List Mgmt. All Trades and Draft Part 2- Draft edition

[Dark Sharks]

Let’s assume they did just give Ryder away. The late picks are largely irrelevant anyway. That 18 and 12 for Howard and 10 is good work nonetheless.

Great deal for the Saints.

Is it?

GWS got pick 40 for Tomlinson compo.

Keith is talked up as being traded from Adelaide to the dogs for a 45-60 pick. Defenders are on fire sale ATM.

Both of them are equally as good if not better than Howard, but Saints have just paid pick 18 for him.

The 10 to 12 downgrade is minimal, but just tack it on and say Saints paid roughly pick 20 for Horward. Hardly a MASSIVE win IMO.



Semantics i know.

 

[06Premiers]

Jonas is a shitcampaigner

Absolutely agree.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Reports Blake Acres might be involved in saints freo deal. Not sure I approve this.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

If he had actually got on the park over the last few seasons yeah sure. But we're talking about a player who has missed a hell of a lot of football.

That is why apparently, Daniher wants to leave, due to the mis-management of his OP

 

[kane249]

One report saying pick 6 and future second wasn't actually offered and that the report stating it was was incorrect. Saints offered 6 and future third and Dockers wanted 6 and future first and talks broke down. Can't remember where I heard this but Vic media do like making Freo look bad.

Not sure why they bother, Freo and more than capable of doing this by themselves

 

[Rowan18]

If he had actually got on the park over the last few seasons yeah sure. But we're talking about a player who has missed a hell of a lot of football.

Syndey aren't trying to buy a broken down player, there are assuming he'll get over his groin issue and hit peak. Essendon dont want to trade him, so it's logical that they ask for the same price they would if he was at peak. Sydney are trying to get a bargain, fair enough to have a crack, but he's contracted.

Daniher suffered from OP which can be a two season thing (refer to Nic Nat 2012/13). I wouldn't be surprised to see Daniher hit his straps again in the second half of next year.

 

[Dark Sharks]

I just had 2 Tim Tams.

 

[WCE_phil]

I just had 2 Tim Tams.

I'll salute that and eat 2 as well.

 

[Rowan18]

Traded in / cheap Hawthorn players and their 2019 B&F finishes. You can factor in that Scully and Patton could easily make their top 10 B&F next year, fitness permitting

Worpel (1st) - pick 45
Henderson (2nd) - free
O’Meara (3rd) - picks 10 & 24
Sicily (4th) - pick 56
Hardwick (5th) - pick 44
Impey (6th) - pick 33
Scully - ~60
Patton - ~60

The B&F is a completely biased award. Hawthorn missed the 8, so all that tells me is that these trades haven't caused them to be world bearers.

 

[The Stid]

If he’s not apart of the Hill Trade, would a future third do it? Keep in mind I have no knowledge on Acres, so I’m not sure how the Saints rate him.

 

[mattyc75]

Reports Blake Acres might be involved in saints freo deal. Not sure I approve this.

He'll fit right in with their recent acquisitions of conca,colyer etc

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[Dark Sharks]

The B&F is a completely biased award. Hawthorn missed the 8, so all that tells me is that these trades haven't caused them to be world bearers.

Well they lost their best player and Brownlow medalist who will return in 2020.

He'd instantly lift them into the 8 IMO. Hawthorn have a lot of upside despite still having an older team.

 

[Rowan18]

Yeah we beat the s**t Hawks team by 1 pt then they came to Perth and f’ed up our Premiership plans .
They aren’t as bad as you think ..


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They aren't great though, we just struggle against them. I think it's because our gameplan is similar to theirs and they know how to disrupt it.

 

[ep2018]

The squiggle had Hawthorn the second best team towards the end of the season, behind Richmond. They'll make finals for sure with their recent aquisitions and Mitchell next year imo.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Vozzo is way too gun shy to add Acres this trade period. He's still counting the cost of the Kelly trade and shut up shop. It was the biggest trade in our history.

I'd be amazed if we had an Acres trade brewing in the background this whole time. Has to be Freo surely.

 

[dewcefault]

The B&F is a completely biased award. Hawthorn missed the 8, so all that tells me is that these trades haven't caused them to be world bearers.

They didn't miss the 8 by much and comprehensively beat us when we had top 4 on the line.

Hawks also traded value players during their 3peat so they know the formula can work.

 

[dewcefault]

Vozzo is way too gun shy to add Acres this trade period. He's still counting the cost of the Kelly trade and shut up shop. It was the biggest trade in our history.

I'd be amazed if we had an Acres trade brewing in the background this whole time. Has to be Freo surely.

Surely it's the biggest trade in AFL history in terms of pure pick count.

2 x 1st round picks and 2 x 2nd rounds picks for a player + 3rd pick.

 

[CM9000]

Vozzo is way too gun shy to add Acres this trade period. He's still counting the cost of the Kelly trade and shut up shop. It was the biggest trade in our history.

I'd be amazed if we had an Acres trade brewing in the background this whole time. Has to be Freo surely.

Do we have the currency to get it done? Maybe 46 and Geelong's future third?

 

[Benji85]

Honestly I feel like people at Port must be huffing glue to do that deal

They traded Howard, Ryder and #10 for #12 and #18? I know Ryder probably doesn't have much longer in the system but trading Howard? Defender with massive upside imo. This seems like someone making a decision the same day they took a blow to the head.

Maybe I've just got PTSD from those few games against us where it felt like Ryder singled-handedly turned the game as well..I dunno

 

[eagles rule]

They aren't great though, we just struggle against them. I think it's because our gameplan is similar to theirs and they know how to disrupt it.

That’s right , they aren’t great but they are building again ..Getting Mitchell back will be a big boost plus Impey and gaining Patton and Frost to add to Wingard and Scully who where in their 1st years at the club..


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[Dark Sharks]

Do we have the currency to get it done? Maybe 46 and Geelong's future third?

That's probably overs i think.

One or the other might be enough.

Unless it's 'hypothetically' something like Geelongs future 3rd + 45 for Acres + Future 4th?

 

[Keys]

Would Acres be best 22 and if so who does he push out?

I don’t think he is so I’d be reluctant to give up much more than 46

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Acres is a solid player and a good long term Mundy replacement.

 

[Boohemian]

Sydney have let Darcy Cameron head off to Collingwood for pick 56 and a late one back.

Wouldn't we have been in the frame for a young ruckman with a couple of years in the system?

 

[Dark Sharks]

Would Acres be best 22 and if so who does he push out?

I don’t think he is so I’d be reluctant to give up much more than 46

Yes, and Hutchings?

I don't even think the Saints would take 46 TBH.