Trump - Harris Presidential Election 2024

[Baltimore Jack]

Trump declares himself 'chief law enforcement officer' as he issues numerous pardons
President Trump on Tuesday exercised his pardon power, granting clemency to or commuting the sentences of nearly a dozen people convicted of crimes, including former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and junk bond pioneer Michael Milken.
Trump also referred to himself as the nation's “chief law enforcement officer,” a title typically reserved for the attorney general.

Trump declares himself 'chief law enforcement officer' as he issues numerous pardons

The president on Tuesday exercised his pardon power, granting clemency to or commuting the sentences of nearly a dozen people convicted of crimes.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Maggie5]

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I agree that politics is a mess. When hasn't it been? We have short memories.

Maggie 5-quoting that rag The Washington Post for "facts" about Trump is beyond a joke. Honest observers, regardless of their political leanings acknowledge that the New York Times and Washington Post (among many others) are rabidly leftist. They don't even pretend to be evenhanded. They hate Trump and are doing all in their power to remove him from the Oval Office. Deny this and you have zero credibility.

Have you posted anything about Bloomberg's comments about stopping and frisking blacks and throwing them up against a wall? Another example of the double standards in our media. If Trump has uttered those words their would have been an epic media meltdown, demands for his impeachment and a tidal wave of abuse directed at Trump. Bloomberg's racist words barely raised an eyebrow. Why? He hated Trump and is running as a Democrat.

You hate whataboutism? Above is a classic example of why it matters. A stark comparison of the two men and how they are treated by the bulk of the media.
I keep telling you, "whataboutism exposes hypocrisy, dishonesty and cant.

Read the article about Obama's corruption and you won't need me to tell you more but here are some other examples of Obama's corrupt acts and deceitful cover ups. The huge difference is that the leftist media worships Democrat presidents and rarely holds them to the same standards or scrutiny they do Republicans.


1. The IRS scandal – Democrats bemoaned the number of conservative political organizations that were being created to fight President Obama’s agenda. Through the media and letters to Congressional leaders, Democrats through their complaints demanded the IRS target conservative groups for greater scrutiny and harassment. They did this and led by Lois Lerner, destroyed evidence, including emails to cover up any obvious illegalities. President Obama and other Democrats bent over backward to protect IRS officials. Lerner was able to retire with a full pension. Nobody was fired. The only penalty the IRS suffered was having to pay a $50,000 in damages for their agency leaking information about the National Organization for Marriage to an organization supporting gay marriage, who then leaked it to the press.

2. The surveillance of Fox News reporter, James Rosen: The Obama administration, under direction from Attorney General Eric Holder. did the following to James Rosen:

• Named him a “criminal co-conspirator” under the Espionage Act of 1917
• Used that as a basis for monitoring his movements to and from The State Department
• Traced his phone calls
• Read his personal emails
• Described as a “flight risk” so he wouldn’t have to be informed of what was happening.

On that last one, it makes me question the veracity of people like Chuck Todd who tweeted President Trump’s tweets about the press were “un-American” but didn’t do the same when a professional colleague was named as a “criminal conspirator” for doing his job.

IRS admits Obama admin WEAPONIZED agency against pro-Israel groups… – The Right Scoop

therightscoop.com

A quote from the author

As I suggested this is not surprising for those of us who followed the IRS’s attack on conservative groups. But it’s also not surprising because many of us knew that Obama was also very much anti-Israel, despite his claims to the contrary. And this just proves it further.

What is stunning is that something so staggering as this this could happen to both pro-Israel groups and conservative groups by the Obama administration, and the media really never cared about it. But look at how they go on and on and on and on and on about Trump/Russia and all things Trump, and you’d think we’re living in a completely different universe.

El Chapo’s Capture Puts ‘Operation Fast and Furious’ Back in the Headlines | National Review

The long-forgotten Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal was Obama’s first, but now, with El Chapo’s capture, it’s back in the news.

www.nationalreview.com

Under “Operation Fast & Furious,” the Obama U.S. government became a de facto arms dealer to Mexican drug cartels and Islamist criminals.

What We Do Know about the Benghazi Attack Demands a Reckoning | National Review

The report on the House Select Committee on Benghazi reveals that Hillary Clinton refused to act on information that the facility was a death trap.

www.nationalreview.com

Yet another cover up by the Obama administration.
A quote from the article says it all.

The spin, though, launched immediately. Even as jihadists continued firing at Americans and torching American facilities, even as Ambassador Stevens was missing and feared dead or abducted, Clinton and Obama went to work crafting a fictional account of events. Shortly after 10 p.m., Clinton issued a statement depicting the ongoing violence as an overwrought response provoked by an anti-Muslim video.

Why don't you start an Obama thread? There you can post about his 16,000 lies and how he got to be so rich via his corruption.

This thread is All about Trump.

 

[magpie_marty]

'Humanitarian horror story': What is happening in Syria now?

It's the most devastating round of fighting yet in a war that has caused havoc in the past nine years. Why is Idlib under attack and what are the likely ramifications?

www.theage.com.au

So glad Trump has troops there guarding the oil refineries.

 

[domus]

I see Trump has been busy pardoning billionaires,crooks,liars and thieves-his kind of people.He also claimed that he is the chief law enforcement officer in the land,which is another blatant lie.The man could not tell the truth if his life depended on it.

Oh stop it. Obama pardoned more criminals by a street compared to Trump and most other presidents and I'll bet you don't give a damn.
Can you believe that horrible racist orange man actually pardoned a number of black people including this woman? What a creep!

Donald Trump Commutes Sentence For Black Woman After Kim K Visit

Donald Trump Commutes Sentence For Black Woman After Kim K Visit

blackamericaweb.com

Obama Granted Clemency Unlike Any Other President In History

In one more end-of-presidency act of clemency aimed at prisoners serving long sentences for drug-related offenses, President Obama announced Thursday that he is…

fivethirtyeight.com

 

[domus]

'Humanitarian horror story': What is happening in Syria now?

It's the most devastating round of fighting yet in a war that has caused havoc in the past nine years. Why is Idlib under attack and what are the likely ramifications?

www.theage.com.au

So glad Trump has troops there guarding the oil refineries.

Again- do you want to go down that path and compare Trump's record in being responsible for the deaths of innocent civilians as well as soldiers to that of Obama's, George Bush snr and jnr. or Bill Clinton? Give me a break. Your derangement over Trump is ridiculous. Imagine if Trump lied in order to start a war which killed hundreds of thousands of people! Oh wait a minute...that already happened and the man who is responsible for the lie and deaths is hailed as a hero now by Democrats and RINOs alike because he is a swamp creature and hates Trump.

 

[magpie_marty]

Again- do you want to go down that path and compare Trump's record in being responsible for the deaths of innocent civilians as well as soldiers to that of Obama's, George Bush snr and jnr. or Bill Clinton? Give me a break. Your derangement over Trump is ridiculous. Imagine if Trump lied in order to start a war which killed hundreds of thousands of people! Oh wait a minute...that already happened and the man who is responsible for the lie and deaths is hailed as a hero now by Democrats and RINOs alike because he is a swamp creature and hates Trump.

Would this be a swamp creature?

'Greed is good': Trump just pardoned the man who inspired Gordon Gekko

"Junk bond king" Michael Milken, once the highest-paid man in Wall Street history and an inspiration for Hollywood's villain trader Gordon Gekko, has been granted clemency.

www.theage.com.au

 

[magpie_marty]

Again- do you want to go down that path and compare Trump's record in being responsible for the deaths of innocent civilians as well as soldiers to that of Obama's, George Bush snr and jnr. or Bill Clinton? Give me a break. Your derangement over Trump is ridiculous. Imagine if Trump lied in order to start a war which killed hundreds of thousands of people! Oh wait a minute...that already happened and the man who is responsible for the lie and deaths is hailed as a hero now by Democrats and RINOs alike because he is a swamp creature and hates Trump.

Imagine if Trump lied!
Give me a break he lies every day of the week.
When was Trump honest?

 

[anshell]

Oh stop it. Obama pardoned more criminals by a street compared to Trump and most other presidents and I'll bet you don't give a damn.
Can you believe that horrible racist orange man actually pardoned a number of black people including this woman? What a creep!

Donald Trump Commutes Sentence For Black Woman After Kim K Visit

Donald Trump Commutes Sentence For Black Woman After Kim K Visit

blackamericaweb.com

Obama Granted Clemency Unlike Any Other President In History

In one more end-of-presidency act of clemency aimed at prisoners serving long sentences for drug-related offenses, President Obama announced Thursday that he is…

fivethirtyeight.com

Please explain to us all why a crook like Milken,who ripped off tens of thousands of people,deserved a pardon?Please explain to us why the corrupt Governor Blagojevich,who tried to sell off a senate seat to the highest bidder for his own personal gain,deserved to be pardoned?I'm sure if some other president did that you would be outraged,but when Trump does it you seem to think it's okay.Like all Trumpistas you resort to deflection and dissembling when confronted with Trump's corrupt behavior.Saying that Obama or someone else did the same is not a defence for his behavior,it's a cop out.If that's the best defence you can come up for your man then you've already lost the argument.

 

[domus]

Please explain to us all why a crook like Milken,who ripped off tens of thousands of people,deserved a pardon?Please explain to us why the corrupt Governor Blagojevich,who tried to sell off a senate seat to the highest bidder for his own personal gain,deserved to be pardoned?I'm sure if some other president did that you would be outraged,but when Trump does it you seem to think it's okay.Like all Trumpistas you resort to deflection and dissembling when confronted with Trump's corrupt behavior.Saying that Obama or someone else did the same is not a defence for his behavior,it's a cop out.If that's the best defence you can come up for your man then you've already lost the argument.

You just don't get it. I have never ranted on line or in public about Obama, Bush, Clinton or any other President no matter how I felt about them. Now I post regularly only to point out the sickeningly selective horror and offense expressed every time Trump passes wind or eats an ice cream. Enough. What you call deflection and dissembling is just a code word used by Trump haters to shield themselves from exposure to their own utter hypocrisy.

Just admit you hate Trump and it wouldn't matter what he did, you would continue to hate him. At least that would be honest. Clinton commuted terrorists sentences. How does a man who tried to make personal gain in a corrupt manner in politics get 14 years- three times the average sentence for rape? If Blagojevich got 14 years Biden, Bill and Hillary should get life. I provided Maggie5 with a list of corrupt action by Obama, yet I am sure you never jumped onto public forums to condemn him. Trump defending Stone has been framed as corruption. Another utter farce and inversion of the truth. Stone would not even be facing charges if not for the phony Russian Collusion circus which was a lie perpetrated upon the American people by the Democrats and media. As it is, he lied to Congress. McCabe, Comey, Brennan and Clapper are all on tape lying to Congress and not one of those creeps faced any charges let alone jail time. Then not only does Stone get sentences to jail-it is a nine year sentence! And you accuse Trump of corruption and tampering with the course of justice?

Democrat John Dean lied during the Watergate scandal and he served four months in prison and is now a regular on CNN!

 

[morax]

He'll be 79 before the election for christ sake, he won't even live long enough to see out two terms... and that's assuming he doesn't lose his marbles before then.

No one over 80 should be allowed to have any important position ever, the brain is highly deteriorated at that point. 80 year olds can't even drive and we want them to work all day every day running the country????

Surely this is a troll or you're very young. Bernie has his weaknesses but age isn't one of them.

 

[Kappa]

Surely this is a troll or you're very young. Bernie has his weaknesses but age isn't one of them.

If you think 80 year Olds are firing on all cylinders you clearly have no idea about how much aging effects the brain. He's likely to die of natural courses within the next 5-10 years ffs, the body starts to shut down at that age.

Just compare Trump now to Trump when he was 50..his mental capacity has seriously deteriorated

 

[morax]

If you think 80 year Olds are firing on all cylinders you clearly have no idea about how much aging effects the brain. He's likely to die of natural courses within the next 5 years ffs, the body starts to shut down at that age.

Just compare Trump now to Trump when he was 50..his mental capacity has seriously deteriorated

There is five members of the US senate who are over 80 and two are over 85. Pelosi is 82. I don't disagree that a person slows down but we are all different. Age isn't Bernie biggest weakness

 

[Kappa]

There is five members of the US senate who are over 80 and two are over 85. Pelosi is 82. I don't disagree that a person slows down but we are all different. Age isn't Bernie biggest weakness

Why on earth does it matter if other people are over 80? We aren't all different, we all get old and our bodies and brains deteriorate and then we die. Once you get to 80 you're very close to the end and the brain/body is spluttering along on fumes.

Where do you draw the line? Would you want a 90 year old working 7 days running the country? 85?

 

[morax]

Why on earth does it matter if other people are over 80? We aren't all different, we all get old and our bodies and brains deteriorate and then we die. Once you get to 80 you're very close to the end and the brain/body is spluttering along on fumes.

Where do you draw the line? Would you want a 90 year old working 7 days running the country? 85?

People age differently. Plenty still drive cars over 80. Other people matter because US politics has abundance of older citizens serving their country

I draw the line at a medical professional doing a health check and giving a assessment.

 

[anshell]

You just don't get it. I have never ranted on line or in public about Obama, Bush, Clinton or any other President no matter how I felt about them. Now I post regularly only to point out the sickeningly selective horror and offense expressed every time Trump passes wind or eats an ice cream. Enough. What you call deflection and dissembling is just a code word used by Trump haters to shield themselves from exposure to their own utter hypocrisy.

Just admit you hate Trump and it wouldn't matter what he did, you would continue to hate him. At least that would be honest. Clinton commuted terrorists sentences. How does a man who tried to make personal gain in a corrupt manner in politics get 14 years- three times the average sentence for rape? If Blagojevich got 14 years Biden, Bill and Hillary should get life. I provided Maggie5 with a list of corrupt action by Obama, yet I am sure you never jumped onto public forums to condemn him. Trump defending Stone has been framed as corruption. Another utter farce and inversion of the truth. Stone would not even be facing charges if not for the phony Russian Collusion circus which was a lie perpetrated upon the American people by the Democrats and media. As it is, he lied to Congress. McCabe, Comey, Brennan and Clapper are all on tape lying to Congress and not one of those creeps faced any charges let alone jail time. Then not only does Stone get sentences to jail-it is a nine year sentence! And you accuse Trump of corruption and tampering with the course of justice?

Democrat John Dean lied during the Watergate scandal and he served four months in prison and is now a regular on CNN!

More deflection from you.I noticed you couldn’t defend Trump’s pardoning of these criminals.You just deflected to the other side of politics and tried to project Trump’s failings onto them,which is a common trait of Trumpistas like you.

You say I hate Trump.Well yes,I can’t stand anyone who lies and cheats to the extent that he does.You say that you don’t rant against Clinton and Obama,yet all of your posts seem to end in scurrilious attacks on them in order to take attention away from your man Trump.

Everything you said in your last post confirms what I said in my previous post.If you want to continue to support a lying thieving narcissist like that then good luck to you,but don’t expect the rest of us to agree with you.The truth still matters to most people,the real truth that is,not the propaganda that is created in the Trump bubble that you seem so addicted to.

 

[Kappa]

People age differently. Plenty still drive cars over 80. Other people matter because US politics has abundance of older citizens serving their country

I draw the line at a medical professional doing a health check and giving a assessment.

Yes some people over 80 still drive cars, and they have poor eye sight, poor hearing, terrible reflexes and make our roads far less safe.

A standard gp isn't going to say shit unless the president has obvious alzeihmers. I don't know how you could think a guy who will be 83 and president could work out well? It's a terribly hard job where you often have to work 365 days a year, woken up in the middle of the night for important information, constant travel ect ect.

 

[morax]

Yes some people over 80 still drive cars, and they have poor eye sight, poor hearing, terrible reflexes and make our roads far less safe.

A standard gp isn't going to say shit unless the president has obvious alzeihmers. I don't know how you could think a guy who will be 83 and president could work out well? It's a terribly hard job where you often have to work 365 days a year, woken up in the middle of the night for important information, constant travel ect ect.

Ok Kappa.

 

[domus]

More deflection from you.I noticed you couldn’t defend Trump’s pardoning of these criminals.You just deflected to the other side of politics and tried to project Trump’s failings onto them,which is a common trait of Trumpistas like you.

You say I hate Trump.Well yes,I can’t stand anyone who lies and cheats to the extent that he does.You say that you don’t rant against Clinton and Obama,yet all of your posts seem to end in scurrilious attacks on them in order to take attention away from your man Trump.

Everything you said in your last post confirms what I said in my previous post.If you want to continue to support a lying thieving narcissist like that then good luck to you,but don’t expect the rest of us to agree with you.The truth still matters to most people,the real truth that is,not the propaganda that is created in the Trump bubble that you seem so addicted to.

More waffle. You didn't refute any of the corruption I mentioned of those who preceded Trump and you said I didn't defend Trump's actions in commuting prisoner's sentences when I did just that! Did you actually read my post? The truth is clearly not important to you. The left wing, Trump hating media has been proven wrong on every issue they have jumped on whether it be the Russian Collusion hoax, the Brett Kavanaugh witch hunt, the impeachment sham, the economy, Avanatti's credibility- they said he was a big chance to be the Democrat candidate to take on and beat Trump (now he will rot in jail for years), Trump's foreign policy (we've been on the brink of WW3 at least three times) and countless other issues. The same can be said for those who continue to throw cheap, lazy, uninformed insults at Trump and those who support him.

 

[morax]

More waffle. You didn't refute any of the corruption I mentioned of those who preceded Trump and you said I didn't defend Trump's actions in commuting prisoner's sentences when I did just that! Did you actually read my post? The truth is clearly not important to you. The left wing, Trump hating media has been proven wrong on every issue they have jumped on whether it be the Russian Collusion hoax, the Brett Kavanaugh witch hunt, the impeachment sham, the economy, Avanatti's credibility- they said he was a big chance to be the Democrat candidate to take on and beat Trump (now he will rot in jail for years), Trump's foreign policy (we've been on the brink of WW3 at least three times) and countless other issues. The same can be said for those who continue to throw cheap, lazy, uninformed insults at Trump and those who support him.

This read like Trumps twiiter feed or a episode of Hannity

 

[Kappa]

Ok Kappa.

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Brilliant response, can't come up with any intelligent reply so resort to memes and personal attacks... Very Trump-like actually!

Sorry dude you are right! 80 year Olds should definitely be in charge of countries, the brain is still as sharp as ever! Who cares what science says? Amiright

 

[morax]

Brilliant response, can't come up with any intelligent reply so resort to memes and personal attacks... Very Trump-like actually!

Sorry dude you are right! 80 year Olds should definitely be in charge of countries, the brain is still as sharp as ever! Who cares what science says? Amiright

Kappa, it was just a pic from the Simpsons...

I'd love to spend the night with a back and forth with you but i'm at work until 5 am and need to concentrate. Now, you have a lovely evening and all the best.

Until next time

 

[Kappa]

Kappa, it was just a pic from the Simpsons...

I'd love to spend the night with a back and forth with you but i'm at work until 5 am and need to concentrate. Now, you have a lovely evening and all the best.

Until next time

Hopefully you're still doing that job when your 80

 

[anshell]

More waffle. You didn't refute any of the corruption I mentioned of those who preceded Trump and you said I didn't defend Trump's actions in commuting prisoner's sentences when I did just that! Did you actually read my post? The truth is clearly not important to you. The left wing, Trump hating media has been proven wrong on every issue they have jumped on whether it be the Russian Collusion hoax, the Brett Kavanaugh witch hunt, the impeachment sham, the economy, Avanatti's credibility- they said he was a big chance to be the Democrat candidate to take on and beat Trump (now he will rot in jail for years), Trump's foreign policy (we've been on the brink of WW3 at least three times) and countless other issues. The same can be said for those who continue to throw cheap, lazy, uninformed insults at Trump and those who support him.

So you defend Trump’s decision to pardon a serious criminal like Milken?Well that’s good to know.At least everyone here knows what your standards are and they’re not high.If anyone is waffling it’s you,using straw man arguments to attack people who are totally irrelevant to the argument and justifying Trump’s criminality.

As I said,everything you have said about this issue is a deflection,designed to take the heat off Trump.You Trumpistas really can not deal with the truth.Anyone who dares to criticise the dear leader is dismissed as a hater,or shock,horror,part of the dreaded left wing media.I’d like to see where this so called left wing media is,but unfortunately it only exists in the fevered minds of Trumpistas like you.It’s just another excuse to avoid scrutiny for your dear leader.

 

[HeathySure]

More waffle. You didn't refute any of the corruption I mentioned of those who preceded Trump and you said I didn't defend Trump's actions in commuting prisoner's sentences when I did just that! Did you actually read my post? The truth is clearly not important to you. The left wing, Trump hating media has been proven wrong on every issue they have jumped on whether it be the Russian Collusion hoax, the Brett Kavanaugh witch hunt, the impeachment sham, the economy, Avanatti's credibility- they said he was a big chance to be the Democrat candidate to take on and beat Trump (now he will rot in jail for years), Trump's foreign policy (we've been on the brink of WW3 at least three times) and countless other issues. The same can be said for those who continue to throw cheap, lazy, uninformed insults at Trump and those who support him.

you are watching way too much fox/sky/murdoch media

 

[Black_White]

Trump never fails to entertain.
After the pardons of heinous white collar criminals yesterday, today it is revealed that he offered Assange a pardon if he publicly announced that the Russians had nothing to do with the Clinton email leaks.
Just how much does this guy owe the Ruskies?