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People criticised it, that's free speech. Did the right protest and try to block him from performing however? Nope. Meanwhile, look what happens when a conservative tries to speak on an American college campus. Rabid left wing groups do all they can to block them from speaking, and have been successful many times. There's just no comparison, many on the left hate free speech and jump at any chance of censoring opposing views.
"criticising" aka Death threats and effectively chasing chasing someone out of the country.
2GB and 3AW didn't air Macklemore playing his song (but played the rest of the pre game entertainment). But that's not censoring. That's "free speech" yeah? How does this differ from "rabid left wing" groups protesting?

For all the "free speech" the right talk up they are the biggest censors of the lot.
Question the military? You must respect our troops.
Question the police? You must respect the police.
Don't wanna sing the national anthem? Fire his ass.
 

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"criticising" aka Death threats and effectively chasing chasing someone out of the country.
2GB and 3AW didn't air Macklemore playing his song (but played the rest of the pre game entertainment). But that's not censoring. That's "free speech" yeah? How does this differ from "rabid left wing" groups protesting?

For all the "free speech" the right talk up they are the biggest censors of the lot.
Question the military? You must respect our troops.
Question the police? You must respect the police.
Don't wanna sing the national anthem? Fire his ass.
Macklemore still performed, yeah? How was he chased out of the country, exactly?
Since when do 2GB and 3AW need to air some song from the entertainment? Maybe the radio broadcasters wanted to talk about, you know, rugby league?

Come back to me when the right have literally blocked someone from performing or speaking in a public place like the left constantly do on college campuses in the US.
 

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Macklemore still performed, yeah? How was he chased out of the country, exactly?
Since when do 2GB and 3AW need to air some song from the entertainment? Maybe the radio broadcasters wanted to talk about, you know, rugby league?
Haha. hilarious. Just happened the only part of the pre-game entertainment they didn't play was a song supporting same sex marriage. How convenient.

Also they didn't, you know, talk about rugby league during those four minutes. They played Ray Hadlee playing a parody song with his daughter. Effectively censorship. Paraded as "free speech". Usual conservative tactics.

RE: effectively chased out of the country was what happened to Yassmin Abdel-Magied. Not Macklemore.

RE: US colleges, If enough people protest to say they don't want someone on their campus is that not - to paraphrase Gough - the market speaking? All those conservative speakers can talk. They just gotta do it somewhere else.
 

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Haha. hilarious. Just happened the only part of the pre-game entertainment they didn't play was a song supporting same sex marriage. How convenient.

Also they didn't, you know, talk about rugby league during those four minutes. They played Ray Hadlee playing a parody song with his daughter. Effectively censorship. Paraded as "free speech". Usual conservative tactics.

RE: effectively chased out of the country was what happened to Yassmin Abdel-Magied. Not Macklemore.

RE: US colleges, If enough people protest to say they don't want someone on their campus is that not - to paraphrase Gough - the market speaking? All those conservative speakers can talk. They just gotta do it somewhere else.
So it's not censorship when the left prevent someone from speaking on a college campus, but it is censorship when Australians hit back at a self entitled person making derogatory comments about Australia?
If the left weren't against free speech, they wouldn't care where people spoke. Many college students wanted to hear conservative people speak, so why shouldn't they be allowed to?
 

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So it's not censorship when the left prevent someone from speaking on a college campus, but it is censorship when Australians hit back at a self entitled person making derogatory comments about Australia?
If the left weren't against free speech, they wouldn't care where people spoke. Many college students wanted to hear conservative people speak, so why shouldn't they be allowed to?
LOL derogatory comments =/= reminding of a few introspective truths. Like I said. Be critical of the military and conservatives will jump straight on you. You must respect our soldiers.

As for US College speakers. Enough people showed their displeasure. The college's made a call it was in their best interests to cancel events. These guys went and spoke somewhere else.

Free speech is great but people will call you out on your bullshit.
 

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LOL derogatory comments =/= reminding of a few introspective truths. Like I said. Be critical of the military and conservatives will jump straight on you. You must respect our soldiers.

As for US College speakers. Enough people showed their displeasure. The college's made a call it was in their best interests to cancel events. These guys went and spoke somewhere else.

Free speech is great but people will call you out on your bullshit.
Your hypocrisy is astounding. The fact that you can't even see it speaks volumes.

And FYI, colleges cancelled events because of the threat of violence from the left. They use violence to censor people from speaking, and you're okay with this. Disgraceful.
 

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Also, right to free speech doesn't give you right to a microphone, a podium and a venue. Free speech is about not being put into prison by authoritarianism governments. No one is obliged to give you a platform.

In these situations everything the left does is basically the same as what the right does. Try to deny the size of that voice. I.e. go have your speech somewhere else, not on my college campus, or we'll play Ray Hadlee and his daughter instead of a song about same sex marriage.

The biggest difference is when this happens right claim victimhood of "free speech denial" or claim death threats as just "exercising free speech of criticism".
 

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No...You are attempting to politicize something which goes beyond parochial lines there.....Well beyond, in fact.

When both the likes of Trump & Clinton have been implicated in Epsteins 'Sex-island' court case, then your glib dismissals are exposed for the ignorance they entail about the facts of the case.
So Clinton is running a child sex ring?
 

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So.

A 'patriotic' group (a bunch of human refuse who love waving flags and getting in fights) is holding a flag waving exhibition today. Their name is the True Blue Crew. The new romper stomper had a fictional group called patriot blue.

The series featured a fight between the nazis and antifa at the same venue the tweakers are holding their flag at today.

And the real group is led by a neo-nazi fictionalised in the new romper stomper series.

Time is indeed a flat circle.
 

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Your hypocrisy is astounding. The fact that you can't even see it speaks volumes.

And FYI, colleges cancelled events because of the threat of violence from the left. They use violence to censor people from speaking, and you're okay with this. Disgraceful.
Nah, no hypocrisy. Just know what free speech is and what it entitles you to.

I just don't play victim when other people get pissed off with what i say.
 

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Ooooo yeah how could I forget on Australia day. Another example of conservative authoritarianism.

Sacking councils who won't celebrate Australia Day.

But it's not censorship. It's free speech to sack someone (or an organisation in this case).
 

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Ooooo yeah how could I forget on Australia day. Another example of conservative authoritarianism.

Sacking councils who won't celebrate Australia Day.

But it's not censorship. It's free speech to sack someone (or an organisation in this case).
Those progressives are just making everyone afraid to do or say the wrong thing. Poor conservatives. :(
 

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Ooooo yeah how could I forget on Australia day. Another example of conservative authoritarianism.

Sacking councils who won't celebrate Australia Day.

But it's not censorship. It's free speech to sack someone (or an organisation in this case).
It;s conservative virtue signalling IMO.

He hasn't got the courage to follow that one through.
 

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So Clinton is running a child sex ring?
Clinton - along with the likes of Trump, Branson & Dutch royalty - have all been implicated in Epsteins child-sex-slave ring.....This sh*t goes all the way to the upper echelons of society, which is why it is being silenced & all these Hollywood celebs are being thrown to the wolves, as a smoke-screen & cover-up for the real story.
 

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Watch out, he believes this stuff. If you posited that Clinton was a lizard creature paving the way for alien colonisation, he'd give it real thought.
I have so many questions.

She's a corporate pollie engineered by focus groups. Why does she run a child sex ring?

And considering all the murdering she does, where does she find the time?
 

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Really worthwhile vid here by Chris Hedges for those of you who are interested.

Some great points he has to make:

@ 2.18 Protean fascism is distinguished by & revolves around emotion, hyper-masculinity, a virulent Nationalism. A celebration of 'strength', military-virtue....It also holds up a kind of moral-purity that it claims to represent.

@ 3.10...Cites Sheldon Wolin....Our current system is a form of inverted totalitarianism, where 'the market' rules all....Both the Congress & the Senate as mere facades....A pretense that Democracy is still in play ah la Augustus & the Roman Empire....where the corporatocracy has internally seized all the levers of power to render the citizen redundant.

@ 6.30 The difference between the so called alt right & Christian Right....Why the Christian Right is far more dangerous & organized, both ideologically & politically.....Characterized by savagery, cruelty & cultism.

@ 12.00 The fundy Christian Liberty Law school responsible for producing so many Federalist judges in the legal system.

@ 12.45 Trumps administration as an ethics free-zone, without even a pretense at it.....A clear looting & fleecing of the country by the corporatocracy on his behalf.

@ 14.30 The demonizing of the 'Other' in all it's forms & guises....Be it women & their rights, colored folk, Muslims, the weak & dependent, Immigrants, humanitarian & Democratic proponents.

@15.15 Devoss, Prince & Blackwater as the Christian Rights armed wing....Mercenary forces on tap.

@15.55 The enabling of vigilantism by authoritarian govt with impunity to punishment & accountability (Sounds like their police force & the Feds currently to me).....See Hitler & the Brown-Shirts.....Turning a blind eye, while denouncing that which is sanctioned.....Plausible deniability.

@ 19.15 The destruction of public institutions....Communism had a first class education system: Check.....Full employment: Check....Full public health-care: Check.....All destroyed in the name of the 'free-market' which everybody confuses with the concept of Freedom as such....Hmmm....Maybe it wasn't all that bad after all>o_O

@ 20.20....With the dictates of a global market-economy predominate over government, then the rise of fascist movements is inevitable; given the destruction of all other avenues of Democratic checks & balances against it....Until we break the back of corporate power then the rise of such fascist movements is inevitable.

@ 21.00 The police-state is already in place throughout the U.S.....Ready for Trump to enact it's full enforcement against all citizens....People stripped of their rights....Hannah Arendt on the origins of Totalitarianism...."Once rights become privileges to a section of the community -illegals', then it a short-step to their withdrawal from everyone else....The Patriot Act & the annihilation of Habeus Corpus.

@ 23.10 Neo-Liberals as every bit as guilty of Trump alternative facts in their attempts to blame Putin & Russia.....The corporate East & West Coast has sold America out to the corporate fascist elites by stealth.....paving the way for Trump.....There is no opposition, the Dems currently are in collusion with Trump.....100% correct Mr Hedges....Now here's a bloke who can see peeps.

@ 23.45 All we have left are acts of civil disobedience. For Example: Occupy Wall Street, Standing Rock etc.

@24.25 "There are no institutions left in the U.S that are authentically Democratic to challenge these fascist forces. That can now only happen in the streets."

It's hard to disagree with the man.
 

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lol@abbymartin. Rita Panahi's confused twin. Nice legs though.

Chris Hedges. Ordained Presbyterian minister.

p35 completes the axis of stupidity with the time stamping.
 

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