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Good news.
Highlighted this comment as all the others were feckless little shits moaning
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Good news.
Highlighted this comment as all the others were feckless little shits moaning
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I love you too catscollector thanks for the x’s
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What are they moaning about? Too many beds now?
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I get it TBH. If it gets really hardcore here I know I'm going to struggle.
And if it went on for ages I don't even wanna think about it.
That ain't livin Gary!
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Oh ok. Weird.
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Who knows why. People just love to moan.
mostly:
- Nationalise them
- Private hospitals profit off suffering
- How much did we give them for this deal? (Kick back inferred)
- A deal for the boys.
Seriously STFU. Our health system is being overrun so much so that someone I work with who is also a student nurse has been told to be ready as they’ll be called in to help soon enough. So what? They spent 1.3bn to secure private hospital beds and staff to alleviate the public system in a crisis... They will soon be spending 5bn per WEEK to subsidise the wages of millions of Australians. Some ******* perspective is needed.
Even this meaningful article helping explain how we will traverse this economically has got blithering idiots carrying on about big business tax, mining revenue and franking credits (the last one I disagree on but the other two are fair enough). Sure we could and should be doing more to collect tax from big corporations but time and place. Let’s get through this and in 12-24 months time when this is over then have reasoned debates on those issues.
Chances are those moaning about how we will pay for it are the same people sitting on their couch right now soon to get a fortnightly payment from the government. Literal definition atm of biting the hand that feeds you. Could save a billion culling the ABC (joking of course).
Really does grind my gears. Up to 6 million could be affected in the next few months and morons are politicising our government literally ensuring we have food on the table and a roof over our heads for the next 6 months. Seriously?!?
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Yeah I agree. Gotta do what has to be done to get through it. & they're pretty much doing it.
Probs because "stimulus packages don't work rararara" for years people see it as hypocritical.
But f**k it obviously has to be done.
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People like to bitch.
Mostly it's Karen's on Facebook that are so unsatisfied and unhappy with their shoddy marriage that they need to spew their negativity all over the internet.
Mostly it's Karen's on Facebook that are so unsatisfied and unhappy with their shoddy marriage that they need to spew their negativity all over the internet.
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The Karen's on Facebook that usually like to brag about they made their kids lunches today (Wow! Kids eat food. Who knew?) and how much they like wine.
Oh yeah and the odd screen smashing inducing inspirational quote.
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Pretty funny - had a story about the first stimulus payments hitting bank accounts on the news, and ScoMo was saying he hopes people spend the money helping Australian businesses out instead of keeping the money in the bank.
I had to buy a headset with a mic from Big W so I can work from home, and walking through Westfield to pick it up after work, the only outlets that were open were Big W, Chemist Warehouse, Coles, Target, Dymocks and the $2 shop next to the Nut Shack.
Which Australian businesses do you propose they spend their money at ScoMO? Most of them have been temporarily closed down.
I had to buy a headset with a mic from Big W so I can work from home, and walking through Westfield to pick it up after work, the only outlets that were open were Big W, Chemist Warehouse, Coles, Target, Dymocks and the $2 shop next to the Nut Shack.
Which Australian businesses do you propose they spend their money at ScoMO? Most of them have been temporarily closed down.
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Yeah! Get in here......oh wait. Hey!
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Guessing it's not longer fries & instead they'll be asking, 'Would you like bread & milk with that?'
McDonald's will be offering milk and bread to drive-thru customers across the nation, 24 hours a day.
From Wednesday, the fast-food giant will be selling milk and bread via drive-thru and takeaway services.
“In addition to our usual Macca’s menu, customers will also be able to pick up two or three-litre bottles of full cream or skim milk, as well as packs of English muffins and gourmet bread rolls,” a McDonald's Australia spokesperson told 10 daily.
McDonald's will be offering milk and bread to drive-thru customers across the nation, 24 hours a day.
From Wednesday, the fast-food giant will be selling milk and bread via drive-thru and takeaway services.
“In addition to our usual Macca’s menu, customers will also be able to pick up two or three-litre bottles of full cream or skim milk, as well as packs of English muffins and gourmet bread rolls,” a McDonald's Australia spokesperson told 10 daily.
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The governments role as they have played it in this is fine, anyone bitching about that is seriously far gone.
I do however have a lot of time for criticisms of private hospitals themselves, as having effectively held a gun to the governments head until a favourable deal was done - and this is an inescapable consequence of any private health system, which has to act in its own self interest to survive (and over the next few months we are much better off with it than without).
What will be very telling will be the lessons that people take out of this crisis and how that shapes future policy. I would hope that some provisions are put in place to consider what could be done to minimise the risk of a deal such as this not being struck/breaking down if we were in a similar position again.
130 billion stimulus for the business to keep workers going is good.
How Australians pay for it next generations prob
This was required across the board though.....
You don't think the government already knows the playbook?
Expect a GST rate of 15%-20% at the next budget.
Expect the selling off of Aussie Post, the end of the ABC, etc.
Expect the stripping of Medicare.
Expect the stripping of a basic wage.
A stimulus is needed, but this is pure upper and middle-class welfare to buy the next election and set up the IPA agenda.
Why the f*** should an AFL player be getting government handouts when a mum looking after her disabled kid gets zip?
Why should a couple, still earning $80,000 a year get a hand-out, when a guy unable to get a job for the past 5 years due to mental illness, gets zip?
Why should an employer running a cafe down the road who never pays award wages and owns 4 houses get a handout? As if he'll be handing his $1500 per employee's wage.
The corruption will be huge - it's built into the system.
It should be asset-tested, it should be run through the tax-system, it should be fair.
It's not for a reason.
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True (though there will be more than one pandemic now - experts are now predicting 2 more of the strand far more deadly in the future), but it's naive to think governments all over the world are not moving the chess pieces around, working out what works for them in the mid-to-long term.
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This guy is a digital artist who I bought a course off. Watched a few of his digital art YouTubes and this came up on my feed today. 37 years old and became very ill. NSFW (language).
Ray Donovan
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They predicted this "pandemic" years ago. This should serve as a lesson to the world that they need to work together and have plans in place for the next pandemic.
Of course all the governments are moving chess peices around to suit themselves. That's what they do.
Imagine being "socialist" like China or Russian under Putin.
Democracy under trump, bloke literally built a wall for no reason.
I've heard what's happening in countries like the philliphines Marshall law. Stay at home no money.
Indonesia, India etc. Do you think those guys are shelling out stimulus packages.
Those governments are not a democracy.
Yes I understand your point and I realise what will happen with all these tax breaks etc spending 500bill. Guaranteed people are going to misuse and abuse the system.
It happened everyday before the pandemic, so I expect no different now.
But, will it help a lot of genuine people at the same time. I know families with kids are hurting millions losing jobs.
If you go through income and asset test everyone that walks through the door. It would take months to process claims. So do we hurt to many good people in desperate need over people that will abuse the system
My hope is it galvanises good people and highlights morally poor individuals who want to "benefit" from a crisis.
I think everybody knows Australians are going to feel this for a long long time financially to recoup this money we are going to be hit sideways. Maybe you and me would survive without a stimulus find a way. What about the next bloke? or the single mother etc etc
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Don't get tripped up in the reality people's behaviour isn't driven by it. If people feel they are getting an unfair deal then the class warfare narrative wins out. Sometimes that's a real thing, sometimes not, but if we don't make it painfully obvious that everything we're doing puts vulnerable Australians first then you lose the narrative. If that happens then the next election will see some pretty extreme things put in. FWIW I don't think Australia is highly vulnerable to this but somewhere like the US where non-compulsory voting and first past the post counting systems the system heavily favours extremists. Things could get flipped on their heads pretty quickly
- credit to Portugal, not sure too many countries would take this step
Seems a bit ridiculous to have different fines for different states.For those unaware of the new restrictions that have come into place over night and the penalties for breeching said restrictions, (thinking it's best to abide by these restrictions especially if in WA or NT)...
Indoor and outdoor meetings have been limited to a maximum of two people, with a few exceptions:
– People who live in the same household going out together
– Attending a funeral (maximum of 10 people)
– Attending a wedding (maximum of five people)
The Government has also urged people to stay home, and only leave their home if they:
– are shopping for essentials, such as food and sanitary items
– require medical or healthcare needs
– have compassionate care duties
– are exercising outdoors (while keeping a safe distance from others, and only with one other person or people of the same household)
– are working or studying and unable to do so from home
& potential penalties...
NEW SOUTH WALES
– Fines of up to $11,000 and up to six months’ jail for leaving home without a valid reason
– Fines of $11,000 and up to six months’ jail for breaching quarantine.
VICTORIA
– On-the-spot fines of $1652 for individuals and $9913 for businesses flouting social distancing rules
– Fines of almost $19,826 for individuals and $100,000 for companies for breaching quarantine.
QUEENSLAND
– On-the-spot fines of $1334 for individuals and $6672 for businesses flouting social distancing rules
– Fines of up to $13,345 for individuals breaching quarantine.
WESTERN AUSTRALIA
– On-the-spot fines of $1000 for individuals and $5000 for businesses flouting social distancing rules
– Fines of up to $50,000 or one year’s jail time for breaching quarantine
NORTHERN TERRITORY
– Fines of up to $62,000 for breaching quarantine.
SOUTH AUSTRALIA
– On-the-spot fines of $1000 for individuals and $5000 for businesses flouting social distancing rules
– Fines of up to $25,000 for breaching quarantine.
TASMANIA
– On-the-spot fines of up to $1000 and possible arrest for flouting social distancing rules
– Fines of $16,800 and up to six months’ jail for breaching quarantine.
AUSTRALIAN CAPITAL TERRITORY
– On-the-spot fines for individuals flouting social distancing rules
– Fines of $8000 for individuals breaching quarantine and $40,500 for corporations
New COVID-19 measures taking effect from today
A series of new restrictions have come into effect across the country overnight.www.news.com.au
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