All things re *Paul*'s afltables.com

red+black

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We should all be familiar with the phenomenal website afltables.com maintained by *Paul*
- Change Log - https://afltables.com/afl/changes.html
- Site Notes - https://afltables.com/afl/notes.html
- Player Stat Notes - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/notes.html

AFL fans owe Paul a debt of gratitude, same goes for those that do or did maintain fantastic AFL resources.

I've been wondering whether we should have a thread dedicated to the site. Observations, suggestions, etc.

I'll start ... looks like we have a new page coming soon - https://afltables.com/afl/teams/allteams/finals.html
 
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*Paul*

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Thanks, banner away if you like. This would be a good place for anyone to suggest "settled research" changes too. New tables possibly as well, although I've been pretty lethargic for a while, so no guarantees.
 

worbod

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On a nitpicking note, I believe it is right to state that all the sections which begin with "Least", should, in accordance with correct grammatical structure, actually say "Fewest". If it is too much trouble to change all the Leasts into Fewest this will not diminish the quality of the website, just thought I'd put it out there for consideration. I most certainly have AFL Tables saved in my Favorites bar, where it is clicked with regularity, regardless of whether it is footy season or otherwise.
 

red+black

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Least and Fewest is definitely one that I would get wrong on occasion.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070117070203AAcdFyC

"If you're talking about a number of objects, then you use fewest. If you're talking about an amount or quantity, as with flour, water, sugar, sand, etc., then least is the correct term. Fewest, the superlative of few is for objects that are countable. Least, the superlative of less, is used for things that are uncountable/measurable."
 

big_e

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Thanks, banner away if you like. This would be a good place for anyone to suggest "settled research" changes too. New tables possibly as well, although I've been pretty lethargic for a while, so no guarantees.
Great site, have referred to it for a while. Thanks for your efforts.
 

tandino

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Thanks, banner away if you like. This would be a good place for anyone to suggest "settled research" changes too. New tables possibly as well, although I've been pretty lethargic for a while, so no guarantees.
If you're looking for suggestions for new tables etc, I think a section devoted to just grand finals and associated records would be helpful. It's a fantastic site, I've been using it for 10+ years. Always have been impressed at it's comprehensiveness and the speed in which it is updated.
 

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Gibbke

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of course it is, the AFL is hopeless at publishing their stats
And, ironically, won't bother trying to improve BECAUSE AFL Tables exists...

Same as Mero's site...I've heard they've even pilfered jumper graphics in the past without permission…!
 

red+black

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RedmanWasHere

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If we're asking for suggestions, what about, in the top 10 section for each player, what about a top 10 and bottom 10 margins played in?
 

red+black

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https://afltables.com/afl/teams/allteams/gamer.html

*Paul*, this page and individual club pages have these stats:

[Won From 1st Qrt Deficit] [Won From Half-Time Deficit] [Won From 3rd Qrt Deficit] [Lost With More Scoring Shots] [Biggest Losses With More Scoring Shots]

How about we get the converse as well:

[Lost From 1st Qrt Lead] [Lost From Half-Time Lead] [Lost From 3rd Qrt Lead] [Won With Less Scoring Shots] [Biggest Wins With Less Scoring Shots]

And then order them appropriately:

[Won From 1st Qrt Deficit] [Won From Half-Time Deficit] [Won From 3rd Qrt Deficit] [Won With Less Scoring Shots] [Biggest Wins With Less Scoring Shots]
[Lost From 1st Qrt Lead] [Lost From Half-Time Lead] [Lost From 3rd Qrt Lead] [Lost With More Scoring Shots] [Biggest Losses With More Scoring Shots]
 

red+black

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*Paul*: New stat request: [Most games between finals]

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/misc_players.html#11

Nathan Jones probably the clubhouse leader: https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/N/Nathan_Jones.html
2018 saw Nathan Jones of Melbourne play his first finals match since 2006. Jones played 254 games in the 12 seasons between finals appearances.

Similarly, 2018 also saw Gary Ablett Jnr return to finals football after 8 years (and 129 games) with Gold Coast and Geelong.

How do these finals droughts compare all time? Jones must be close to the record for longest finals drought.
 

the croucher

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I'd like to see the match by match details for 1930 - 1977 include indication of who was listed as 19th (and later) 20th men,
and those players who were replaced during the match.

A few years ago we had the "substitute" system in place - Paul has indicated match-by-match what happened there with very effective but simple "up & down arrow" symbols as in this Nth Melb v C'wood match
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2013/041220130331.html
 

Ron The Bear

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Can you help get us started with the stat above Ron The Bear ?
Most games between finals

Gms

Player

Fnl#1

Fnl#2

All Gms

Club(s)

Career

254

Jones, Nathan

8

262

264

Me

2006-2018

208

Roos, Paul

104

312

356

Fi,Sy

1982-1998

172

Browning, Mark

57

229

251

Sy

1975-1987

165

Merrett, Roger

131

296

313

Es,Br

1978-1996

164

Mohr, Bill

19

183

195

St

1929-1941

160

Buckley, Nathan

43

203

280

Br,Co

1993-2007

160

Everitt, Peter

115

275

291

St,Ha,Sy

1993-2008

158

Bayes, Mark

61

219

246

Sy

1985-1998

155

Fevola, Brendan

32

187

204

Ca,Br

1999-2010

152

Redden, Jack

10

162

188

Br,WC

2009-2018

150

Eason, Bill

22

172

220

Ge

1902-1915

148

McIvor, Scott

36

184

200

Fi,Br

1985-1997

148

Rocca, Saverio

50

198

257

Co,NM

1992-2006

146

Houlihan, Ryan

36

182

201

Ca

2000-2011

144

Cook, Troy

38

182

193

Sy,Fr

1997-2007

143

Nankervis, Ian J.

40

183

325

Ge

1967-1983

142

Williams, Paul

70

212

306

Co,Sy

1991-2006

141

Patfull, Joel

78

219

220

Br,WS

2006-2016
Most games after last final


Gms

Player

Last Fnl

Gms

Club(s)

Career

235

Murray, Kevin

Fi

98

333

1955-1974

216

Clegg, Ron

Sy

15

231

1945-1960

210

Sarau, Jeff

St

16

226

1973-1983

188

Dugdale, John

NM

60

248

1955-1970

181

Wright, Roy

Ri

14

195

1946-1959

177

Weightman, Dale

Ri

97

274

1978-1993

163*

Rich, Daniel

Br

24

187

2009-2019

163

Rowe, Des

Ri

12

175

1946-1957

162

Davis, Frank

Me

6

168

1964-1973

160

Bowden, Joel

Ri

105

265

1996-2009

158*

Harbrow, Jarrod

WB,GC

70

228

2007-2019

156

Round, Barry

WB,Sy

172

328

1969-1985

155

Fowler, Laurie

Ri,Me

34

189

1971-1981

151

Dwyer, Laurie

NM

50

201

1956-1970
 
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Saintly Viewed

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Thanks, banner away if you like. This would be a good place for anyone to suggest "settled research" changes too. New tables possibly as well, although I've been pretty lethargic for a while, so no guarantees.
Great work Paul.

Love the Tables.

I actually thought the AFL maintained the AFL tables, so just shows sometimes things are done far better outside.

But it might be an idea at that, in the distant future upon retiring, the AFL keeps the tables going for as long as the game is played.

Or is that anathema?
 

Saintly Viewed

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Least and Fewest is definitely one that I would get wrong on occasion.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070117070203AAcdFyC

"If you're talking about a number of objects, then you use fewest. If you're talking about an amount or quantity, as with flour, water, sugar, sand, etc., then least is the correct term. Fewest, the superlative of few is for objects that are countable. Least, the superlative of less, is used for things that are uncountable/measurable."
That’s a bingo.
Correct.

Also the NUMBER of people that say “amount” of people....
It has to always be number of people.

Hear it all the time.
 

Tarkyn_24

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Ryan Houlihan appears on both lists, as does Fevola?


Think perhaps Carlton’s late 2000’s finals are being missed in that second list?
 

SunGirl89

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