All Divisions General NFNL Discussion Thread

[NorthernBastard]

In supers, the women teams all play at the one venue and they rotate the venue each fortnight which works quite well.

The women's footballers need to be treated with similar respect to the mens, and play a full season home & away.

 

[roosterslife]

The women's footballers need to be treated with similar respect to the mens, and play a full season home & away.

Yeh agree. You would lose a hell of a lot of players if it went to fortnightly. I like the idea of Friday night and Saturday twilight for the women. Would get a lot more people stay after the seniors and also gives the women Saturday night and Sunday free.

 

[10571z]

Broadford netball entering the league. Let’s hope the footy club doesn’t get any ideas.

 

[Hornberger]

Broadford netball entering the league. Let’s hope the footy club doesn’t get any ideas.

"The NFNL advise that Broadford will not field any football teams in the NFNL competition in 2024."

Seems like a strong hint that a move might be on the cards for 2025.

 

[Max Leader]

"The NFNL advise that Broadford will not field any football teams in the NFNL competition in 2024."

Seems like a strong hint that a move might be on the cards for 2025.

End up have more travel than the VAFA

 

[Hornberger]

Broadford seeks further advice after Kyabram Football Netball League rejection - The North Central Review

Broadford Football Netball Club, BFNC, is seeking further advice on its next steps after a bid to join the Kyabram District Football Netball League, KDFNL, was rejected. A majority of KDFNL clubs voted last night to not allow Broadford into the competition for season 2024. BFNC applied to move...

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Broadford football goes into recess - The North Central Review

Photos included were taken at various matches during the 2023 OEFNL season. Broadford Football Netball Club’s, BFNC, football department will go into recess in 2024 while the club explores options for its netball teams to enter a metropolitan-based winter competition. Financial members...

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Broadford tried and failed to move the Kyabram District Football Netball League at the end of last year, before announcing that they are going into recesss

BFNC sought to leave the Outer East Football Netball League, OEFNL, when it emerged outcomes from the league’s structural review would results in a larger salary cap and further travel.

BFNC opted for the KDFNL over the Northern Football Netball League, NFNL, because netball and football are played on the same day unlike the NFNL where netball is separate on Friday nights.

Ms Welch said the NFNL indicated that accepting BFNC’s football teams in 2024 was unachievable, but could be explored for 2025.

Having joined the netball competition, I think they will almost certainly apply to join the football competition.

 

[Champ or Chump]

End up have more travel than the VAFA

You wish Maxy ...... but easier to pay for petrol (or ev) if you get a few $$ for a kick on the weekend ;-)

Chump.

 

[10571z]

"The NFNL advise that Broadford will not field any football teams in the NFNL competition in 2024."

Seems like a strong hint that a move might be on the cards for 2025.

Zero chance they’d be voted in.

Rabble for ages
Dont even have a side
Travel is insane.

Absolutely no reason

 

[Thunder1]

Zero chance they’d be voted in.

Rabble for ages
Dont even have a side
Travel is insane.

Absolutely no reason

Mernda to reservoir - 24 mins
Mernda to Broadford - 38 mins

 

[Big Unit 30]

End up have more travel than the VAFA

A card to keep your burgeoning match payments down then?

 

[10571z]

Mernda to reservoir - 24 mins
Mernda to Broadford - 38 mins

Their second closet game is 38 mins?

They also don’t have a football side. Why would you take on a club with complete uncertainty of whether they’ll get a side together?

 

[Thunder1]

Their second closet game is 38 mins?

They also don’t have a football side. Why would you take on a club with complete uncertainty of whether they’ll get a side together?

Kilmore, Kinglake
Not saying they should get in but the travel thing is so over rated
Let’s see how Lalor and Reservoir go this year, hopefully they survive

 

[illumineer]

We don’t need another team in that will be a team that gets pumped week in week out. We are hopefully moving on from that and bringing quality teams in. There is absolutely no need for Broadford if we want to improve the standard of competition.

 

[bertybeetle]

Mernda to reservoir - 24 mins
Mernda to Broadford - 38 mins

Stars to Broadford - 58mins
Stars to Kinglake - 1hr 6mins
Stars to Kilmore - 54mins

Reservoir to Kilmore- 44mins
Reservoir to Kinglake - 57mins
Reservoir to Broadford - 49mins

HW to Broadford - 1hr
HW to Kinglake - 58mins
HW to Kilmore - 54mins

OEC to kilmore - 57mins
OEC to kinglake - 33mins
OEC to broadford - 1hr 1 mins

Ivanhoe to broadford - 1hr 3 mins
Ivanhoe to Kilmore - 59mins
Ivanhoe to kinglake - 58mins

OP to kinglake - 47mins
OP to broadford - 49mins
OP to kilmore - 44mins

Kinglake to broadford - 55mins
Kinglake to kilmore - 50mins

Epping to Broadford 41mins
Mernda to Broadford 38mins
Lalor to Broadford 43mins
Kilmore to broadford - 12mins

Not sure many teams would love that Broadford will add another hike on a Saturday with 2 hours worth of driving either side of games being played. Makes for a long Saturday

 

[Max Leader]

Stars to Broadford - 58mins
Stars to Kinglake - 1hr 6mins
Stars to Kilmore - 54mins

Reservoir to Kilmore- 44mins
Reservoir to Kinglake - 57mins
Reservoir to Broadford - 49mins

HW to Broadford - 1hr
HW to Kinglake - 58mins
HW to Kilmore - 54mins

OEC to kilmore - 57mins
OEC to kinglake - 33mins
OEC to broadford - 1hr 1 mins

Ivanhoe to broadford - 1hr 3 mins
Ivanhoe to Kilmore - 59mins
Ivanhoe to kinglake - 58mins

OP to kinglake - 47mins
OP to broadford - 49mins
OP to kilmore - 44mins

Kinglake to broadford - 55mins
Kinglake to kilmore - 50mins

Epping to Broadford 41mins
Mernda to Broadford 38mins
Lalor to Broadford 43mins
Kilmore to broadford - 12mins

Not sure many teams would love that Broadford will add another hike on a Saturday with 2 hours worth of driving either side of games being played. Makes for a long Saturday

Since when is the travel time between HW and Ivanhoe 3 minutes. Maybe at 2.00am.

 

[Champ or Chump]

Since when is the travel time between HW and Ivanhoe 3 minutes. Maybe at 2.00am.

Maybe you travel a different route Maxy?

All that said, these are not difficult road trips- cruise control and enjoy the scenery! Try Ivanhoe to Mt Eliza and then come back via Punt Road on a Saturday night with games on at AAMI an the MCG! This year we got back on the Sunday it took that long!

Chump.

 

[hfchfc]

Stars to Broadford - 58mins
Stars to Kinglake - 1hr 6mins
Stars to Kilmore - 54mins

Reservoir to Kilmore- 44mins
Reservoir to Kinglake - 57mins
Reservoir to Broadford - 49mins

HW to Broadford - 1hr
HW to Kinglake - 58mins
HW to Kilmore - 54mins

OEC to kilmore - 57mins
OEC to kinglake - 33mins
OEC to broadford - 1hr 1 mins

Ivanhoe to broadford - 1hr 3 mins
Ivanhoe to Kilmore - 59mins
Ivanhoe to kinglake - 58mins

OP to kinglake - 47mins
OP to broadford - 49mins
OP to kilmore - 44mins

Kinglake to broadford - 55mins
Kinglake to kilmore - 50mins

Epping to Broadford 41mins
Mernda to Broadford 38mins
Lalor to Broadford 43mins
Kilmore to broadford - 12mins

Not sure many teams would love that Broadford will add another hike on a Saturday with 2 hours worth of driving either side of games being played. Makes for a long Saturday

Who cares! You do the trip once a year as a visitor

Make it worthwhile, get a team bus, and stop for dinner and a few beers on the way home

 

[Mappa]

Maybe you travel a different route Maxy?

All that said, these are not difficult road trips- cruise control and enjoy the scenery! Try Ivanhoe to Mt Eliza and then come back via Punt Road on a Saturday night with games on at AAMI an the MCG! This year we got back on the Sunday it took that long!

Chump.

It actually took me longer to get to Melbourne High than it did to get to Kilmore (coaching U17s) last years Chump. I'll happily take the Hume Highway and cruise control any day.

We hired a bus a few times for the trip to Peninsula though. That was pretty fun.

 

[Champ or Chump]

It actually took me longer to get to Melbourne High than it did to get to Kilmore (coaching U17s) last years Chump. I'll happily take the Hume Highway and cruise control any day.

We hired a bus a few times for the trip to Peninsula though. That was pretty fun.

We took JQ75 Mappa

Chump

 

[10571z]

Who cares! You do the trip once a year as a visitor

Make it worthwhile, get a team bus, and stop for dinner and a few beers on the way home

Impacts clubs financially. Supporters wont travel that far.

Won’t happen. If they had a good established footy program it would be considered.. not as a brand new side that’s fallen over twice in the last 5 years.

 

[Denny Crane]

From HS.

Why the VAFA is considering a 28-day return to play rule for players who have suffered a concussion​

The VAFA is weighing up massive changes to the way it deals with concussion for its’ 13,000 participants. It could be a watershed moment in grassroots football.

A potential change to football’s concussion protocols is set to shape every major competition in metropolitan Melbourne.
Footy’s largest senior competition, the Victorian Amateur Football Association with about 13,000 participants, is investigating whether to adopt a 21-day stand down period and a 28-day return-to-play rule for players who have suffered a concussion.

If adopted, it’s almost certain to be introduced ahead of the season which starts in April.

The VAFA board this week was given an “information session … of the issues presently at large” by chief executive Jason Reddick.

“This is a serious matter that we are considering and exploring,’’ Reddick said.

“I’m having conversations with people in and around the industry about it, with experts, and we’re just trying to gather as much info as we can.”

No decision has yet been made by the VAFA, but it’s believed there’s a comfortableness around adopting the AIS decree that there be a three-week stand down for community sports people who suffer concussion playing collision sports.

In effect, the player would miss three matches and be available for selection seven days after that.

There are issues, however, to what would be a momentous decision.

The VAFA would need universal agreement from other metro leagues, including the Essendon District, Northern and Eastern football leagues for example, so that players wouldn’t leave the VAFA competition for leagues who would maintain the current AFL position of a minimum 12-day stand down.

The VAFA has been told the AFL, which is led by former Old Xaverians premiership player Andrew Dillon, is reviewing its concussion policies.

Another issue is the fear players wouldn’t report concussions outside of the obvious clinical concussions to ensure they are not on the sidelines for a month.

For instance, at the start of last season, the VAFA asked its clubs to list and report concussion numbers. What was a worrying amount of numbers in the first few rounds of the season became almost zero late in the season, as players were intent on being available for finals matches.

That was to avoid the current minimum 12-day policy, so the cover-up to avoid missing three matches could lead to players lying in epidemic numbers all season to ensure they are available to play.

Reddick acknowledged there would be backlash if a 28-day stand-down rule was enforced, and was resolute that the VAFA had a responsibility to the players and clubs to “pursue best practices”.

“Absolutely, it’s high on our agenda,” he said. “We have been working with Monash University for five years now on a concussion research program, so we’re fully invested in player safety and welfare.

“The amateur ethos, which sets us apart from most other community clubs, is to provide a safe environment and that’s paramount for us.

“Yes, we’re aware of the recommendation from the AIS and we’ve raised that with the AFL which is, as I understand it, considering it.

“It’s not just our league, the other metropolitan leagues have all said, well, what’s the AFL stance on this?

“At the end of the day, we want best practice for the safety of our players and we want to make that happen.

“Unfortunately, we don’t have the same resources as the AFL or the AIS to do all the research ourselves, so we’re reliant a fair bit on these leading institutions.”

Reddick says the work with Monash has been “terrific” for the league.

“Everyone’s on the same page to try to determine how we can eliminate the concussion incidents and secondly returning to play and making sure that is best be practice so we’re not putting anyone at risk,” he said.

The Ammos boss wasn’t opposed to the State Government taking a position on concussion.

“Our focus is always about following best practice and from my way of thinking, the government certainly has a role to play in determining what that is, along with the controlling leagues who are at the coalface,” Reddick said.

“I’m not saying who should make the overall call, but we should bring everyone together who has vested interest in the welfare of our community.

“That’s government, the sporting leagues, the community leagues and the medical profession.”

The presentation to the VAFA board meeting on Tuesday night was basically to provide “awareness” of the issues at play, Reddick said.

In the end, he will make the recommendation to the board whether to adopt the proposed concussion policies.

He said other metro leagues had also raised the return-to-play issue with the AFL. “The AFL will come back and advise us in due course about whether they adopt the recommendation or tell us otherwise.”

Asked if the VAFA would ignore the AFL’s position if, in fact, it remained at a minimum 12-day stand down, Reddick said: “If the evidence is compelling, and we understand what is happening in the UK and overseas (but) if the AFL decides not to change, do we consider that the evidence is so overwhelming that we should change?

“That’s what the information gathering is about at this stage, to form a position.

“We’re not there yet.

“We engage closely with the AFL on this matter, speak to them and understand their philosophy and their reasoning, and other metro leagues as well, because we don’t want to be one out on this.

“But we don’t want to ignore compelling evidence to the contrary.”

He stressed Ammo clubs were certainly “concerned” about the player welfare.

“In community, there’s some players who are concerned about it and some who aren’t either, and sometimes you have got take that decision away from them in their own best interests.”

He agreed a 28-day stand down period would be a watershed decision for metropolitan football.

“For community sport full stop,” he said. “It’s just not AFL sport, it’s every sport. And, again, it’s about what’s in the best interests for our players.

“We don’t want to ruin the rest of their lives for short-term decisions.”

 

[NorthernBastard]

Would be interesting to see how this would play out in an environment with match payments - young bloke on $500 a game might try and work around these protocols to get his $$$'s

 

[10571z]

Would be interesting to see how this would play out in an environment with match payments - young bloke on $500 a game might try and work around these protocols to get his $$$'s

There would be a lot of undiagnosed concussions. Imagine getting one 3 weeks from a GF and being expected not to play.

 

[nosecondprize]

Just like match payments, you simply can't control the concussion protocols.
Most of the trainers at clubs aren't qualified to diagnose a concussion for starters.
Players and coaches will find a way around it.
Just go to your local GP and get a certificate to say there was no concussion. They will give you anything to get you in and out the door quickly.

Only way it would work is if the actual club declared on the match report that a player was concussed on the day. Then it's easy and that player doenst play for 28 days. But how many will actually do that?

 

[roosterslife]

Just like match payments, you simply can't control the concussion protocols.
Most of the trainers at clubs aren't qualified to diagnose a concussion for starters.
Players and coaches will find a way around it.
Just go to your local GP and get a certificate to say there was no concussion. They will give you anything to get you in and out the door quickly.

Only way it would work is if the actual club declared on the match report that a player was concussed on the day. Then it's easy and that player doenst play for 28 days. But how many will actually do that?

Correct and it puts so much pressure on these part time trainers who get paid peanuts.

Can you imagine a Sam Lloyd getting head knock in a prelim. You reckon Bundoora would have said you have to sit it out? Not a chance in hell