Mega Thread All things Tony Abbott

[Xsess]

Speaking of socialists this was outside a Bernie Sanders rally

 

[smokingjacket]

Who pays for them? You simply don't get it and never will, Govts create nothing that they don't take off someone else.

Never stopped to think why the private sector runs better schools, more efficient hospitals and the private sector builds projects like toll roads on time, on budget and if they stuff it up wear the risk. When the Govt stuffs up they just take more, like they want to now.

How much Govt money did Gates and Jobs get as they built there wealth? All the welfare today, hows society going?

This is just way too much lol. You have literally zero idea.

All of those statements in the second paragraph are highly contentious and considering the fact that private schools, hospitals and roads all receive major government funding they could be considered Public-Private entities.

Lastly you couldn't find a better example of private sector welfare than Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. The US taxpayer paid for all the R&D in to computers, code and the internet and Gates and Jobs came along and monopolized the industry using very nasty corporate tactics to shut down competitors and the anarchic sharing community of early computer software.

 

[romeohwho]

Speaking of socialists this was outside a Bernie Sanders rally

Yep, probably the same bright spark from the back blocks of Alabama who doesn't want that commie plot-medicare!

 

[Malifice]

Speaking of socialists this was outside a Bernie Sanders rally

At least black guys arent getting beaten up 'because terrorists' at his rallies.

 

[Malifice]

drainage, medicine, roads, housing, education and viniculture

Jet rockets, space travel, satellites, the large hadron collider, SETI, fusion and fission. The list goes on really.

Heck, who doesnt crank up the science rating to max level when playing Civ?

 

[Xsess]

At least black guys arent getting beaten up 'because terrorists' at his rallies.

Because what? All the news footage I saw involved black men swinging haymakers at attendees of the rally they had gate crashed. Which saw subsequent rally cancellations due to threat of violence.

 

[sherb]

Because what? All the news footage I saw involved black men swinging haymakers at attendees of the rally they had gate crashed. Which saw subsequent rally cancellations due to threat of violence.

I wonder how much Trump paid them to cause trouble?

 

[Gough]

I wonder how much Trump paid them to cause trouble?

I reckon Trump would have a team that would make Hunt, Liddy, and the rest of the CREEP lads look like choirboys.

 

[Maggie5]

Because what? All the news footage I saw involved black men swinging haymakers at attendees of the rally they had gate crashed. Which saw subsequent rally cancellations due to threat of violence.

Did you miss where his handlers aggressively man handled the woman inside one of his rallies because she spoke out?

 

[Pie eyed]

W

This simple truism far exceeds the comprehension of your average lefty. As does the reality that a budget deficit can only be paid off with interest using future taxes.

What the right don't get is that it's the decision of the majority of the people what we spend our taxes on..whether that be refugees or nuclear power plants...not the Liberal Party.
I would have much rather spent 30% more an an NBN which work rather than steaming pile of s**t Turnbull will half deliver in his life time.
I would happily pay less to process asylum seekers on Australian shores and * Tony Abbotts personal opinion on the matter.
No need to waste 160 million on a "set=up to fail" plebiscite on same sex marriage. Just revoke John Howard's amendment to the Marriage ACT, the only thing making it illegal.
If the Catholic complain remind them they are a religious sect who are guest in our secular society.

And tax the campaigners too....

 

[Hawk Dork]

I would have much rather spent 30% more an an NBN which work rather than steaming pile of s**t Turnbull will half deliver in his life time.

We will all pay way more than 30% just to fix it properly in the future.
And they know it when they are wasting money building this half arsed internet.

 

[Xsess]

W

What the right don't get is that it's the decision of the majority of the people what we spend our taxes on..whether that be refugees or nuclear power plants...not the Liberal Party

Peak stupid. With democracy only a numbers game the stupid and lazy work out to vote for political parties (Labor/Greens) that give them "free" stuff. Society reaches "peak stupid" at the tipping point where contributors to the tax pool are outnumbered by everyone else - demanding the few who do pay tax pay ever more.

 

[CM86]

Peak stupid. With democracy only a numbers game the stupid and lazy work out to vote for political parties (Labor/Greens) that give them "free" stuff. Society reaches "peak stupid" at the tipping point where contributors to the tax pool are outnumbered by everyone else - demanding the few who do pay tax pay ever more.

""free" stuff" being Health and education?

 

[Gough]

Problem is, the Treasurer shares the above sentiment.

 

[Father Jack]

Johnny Winston Howard golden showered his way into a couple of extra terms by giving away free stuff, and he's a conservative hero, so what gives?

 

[rodney hoo]

Peak stupid. With democracy only a numbers game the stupid and lazy work out to vote for political parties (Labor/Greens) that give them "free" stuff. Society reaches "peak stupid" at the tipping point where contributors to the tax pool are outnumbered by everyone else - demanding the few who do pay tax pay ever more.

The top end off town don't pay tax, that's a free gift from your mates, if liberals would stop cutting funding to education we could get a few more working instead of dumbing down the nation and throwing scraps to the dumbed down to vote for them.

 

[Xsess]

The top end off town don't pay tax, that's a free gift from your mates, if liberals would stop cutting funding to education we could get a few more working instead of dumbing down the nation and throwing scraps to the dumbed down to vote for them.

Many people paying high PAYE rates are not rich. They don't have assets can't dodge tax. For them high taxes simply locks them into a lifetime of mortgage payments and no real prospect of getting ahead.

 

[CM86]

Many people paying high PAYE rates are not rich. They don't have assets can't dodge tax. For them high taxes simply locks them into a lifetime of mortgage payments and no real prospect of getting ahead.

They could always be poor... which, apparently, is a much better lifestyle choice...

 

[Xsess]

They could always be poor... which, apparently, is a much better lifestyle choice...

For example to get ahead a very low income earner makes an extreme sacrifice like slaving away on 70 hour weeks in a baking hot shithole in the middle of nowhere for a year or two to scrape a deposit for their house - ends up barely any better off because the govt takes half?

 

[CM86]

For example to get ahead a very low income earner makes an extreme sacrifice like slaving away on 70 hour weeks in a baking hot shithole in the middle of nowhere for a year or two to scrape a deposit for their house - ends up barely any better off because the govt takes half?

What?
What low income earner pays half in tax??

Do you really think you earn less money, the more money you make?

 

[Xsess]

What?
What low income earner pays half in tax??

Do you really think you earn less money, the more money you make?

Pretend you decide you have had enough flipping hamburgers at HJ's or living off the dole/pension etc. You accept a job for two years in a remote part of Australia. Despite being of low intelligence your fear of your missus/drug dealer provides motivation, so you do actually manage to work a full year of manual labour working huge hours. In that one single year you earn a good income, one good year out of a lifetime. Do you deserve to have half that wage taken?

Jokes aside, this scenario is actually repeated all the time. Motivated people with a plan flog their arses off until they realise the sacrifice isn't worth the reward.

 

[CM86]

Pretend you decide you have had enough flipping hamburgers at HJ's or living off the dole/pension etc. You accept a job for two years in a remote part of Australia. Despite being of low intelligence your fear of your missus/drug dealer provides motivation, so you do actually manage to work a full year of manual labour working huge hours. In that one single year you earn a good income, one good year out of a lifetime. Do you deserve to have half that wage taken?

Jokes aside, this scenario is actually repeated all the time. Motivated people with a plan flog their arses off until they realise the sacrifice isn't worth the reward.

What salary did that person earn for the year, that they paid half in tax?...

I say again... the more you earn, the more you make...
It isn't an inverse...

I pay a lot of tax, and I'm a lot more comfortable than someone on $50k a year...

 

[Pie eyed]

Peak stupid. With democracy only a numbers game the stupid and lazy work out to vote for political parties (Labor/Greens) that give them "free" stuff. Society reaches "peak stupid" at the tipping point where contributors to the tax pool are outnumbered by everyone else - demanding the few who do pay tax pay ever more.

Australian voters reached Peak stupid when they voted Tony Abbott's band of morons in on the basis of a half dozen unsupportable three word slogans, only to be handed "knighthoods" and record debt.
That Abbott is the countries worst ever performed PM is only fitting, but that he was knifed by his own party with not so much as a whisper of negative sloganeering from Labor is priceless.
The only possibility that any other time in Political history could be deemed "Peak Stupid" is if his assassin wins the coming election.

 

[Pie eyed]

Pretend you decide you have had enough flipping hamburgers at HJ's or living off the dole/pension etc. You accept a job for two years in a remote part of Australia. Despite being of low intelligence your fear of your missus/drug dealer provides motivation, so you do actually manage to work a full year of manual labour working huge hours. In that one single year you earn a good income, one good year out of a lifetime. Do you deserve to have half that wage taken?

Jokes aside, this scenario is actually repeated all the time. Motivated people with a plan flog their arses off until they realise the sacrifice isn't worth the reward.

Maybe get a grasp of the tax system before you post such tripe.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Many people paying high PAYE rates are not rich. They don't have assets can't dodge tax. For them high taxes simply locks them into a lifetime of mortgage payments and no real prospect of getting ahead.

So you are advocating for closing tax loopholes on the wealthy and raising their rates while reducing the rates for the lower income earners?

Welcome to the left.