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chelsworthgale said:
I thought we had a different one to that! that one isn't all that crash hot!

How long are you going to leave that Fraser Brown thing up for ? Isnt doing you any favours. Looks about as good as that jumper.
 
audas said:
How long are you going to leave that Fraser Brown thing up for ? Isnt doing you any favours. Looks about as good as that jumper.

You wouldnt want to see fraser brown come in... pump $600,000 needed dollars into the club, cause a spill of the board including Smorgan. Instill Richard Pratts son as president, get the pratt sponsorship money back that he widthdrew after the fall out with Smorgan?

Pratts son has some realitively good business credentials. Went over the US and set up the whole Visyboard brand over there. Not a bad effort in such a wasteful society. R Pratt has been quoted as should Smorgan leave he would put $7 million into the club to clear the legends stand debt. Brown is backed by the Pratts and a select group of big businesses willing to pump much needed sponsorship money into the club. To me that is a win win situation. Should we lose pagan in the coup then so be it, after two wooden spoons that isnt a bad thing.

You must remember we almost went under mid year, without that AFL $1.5million we would of been gone! Thats reality bud!
 
chelsworthgale said:
I thought we had a different one to that! that one isn't all that crash hot!

We do...I don't know what jackass came up with those rubbish jumpers, but they are never going to be worn by Carlton. Our alternate jumper for next year is silver with a navy CFC monogram and navy bars down each side.
 
chelsworthgale said:
R Pratt has been quoted as should Smorgan leave he would put $7 million into the club to clear the legends stand debt.
He was rumoured to have said that. He was quoted as refuting the rumour.
 
The Old Dark Navy's said:
He was rumoured to have said that. He was quoted as refuting the rumour.

I stand corrected, but at this point because of Smorgan we receive no sponsorship from Pratt. With the potential income from pratt get him back on board!
 

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chelsworthgale said:
I stand corrected, but at this point because of Smorgan we receive no sponsorship from Pratt. With the potential income from pratt get him back on board!


Get Pratt back on board ?

Pratt has had a lot of opportunities to put his money where his mouth is, and nothing coming. Going over to the U.S. with daddies money means nothing and is definitely no credentials. The rest of your comments are speculation or wrong (as pointed out). So BUD, at the end of the day your are just backing brownie who wants pagan out. There could be nothing worse for the club. Pagan should stay, and at all costs someone with the character of Brown should not be allowed anywhere near this club.

We do not need another Elliot thankyou. Brown is a total thug who lacks all respect in the business comunity and is seen as an ignorant thugish brute without even basic manners. Money isnt everything mate, have some pride. Some rich blokes son, and Brown, and no coach....think about it.
 
audas said:
Get Pratt back on board ?

Pratt has had a lot of opportunities to put his money where his mouth is, and nothing coming. Going over to the U.S. with daddies money means nothing and is definitely no credentials. The rest of your comments are speculation or wrong (as pointed out). So BUD, at the end of the day your are just backing brownie who wants pagan out. There could be nothing worse for the club. Pagan should stay, and at all costs someone with the character of Brown should not be allowed anywhere near this club.

We do not need another Elliot thankyou. Brown is a total thug who lacks all respect in the business comunity and is seen as an ignorant thugish brute without even basic manners. Money isnt everything mate, have some pride. Some rich blokes son, and Brown, and no coach....think about it.

It is simple why Pratt hasnt put any money anywhere and that is Smorgon... its is simple the two dont see eye to eye and i agree why should he invest money in a sinking ship when the captain is out back playing marbles? Christ i wouldnt!

Pagan is a has been and shouldnt be there. The only reason he is there is because of the AFL and the fact that it will cost us $1.2 million to get rid of him and that is thanks for Collins not elliot!

Brown is ruthless thats why he has done so well in the construction industry where if your not ruthless you get eaten up by the big boys!

As for pratts son he was given money to go overseas and expand the company which he has done successfully... It's one thing to get the $$$ but another thing to make them work! The USA is one of the most wasteful societies in the world so to have a recycling company do so well over there is quite an achievement in terms of marketing etc.
 
chelsworthgale said:
It is simple why Pratt hasnt put any money anywhere and that is Smorgon... its is simple the two dont see eye to eye and i agree why should he invest money in a sinking ship when the captain is out back playing marbles? Christ i wouldnt!

Pagan is a has been and shouldnt be there. The only reason he is there is because of the AFL and the fact that it will cost us $1.2 million to get rid of him and that is thanks for Collins not elliot!

Brown is ruthless thats why he has done so well in the construction industry where if your not ruthless you get eaten up by the big boys!

As for pratts son he was given money to go overseas and expand the company which he has done successfully... It's one thing to get the $$$ but another thing to make them work! The USA is one of the most wasteful societies in the world so to have a recycling company do so well over there is quite an achievement in terms of marketing etc.


Unfortunately your response is void of logic pattawan.

Pratt has had ample opportunity to put money into the club when we have needed it desperately well before Smorgan so your argument is completely null.

Pagan is not a has been and only the most short sighted and ill-conceived of arguments have been behind this. Knee-jerkers like jimthegreat are the only ones who agree with this.

If being an arzehole is what it takes to get ahead inthe construction industry then I dont want anyone from that industry heading up the blues. It is a sad MYTH that that is what it takes to do well in business. You would do well to learn it. Most of the serious money in this world is made by hard working, intelligent people who are decent and stand by their word. Not pricks. There are a lot of people who are cheap, ruthless nasty people who make plenty of money , buts thats about it. They dont make serious money, and they certainly arent respected.

As for your final argument it is about as spurious as it gets. A country that lacks recycling would be the best place to introduce it, der. Market opportunity. Further to this the U.S. leads the world in conservation and environmental campainging by a long way. The problem with the states is the discrepency which occurs between the will of the people and the actions of its government. Do not judge the beliefs and actions of the vast majority of Americans by the actions of the coprorate controlled government. Even a cursory understanding of Chomsky, Saul, Said, Parenti, Vidal, Pilger will help you out with these concepts and logic in general.
 
Johnny_3 said:
true that, wouldnt mind another massive sponsership if it means $$$ and good to see an ontopic comment:thumbsu:
Wasn't poor Andrew Balkwill's solitary game for the Blues wearing that s hit? Poor bastard never got to wear the famous navy blue. Did we win that game? Did we sing 'We are the navy Blues', or did we just make it up on the spot?:D:D
 

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i saw this in another thread...i like it

better then carltons away strip for next year and looks more 'carlton'

the new one is weak IMO :eek: :)

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chelsworthgale said:
You wouldnt want to see fraser brown come in... pump $600,000 needed dollars into the club, cause a spill of the board including Smorgan. Instill Richard Pratts son as president, get the pratt sponsorship money back that he widthdrew after the fall out with Smorgan?

Pratts son has some realitively good business credentials. Went over the US and set up the whole Visyboard brand over there. Not a bad effort in such a wasteful society. R Pratt has been quoted as should Smorgan leave he would put $7 million into the club to clear the legends stand debt. Brown is backed by the Pratts and a select group of big businesses willing to pump much needed sponsorship money into the club. To me that is a win win situation. Should we lose pagan in the coup then so be it, after two wooden spoons that isnt a bad thing.

You must remember we almost went under mid year, without that AFL $1.5million we would of been gone! Thats reality bud!
Heard on the weekend from a friend of Richard's that he has been diagnosed with prostate cancer and given about 12 months....Terrible news
 

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