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  • direct labelling of someone as anti-semitic or a terrorist sympathiser for posting that is merely critical of Israel's response over time. Israel has the right to defend themselves from violence, but that does not mean that Israel has carte blanche to attack disproportionately towards people under their care.
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  • attempts to turn this into a Left vs Right shitfight.
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  • Any defense of Hamas' actions on the basis of justification. There's no justification for genocide, regardless of whether or not they have the power to do so.
Please recognise that this is a difficult time for all involved, and some level of sensitivity is absolutely required to permit discussion to flow. From time to time, mods will reach out to specific posters and do some welfare checks; we may even give posters who get a bit too involved some days off to give people some time to cool down. This is not a reflection on you as a poster, merely that this is an intense subject.

I get that this is a fairly intense topic about which opinion can diverge rather significantly. If you feel you cannot be respectful in your disagreement with another poster, it is frequently better to refuse to engage than it is to take up the call.

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Maggie5 Gone Critical Anzacday Jen2310
 
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Oh the irony...
"Shorten was much better that previously but still way too light on real deatil and way to thick on emotion and raising and lowering his voice. For someone who's mother is a teacher his use of "wevva' and the like instead of 'weather' is just annoying and low class... Morrison had the detail and broader effects down pat but I wonder how many people really care for detail. Morrison also missed a lot of chances to dispute Shortens claims on franking credits being a 'gift' paid for by other taxpayers.. not a bad debate, Bill Shorten shouldn't be too happy, the 2% margin was far too small for an opposition leader."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-03/federal-election-2019-morrison-shorten-debate-two/11079014

I didn't even watch it but wouldn't he be using the word 'whether' more often than 'weather' in a debate?
 
I have never before struggled so much to find a party I can vote for; such an underwhelming list of options.

I feel for the environment as the most important issue this time around, so will likely go with that as a focus for my decision.
 

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Just watching Paul Keating in action the other night makes you realize how insipid the leaders are on both sides of the debate,mind you I actually think he is right Asio,s heads do need to tone it down as regards China.
 
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Four days to democracy sausage..

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.....dog.
 
Clive Palmer spends $50 million on advertising then goes on holiday to Fiji during the week before the election...

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Wish his ads had gone with him. Footy Cassified was unawatchable with his ads. At least 10 of them. At every ad break.
 
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Am still struggling with the 6 above the line.
Was set on giving the Health Australia party one of my 6.
Health, hospitals, Medicare etc, got to be good surely.
But then you drill down... and suddenly...
“We aren’t anti vaxxers, but we don’t believe the Government can tell you to vaccinate. “.
Hello! Mate, that makes you anti vax.
And therefore you don’t get my vote.
Still struggling to find six.
 
Am still struggling with the 6 above the line.
Was set on giving the Health Australia party one of my 6.
Health, hospitals, Medicare etc, got to be good surely.
But then you drill down... and suddenly...
“We aren’t anti vaxxers, but we don’t believe the Government can tell you to vaccinate. “.
Hello! Mate, that makes you anti vax.
And therefore you don’t get my vote.
Still struggling to find six.
I voted below the line, got up to 20 then gave up but they still count. Six above the line was too hard.
 

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Bigger issues at play SV.

Collingwood will prevail. Good government will not.
Oh politics.

Yes I know all the goodness and all the bad only resides in one side of politics or the other.

Good and bad on both sides.

The rest, I leave for the barrackers to barrack for their team.

It all works out, we’re a great great country and overall things will be fine and we will all be blessed living in this country.
 
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