Now they want a second and a future which we will work on today. It's not like we're trying to palm off Gault and a third for Aish.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Aish is a quality player, at least he will be I think. We should be done with it and walk away.

Bringing in AT and Aish gives us years from quality young players.

 

[jjsmitty8]

I've had a gut feeling all week that we'll get him. I'm stoked we got Treloar, but I still want Aish. I can live with it if we don't though.

Hopefully getting the Treloar deal done is just another little enticement for James to want to come to us. I really hope he doesn't get persuaded to go to North.

 

[TradeDraft]

Any Aish Video Leaks tonight?

 

[Scodog10]

I understand the sediment but I don't quite understand where the bad bridge with Brisbane comes from. I generally think we gave it pretty easy with them last year RE:Beams. Yes we played hard ball. As you would for a contracted player who was your second best player and in the end they got him for a steal. If it was this year and not last wed be taking pick 2 to the draft table as well as pick 5 last year for beams.

As for targeting Aish, it would be irresponsible for us not to enquire about his availability such is player movement nowadays. So you can't be suggesting we back out of the Aish deal because they are inept at creating an environment that people want to stay in?

If we aren't backing out, and it may be biased, but I think compared to others and despite public perception we're generally good traders who try and compensate fairly. As it is with the Aish deal we have done everything they ask for. Second rounder and a player? Two second rounders? Now they want a second and a future which we will work on today. It's not like we're trying to palm off Gault and a third for Aish.

The academy system is on Ed and Newbold. That created a lot of resentment and is open to plenty of exploitation because of the 20% discount and picks getting reshuffled to left over value.

I don't know what the deal is or will be I'm just saying that whatever they ask for find it for them (within reason) to get past the angst that appears to currently exist.

FWIW we're good things to walk away from this trade period with each player we targeted and finding new homes for guys that wanted out so that's a tick. However I don't think we've covered ourselves in glory in the process of acquiring said talent.

 

[TradeDraft]

I've had a gut feeling all week that we'll get him. I'm stoked we got Treloar, but I still want Aish. I can live with it if we don't though.

Hopefully getting the Treloar deal done is just another little enticement for James to want to come to us. I really hope he doesn't get persuaded to go to North.

Also getting Treloar Today means Hine and Co can concentrate 100% on Aish Trade

 

[Temploar]

Any Aish Video Leaks tonight?

The only 'leak' we'll be getting is when we get him and I pee my pants.

 

[Bramax]

Aish is a quality player, at least he will be I think. We should be done with it and walk away.

Bringing in AT and Aish gives us years from quality young players.

Agreed. We have built the young talented squad we want so grab Aish for that little bit more top end talent.
Next year we arrive.
2017 we challenge

 

[gutsroy]

Really hope we can find an equitable trade, thought Aish was very good in his first season, very assured decision maker, good skills. Not overly confident though, still seems a bit of a way off. Can understand Brisbane's stance, why shouldn't they insist on a deal that sees them benefit, no idea whether it is part bluff or not. Fingers crossed.

 

[Kadog]

EVERY single player who nominated a club in this trade period has gotten to their destination of choice. Aish should be no different.

The clubs will work out a trade. I'm sure of it.

 

[Matt_352]

EVERY single player who nominated a club in this trade period has gotten to their destination of choice. Aish should be no different.

The clubs will work out a trade. I'm sure of it.

Cameron McCarthy and Chris Yarran say hi

 

[Kadog]

Cameron McCarthy and Chris Yarran say hi

Both still contracted players so they lose a little leverage. Point taken though.

 

[Anzacday]

I understand the sediment but I don't quite understand where the bad bridge with Brisbane comes from. I generally think we gave it pretty easy with them last year RE:Beams. Yes we played hard ball. As you would for a contracted player who was your second best player and in the end they got him for a steal. If it was this year and not last wed be taking pick 2 to the draft table as well as pick 5 last year for beams.

As for targeting Aish, it would be irresponsible for us not to enquire about his availability such is player movement nowadays. So you can't be suggesting we back out of the Aish deal because they are inept at creating an environment that people want to stay in?

If we aren't backing out, and it may be biased, but I think compared to others and despite public perception we're generally good traders who try and compensate fairly. As it is with the Aish deal we have done everything they ask for. Second rounder and a player? Two second rounders? Now they want a second and a future which we will work on today. It's not like we're trying to palm off Gault and a third for Aish.

Gee, sounds like you've hit rock bottom, you ok.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

FWIW we're good things to walk away from this trade period with each player we targeted and finding new homes for guys that wanted out so that's a tick. However I don't think we've covered ourselves in glory in the process of acquiring said talent.

Hard to argue with that. It's fantastic that for the first time since Ball and Jolly we've not only nailed our targets but targeted genuine quality. Which is fantastic, but much like most of our wins, we did it ugly.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Didn't the Bastinac trade already go through? I'm sure I heard it on the radio earlier. I could be wrong as I'm almost deliriously sick.

Not yet

 

[HeavyPop]

Not sure why Aish would choose North over us unless they are offering big money. I can't see North's list winning them a flag currently and they will probably need a large player turnover soon.

I'm not saying our list is guaranteed success either, but we've got more upside that a lot of other clubs.

 

[DWil6]

Hard to argue with that. It's fantastic that for the first time since Ball and Jolly we've not only nailed our targets but targeted genuine quality. Which is fantastic, but much like most of our wins, we did it ugly.

Welcome to trading. It's never pretty. It's just two teams trying to see what deal they can get. Pretty standard practice I think.

A few minor things from both sides of the trading table. Brisbane being steadfast and stating they "won't trade", GWS holding firm and drawing out our first pick for 2 years, a leaked welcome to Collingwood video, an operation that was cleared by the AFL and players association after our medical.

The beat up is mostly on here, I would think.


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[PicaBoo]

Without the emotions but let's move on from Aish. Get someone for a 2nd rnd 2015 and see how happy Brisbane will be when Aish goes to Norf in the draft and they are left empty-handed. If they come around, we can still trade GWS 2nd 2016 plus something. Even Oxley last minute

 

[partypie]

So is this North or Pickering holding them to ransom?

If true that's means they might have to take our 2 second round picks this year otherwise they don't have the points they were expecting from the North trade.

Both deals will get done in the end - it may take a 3rd party to get involved in pick swaps for this year / next year in one of the deals but they'll both be sorted by 2pm today.

 

[Matt_352]

Without the emotions but let's move on from Aish. Get someone for a 2nd rnd 2015 and see how happy Brisbane will be when Aish goes to Norf in the draft and they are left empty-handed. If they come around, we can still trade GWS 2nd 2016 plus something. Even Oxley last minute

They'll cave

 

[Matt_352]

Another thing respect for James choosing quality over more coin. Classy.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Aish doesn't look like he really cares what Brisbane end up with.

I'd be surprised if Aish actually unpacked his suitcase from 2 years, can't get out quick enough.

I'm happy if we end up with Aish and I'm also happy if NM pick up Aish for nothing.

 

[SApies]

Another thing respect for James choosing quality over more coin. Classy.

If we get Aish, thats 2 of the 3 new recruits coming to us for less cash than they could have got. Love seeing that! And with reports of North offering Aish $500k x 4 years thats huge! Speaks volumes about the kid, a 20 year old knocking that back.

 

[Matt_352]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Aish doesn't look like he really cares what Brisbane end up with.

I'd be surprised if Aish actually unpacked his suitcase from 2 years, can't get out quick enough.

I'm happy if we end up with Aish and I'm also happy if NM pick up Aish for nothing.

heck Norf I want James at Collingwood

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Chris Pelchin who is doing Trade analysis for SEN believes we will get Aish.
He believes 2 second round picks favours us, but as Aish has "checked out" from Brisbane he believes the deal will get done