All things re *Paul*'s afltables.com

Remove this Banner Ad

Now I have most of what I need to look for something I've wondered: who scored the 2 millionth point in VFL/AFL history?
After the Richmond vs Essendon game in Round 7, 2001, 1999686 points had been scored. The games to come after that were St Kilda vs Hawthorn at 7pm AEST and Adelaide vs Fremantle at 7:40pm AEST. I'm making the assumption that both games started at this exact time and that the first/third quarter/halftime breaks were exactly 6, 6 and 20 minutes. This gives me the following times.

9:19:41pm - Nigel Smart (Adelaide) behind - 17m 9s, 3rd quarter, Adelaide vs Fremantle (1999981)
9:20:22pm - Mark Graham (Hawthorn) goal - 23m 12s, 4th quarter, St Kilda vs Hawthorn (1999987)
9:21:15pm - Adam Richardson (Adelaide) behind - 18m 43s, 3rd quarter, Adelaide vs Fremantle (1999988)
9:22:21pm - John Barker (Hawthorn) goal - 25m 11s, 4th quarter, St Kilda vs Hawthorn (1999994)
9:22:29pm - Clive Waterhouse (Fremantle) goal - 19m 57s, 3rd quarter, Adelaide vs Fremantle (2000000)

9:24:04pm - Clive Waterhouse (Fremantle) behind - 21m 32s, 3rd quarter, Adelaide vs Fremantle (2000001)
9:24:15pm - John Barker (Hawthorn) goal - 27m 5s, 4th quarter, St Kilda vs Hawthorn (2000007)
9:24:53pm - Stuart Bown (Adelaide) goal - 22m 21s, 3rd quarter, Adelaide vs Fremantle (2000013)

It's still impossible to tell. The breaks from either game could have gone longer or shorter, the games could have started at different times. All the factors could switch Barker and Waterhouse, or the events of one game could be shifted and somebody like Graham or Bown may have got it. Only way to tell is to align taped games with all the commercials and that's still a tall order.

So how many behinds have been scored now, or at least as at the beginning of 2019?
 

Log in to remove this ad.

Scoring progression has been available for each season dating back to 2008 for some time now. I have just discovered that AFL Tables now has scoring progression dating back to 2001. I have not seen this mentioned in Stats Observations or any other relevant thread. Sorry if I missed something and if many of you have known this for some time but I felt compelled to share this for any of you who were not aware.
Thankyou Paul, this is a brilliant new addition.
 
paul
I have noticed that even though there are now scoring progressions dating back to 2001, there are presently some matches in the 2004 season which don't yet have scoring progressions. Is there any chance this will be amended in the near future?
Also, are you going to be able to provide scoring progressions for any other seasons?
 
Hi *Paul* thanks for your contribution to our enjoyment of the game through maintaining your site - very much appreciated by all!

May I ask whether on your site there is somewhere that we can find the AFL ladder, by season, as it finished at the end of the finals and not just at the end of the minor round? This is obviously important as it defines draft order but I couldn't locate it on your site.
 
paul
I have noticed that even though there are now scoring progressions dating back to 2001, there are presently some matches in the 2004 season which don't yet have scoring progressions. Is there any chance this will be amended in the near future?
Also, are you going to be able to provide scoring progressions for any other seasons?

Hey *Paul*, you haven't answered my question yet. Don't tell me there's somebody in Canberra who actually has work to do?
 
Hi *Paul* thanks for your contribution to our enjoyment of the game through maintaining your site - very much appreciated by all!

May I ask whether on your site there is somewhere that we can find the AFL ladder, by season, as it finished at the end of the finals and not just at the end of the minor round? This is obviously important as it defines draft order but I couldn't locate it on your site.

See the attachment. I've just revamped my ladder calculator and checked off the results against "The leadership at..." sections of AFL Record Season 2019. (There are a few errors in the latter - Collingwood 1942 should be 10th, Melbourne 1907 should be 7th, Fitzroy 1907 should be 5th.)

Edit: errors confirmed by editor Michael Lovett; corrections will appear in next edition.
 

Attachments

  • Ladder positions.xls
    133 KB · Views: 112
Last edited:

(Log in to remove this ad.)

So 1 bloke runs that entire website?

That’s incredible, thanks so much for solving so many arguments with my mates!


It is indeed Paul Jeffs' website bud.

Best footy resource of all time.
 
Don't take this the wrong way, but it's embarrassing for the AFL that their media rely on an amateur website set up by a fan and contributed to by volunteers (including myself), because it's the best they have.

Kudos to the webmasters though. The AFL should be hiring you guys.
 
Reporting back with my stock take.

AFLM games without score progressions (From 2001 to 2007.)

Notes:

Games listed are missing score progressions.
Tallied games are in parentheses.
If years are missing, that's a good thing.

2001:

Round 12.

Essendon vs Adelaide. (1.)
Richmond vs Sydney. (2.)

Grand Final.

Essendon vs Brisbane. (3.)

2002:

Round 1.

Richmond vs Collingwood (4.)

Round 4.

Melbourne vs West Coast (5.)

2003:

Round 1.

Kangaroos vs St Kilda (6.)

Round 3.

Sydney vs Adelaide (7.)

Round 12.

Brisbane vs West Coast (8.)

2004:

Round 1.

Footscray vs West Coast (9.)

Round 2.

Hawthorn vs Kangaroos (10.)

2007:

Round 3.

Carlton vs Essendon (11.)

Round 4.

St Kilda vs Essendon (12.)

Round 9.

Port Adelaide vs Geelong (13.)

Round 19.

Hawthorn vs Brisbane (14.)
Melbourne vs Footscray (15.)
 
CARLTON VS ESSENDON (Round 3 2007) - Score Progression

1st Quarter (31:44)
  • Carlton 0-1 Essendon = Matthew Lloyd (2:36) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 0-2 Essendon = Matthew Lloyd (3:36) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 0-8 Essendon = Andrew Lovett (3:59) = GOAL
  • Carlton 1-8 Essendon = Brendan Fevola (5:57) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 1-14 Essendon = Mark McVeigh (7:31) = GOAL
  • Carlton 7-14 Essendon = Eddie Betts (8:39) = GOAL
  • Carlton 7-20 Essendon = Scott Lucas (10:59) = GOAL
  • Carlton 7-21 Essendon = Damien Peverill (12:09) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 7-22 Essendon = Angus Monfries (15:07) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 7-23 Essendon = Jason Winderlich (15:55) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 13-23 Essendon = Ryan Houlihan (16:56) = GOAL
  • Carlton 13-24 Essendon = Jason Winderlich (18:19) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 13-30 Essendon = Scott Lucas (22:56) = GOAL
  • Carlton 13-36 Essendon = Jobe Watson (24:35) = GOAL
  • Carlton 13-37 Essendon = Scott Lucas (26:04) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 13-38 Essendon = Scott Lucas (27:01) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 13-44 Essendon = Matthew Lloyd (27:53) = GOAL
  • Carlton 13-50 Essendon = Angus Monfries (28:49) = GOAL
  • Carlton 13-51 Essendon = Scott Lucas (31:13) = BEHIND
2nd Quarter (34:49)
  • Carlton 13-57 Essendon = Matthew Lloyd (0:31) = GOAL
  • Carlton 14-57 Essendon = Josh Kennedy (2:42) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 15-57 Essendon = Brendan Fevola (3:41) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 15-58 Essendon = Rushed (4:14) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 21-58 Essendon = Matthew Lappin (7:28) = GOAL
  • Carlton 22-58 Essendon = Rushed (8:35) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 23-58 Essendon = Brad Fisher (13:44) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 29-58 Essendon = Andrew Carrazzo (14:03) = GOAL
  • Carlton 29-64 Essendon = Scott Lucas (15:06) = GOAL
  • Carlton 35-64 Essendon = Andrew Walker (17:01) = GOAL
  • Carlton 35-65 Essendon = Scott Lucas (19:06) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 35-66 Essendon = Damien Peverill (19:52) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 35-72 Essendon = Andrew Lovett (20:21) = GOAL
  • Carlton 36-72 Essendon = Rushed (21:18) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 36-78 Essendon = Mark McVeigh (22:16) = GOAL
  • Carlton 37-78 Essendon = Rushed (23:30) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 37-84 Essendon = Andrew Lovett (25:06) = GOAL
  • Carlton 37-85 Essendon = Rushed (28:28) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 43-85 Essendon = Brendan Fevola (29:45) = GOAL
  • Carlton 49-85 Essendon = Brendan Fevola (31:29) = GOAL
  • Carlton 55-85 Essendon = Matthew Lappin (33:29) = GOAL
3rd Quarter (29:51)
  • Carlton 55-86 Essendon = Rushed (2:01) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 61-86 Essendon = Matthew Lappin (2:54) = GOAL
  • Carlton 67-86 Essendon = Brad Fisher (5:42) = GOAL
  • Carlton 73-86 Essendon = Brendan Fevola (7:23) = GOAL
  • Carlton 73-92 Essendon = Matthew Lloyd (9:25) = GOAL
  • Carlton 79-92 Essendon = Brendan Fevola (11:10) = GOAL
  • Carlton 80-92 Essendon = Eddie Betts (12:43) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 81-92 Essendon = Ryan Houlihan (14:42) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 81-93 Essendon = Andrew Lovett (15:39) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 87-93 Essendon = Brad Fisher (16:41) = GOAL
  • Carlton 88-93 Essendon = Lance Whitnall (19:29) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 94-93 Essendon = Brendan Fevola (22:14) = GOAL
  • Carlton 100-93 Essendon = Brendan Fevola (24:16) = GOAL
  • Carlton 100-94 Essendon = Scott Lucas (26:17) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 101-94 Essendon = Kade Simpson (29:49) = BEHIND
4th Quarter (29:51)
  • Carlton 101-95 Essendon = Matthew Lloyd (1:26) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 107-95 Essendon = Nick Stevens (3:19) = GOAL
  • Carlton 107-96 Essendon = Brent Stanton (4:17) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 108-96 Essendon = Jarrad Waite (5:33) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 109-96 Essendon = Andrew Carrazzo (8:17) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 109-97 Essendon = Leroy Jetta (9:26) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 109-103 Essendon = Alwyn Davey (10:53) = GOAL
  • Carlton 110-103 Essendon = Marc Murphy (11:53) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 111-103 Essendon = Nick Stevens (12:25) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 111-109 Essendon = Mark McVeigh (14:33) = GOAL
  • Carlton 117-109 Essendon = Brendan Fevola (17:14) = GOAL
  • Carlton 117-115 Essendon = Matthew Lloyd (19:23) = GOAL
  • Carlton 118-115 Essendon = Andrew Walker (20:27) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 124-115 Essendon = Brendan Fevola (22:11) = GOAL
  • Carlton 124-121 Essendon = Matthew Lloyd (23:12) = GOAL
  • Carlton 125-121 Essendon = Marc Murphy (26:29) = BEHIND
  • Carlton 125-122 Essendon = Andrew Lovett (26:53) = BEHIND
 
Manually adding scoring progressions with community help would be interesting.
One advantage is that we can identify incorrectly attributed goals or points and properly give them to the right player, as well as jumper number issues. I found both looking at one game in 1986.
I'll go through the 1998 Grand Final now.
 
1998 Grand Final

1st Quarter (30:12)

Adelaide 0-1 North Melbourne = Rushed (0:53) = BEHIND
Adelaide 0-2 North Melbourne = Wayne Carey (2:15) = BEHIND
Adelaide 0-8 North Melbourne = John Blakey (3:30) = GOAL
Adelaide 0-9 North Melbourne = Craig Sholl (6:52) = BEHIND
Adelaide 1-9 North Melbourne = Mark Ricciuto (11:57) = BEHIND
Adelaide 7-9 North Melbourne = Mark Ricciuto (14:10) = GOAL
Adelaide 7-15 North Melbourne = Adam Simpson (18:12) = GOAL
Adelaide 7-21 North Melbourne = Mark Roberts (20:25) = GOAL
Adelaide 8-21 North Melbourne = Rushed (21:56) = BEHIND
Adelaide 14-21 North Melbourne = Darren Jarman (24:01) = GOAL
Adelaide 14-27 North Melbourne = Wayne Carey (26:34) = GOAL
Adelaide 20-27 North Melbourne = Brett James (28:16) = GOAL
Adelaide 20-28 North Melbourne = Corey McKernan (29:24) = BEHIND


2nd Quarter (28:44)

Adelaide 20-29 North Melbourne = Rushed (0:22) = BEHIND
Adelaide 20-35 North Melbourne = Martin Pike (2:02) = GOAL
Adelaide 20-36 North Melbourne = Shannon Grant (5:01) = BEHIND
Adelaide 26-36 North Melbourne = David Pittman (6:45) = GOAL
Adelaide 26-37 North Melbourne = Wayne Carey (8:49) = BEHIND
Adelaide 26-38 North Melbourne = Mark Roberts (9:37) = BEHIND
Adelaide 26-39 North Melbourne = Peter Bell (10:23) = BEHIND
Adelaide 26-40 North Melbourne = Rushed (11:11) = BEHIND
Adelaide 26-41 North Melbourne = John Blakey (12:28) = BEHIND
Adelaide 26-42 North Melbourne = Winston Abraham (18:11) = BEHIND
Adelaide 26-43 North Melbourne = Wayne Carey (20:22) = BEHIND
Adelaide 26-49 North Melbourne = Peter Bell (21:17) = GOAL
Adelaide 27-49 North Melbourne = Darren Jarman (24:44) = BEHIND
Adelaide 27-50 North Melbourne = Matthew Capuano (26:31) = BEHIND
Adelaide 27-51 North Melbourne = Corey McKernan (27:56) = BEHIND


3rd Quarter (30:28)

Adelaide 33-51 North Melbourne = Darren Jarman (3:12) = GOAL
Adelaide 34-51 North Melbourne = Andrew McLeod (4:58) = BEHIND
Adelaide 40-51 North Melbourne = Kane Johnson (6:11) = GOAL
Adelaide 41-51 North Melbourne = Peter Vardy (7:02) = BEHIND
Adelaide 42-51 North Melbourne = James Thiessen (8:33) = BEHIND
Adelaide 48-51 North Melbourne = Darren Jarman (12:40) = GOAL
Adelaide 49-51 North Melbourne = Darren Jarman (14:08) = BEHIND
Adelaide 50-51 North Melbourne = Ben Marsh (15:37) = BEHIND
Adelaide 51-51 North Melbourne = Nigel Smart (16:49) = BEHIND
Adelaide 51-57 North Melbourne = Winston Abraham (18:22) = GOAL
Adelaide 57-57 North Melbourne = Peter Vardy (23:31) = GOAL
Adelaide 58-57 North Melbourne = Matthew Robran (25:43) = BEHIND
Adelaide 64-57 North Melbourne = Nigel Smart (26:51) = GOAL
Adelaide 65-57 North Melbourne = Andrew Eccles (28:01) = BEHIND
Adelaide 65-63 North Melbourne = Brett Allison (30:28) = GOAL


4th Quarter (30:17)

Adelaide 71-63 North Melbourne = James Thiessen (0:52) = GOAL
Adelaide 77-63 North Melbourne = Darren Jarman (3:13) = GOAL
Adelaide 77-64 North Melbourne = Craig Sholl (4:29) = BEHIND
Adelaide 77-65 North Melbourne = Peter Bell (5:01) = BEHIND
Adelaide 78-65 North Melbourne = Kane Johnson (6:25) = BEHIND
Adelaide 79-65 North Melbourne = Darren Jarman (8:10) = BEHIND
Adelaide 79-66 North Melbourne = David King (10:59) = BEHIND
Adelaide 79-67 North Melbourne = Wayne Carey (12:37) = BEHIND
Adelaide 85-67 North Melbourne = Nigel Smart (15:42) = GOAL
Adelaide 91-67 North Melbourne = Darren Jarman (17:07) = GOAL
Adelaide 92-67 North Melbourne = Mark Stevens (21:02) = BEHIND
Adelaide 92-68 North Melbourne = Peter Bell (21:43) = BEHIND
Adelaide 93-68 North Melbourne = Tyson Edwards (23:30) = BEHIND
Adelaide 99-68 North Melbourne = Nigel Smart (24:01) = GOAL
Adelaide 105-68 North Melbourne = Peter Vardy (25:08) = GOAL
Adelaide 105-69 North Melbourne = John Blakey (28:04) = BEHIND
Adelaide 105-70 North Melbourne = Shannon Grant (29:36) = BEHIND
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top