Amazing coincidences in football

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emuboy

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1910 Edward VII died and was succeded by George V, Collingwood won the Grand Final
1936 George V died and was succeeded by Edward VIII, Collingwood won the Grand Final, the first and only premiership under the regin of Edward VIII who abdicated in December that year.

1952 - George VI dies and his eldest daughter Elizabeth becomes Queen Elizabeth II. Geelong win the VFL premiership, the first time the Cats had won a senior flag in an even year. Queen Mary, the consort and widow of George V, dies early in 1953 while Geelong are still reigning premiers.

Geelong win reserve grade premierships in 1948 (Prince Charles is Born), 1960 (Prince Andrew is Born) and 1964 (Prince Edward is Born). They also win reserves premierships in 1981 (marriage of Prince Charles and Princess Diana) and in 1982 (Prince William is born).

2002 - Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother (widow of George VI) and the Queen's younger sister Princess Margaret both die. Geelong win the 2002 VFL premiership over Port Melbourne, at that stage aligned with the Sydney Swans.

2011 - Prince William marries Kate Middleton, Geelong defeat Collingwood in the AFL Grand Final.

2022 - Queen Elizabeth II dies and Prince Charles becomes King Charles III. Geelong win their first senior premiership in an even year since 1952 and the first year of the late queen's reign with a crushing victory over Sydney. King Charles III as a teenager was a student at Geelong Grammar.

So when will Geelong next win a senior premiership in an even year? Not for many years, the best hope for the Cats for a shorter wait is if Prince George (William and Kate's son) falls in love with and marries a somewhat crazy vegan activist girl from Australia, goes to live at a hippie commune near the NSW/Queensland border and renounces his claim to the crown and also declares he will never have children. Therefore when King William V dies, daughter Charlotte becomes Queen Charlotte I of England, dowager consort Kate the Queen Mother and Geelong lift the premiership cup in an even year for the first time since 2022 with a massive win over the Northern Territory Buffalos. If however Prince George stays on the straight and narrow to succeed his father, then Geelong fans better hope that George's first born is a girl. And even if Prince George's first child is female, it's still a long, long wait for another reigning Queen of England ....
 
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1952 - George VI dies and his eldest daughter Elizabeth becomes Queen Elizabeth II. Geelong win the VFL premiership, the first time the Cats had won a senior flag in an even year. Queen Mary, the consort and widow of George V, dies early in 1953 while Geelong are still reigning premiers.

Geelong win reserve grade premierships in 1948 (Prince Charles is Born), 1960 (Prince Andrew is Born) and 1964 (Prince Edward is Born). They also win reserves premierships in 1981 (marriage of Prince Charles and Princess Diana) and in 1982 (Prince William is born).

2002 - Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother (widow of George VI) and the Queen's younger sister Princess Margaret both die. Geelong win the 2002 VFL premiership over Port Melbourne, at that stage aligned with the Sydney Swans.

2011 - Prince William marries Kate Middleton, Geelong defeat Collingwood in the AFL Grand Final.

2022 - Queen Elizabeth II dies and Prince Charles becomes King Charles III. Geelong win their first senior premiership in an even year since 1952 and the first year of the late queen's reign with a crushing victory over Sydney. King Charles III as a teenager was a student at Geelong Grammar.

So when will Geelong next win a senior premiership in an even year? Not for many years, the best hope for the Cats for a shorter wait is if Prince George (William and Kate's son) falls in love with and marries a somewhat crazy vegan activist girl from Australia, goes to live at a hippie commune near the NSW/Queensland border and renounces his claim to the crown and also declares he will never have children. Therefore when King William V dies, daughter Charlotte becomes Queen Charlotte I of England, dowager consort Kate the Queen Mother and Geelong lift the premiership cup in an even year for the first time since 2022 with a massive win over the Northern Territory Buffalos. If however Prince George stays on the straight and narrow to succeed his father, then Geelong fans better hope that George's first born is a girl. And even if Prince George's first child is female, it's still a long, long wait for another reigning Queen of England ....
Who are all these random people?
 

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Both SA teams have lost only 1 Grand Final to a Victorian team, who had a premiership draught of 3 decades or more coming into their Grand Finals. Port Adelaide lose to Geelong in 2007; Geelong had a premiership draught of 44 seasons. Adelaide lose to Richmond in 2017; Richmond had a premiership draught of 37 seasons. These Grand Finals happening 10 years a part, and then both SA teams go onto miss out on finals for the next 5 seasons (PA, 2008-2012, AD 2018-2022). Their respective GF opponents would go onto win 2 more premierships (Geelong 2009 and 2011, Richmond 2019 and 2020), during their SA GF opponent's 5 season finals absence.
 
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Former Collingwood premiership player Craig Kelly wore the #23 during his playing days

His CEO tenure will start in 2023.
 

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Some Chinese zodiacs and footy coincidences

West Coast have won a premiership in every year of the Dog since it’s inception (1994, 2006, 2018)
Western Bulldogs have lost grand finals in a year of the Ox (1961, 2021)
 

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Both SA teams have lost only 1 Grand Final to a Victorian team, who had a premiership draught of 3 decades or more coming into their Grand Finals. Port Adelaide lose to Geelong in 2007; Geelong had a premiership draught of 44 seasons. Adelaide lose to Richmond in 2017; Richmond had a premiership draught of 37 seasons. These Grand Finals happening 10 years a part, and then both SA teams go onto miss out on finals for the next 5 seasons (PA, 2008-2012, AD 2018-2022). Their respective GF opponents would go onto win 2 more premierships (Geelong 2009 and 2011, Richmond 2019 and 2020), during their SA GF opponent's 5 season finals absence.
To add to the coincidences:

In 2007, Adelaide also played finals but lost an Elimination Final to Hawthorn by less than a goal (3 points). Hawthorn lost their Semi Final the next week but returned the next year in 2008 to win the Premiership.

In 2017, Port Adelaide also played finals but lost an Elimination Final to West Coast by less than a goal (2 points after Extra Time). West Coast lost their Semi Final the next week but returned the next year in 2018 to win the Premiership.
 

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Apologies if this one has already been mentioned, but the stark parallels are just too weird to not bring it up.


2007 GF: Geelong vs Port, Final Score - 163 - 44.

119 point margin.

2011 GF: Geelong vs Collingwood, Final Score - 119 - 81. Cameron Ling our retiring captain, kicks a goal in the final quarter with 5 minutes to go.

2022: Geelong vs Sydney, Final Score - 133 - 52.

81 point margin. Joel Selwood our retiring captain, kicks a goal in the final quarter with 5 minutes to go.

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Essentially, our final score against Collingwood was our margin in both our 2007 and 2022 Grand Finals. The odds of that are just insane when you think about it. Then the parallels with the retiring captains scoring goals just adds yet another layer.
 
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Apologies if this one has already been mentioned, but the stark parallels are just too weird to not bring it up.


2007 GF: Geelong vs Port, Final Score - 163 - 44.

119 point margin.

2011 GF: Geelong vs Collingwood, Final Score - 119 - 81. Cameron Ling our retiring captain, kicks a goal in the final quarter with 5 minutes to go.

2022: Geelong vs Sydney, Final Score - 124 - 53.

81 point margin. Joel Selwood our retiring captain, kicks a goal in the final quarter with 5 minutes to go.

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Essentially, our final score against Collingwood was our margin in both our 2007 and 2022 Grand Finals. The odds of that are just insane when you think about it. Then the parallels with the retiring captains scoring goals just adds yet another layer.


Don't you mean '133-52?'

124-53 is a margin of 71 points.
 

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1951 Geelong won the Premiership in the year of the cat.
1963 Geelong won the Premiership in the year of the cat.

2011 Geelong won the Premiership in the year of the cat
2023 ?



Unfortunately Richmond has only won one in the year of the Tiger - 1974
 

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Hawthorn broke the Kennett curse of 11 straight losses in 2013 Prelim

in the following weeks Grand Final, Hawthorns score was 11 11........to take home there 11th flag
 

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2010 AFL team with Magpies nickname won the replay after drawing 9.14.68 to 10.8.68 in the grand final

2012 SWFL team with Magpies name won the replay after drawing 9.14.68 to 10.8.68 in the grand final
 

emuboy

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Malcolm Blight coached the Adelaide Crows to successive Grand Final victories over St Kilda and North Melbourne in 1997 and 1998 respectively, the teams he would begin and end his coaching career with unsuccessful tenures of less than a year.

In 1981 Malcolm Blight was appointed playing coach of North Melbourne, but the Kangaroos had a poor season and even by that stage the game at the highest level had gone beyond it being practical to have a captain-coach on the field. Twenty years later Blight commenced a coaching tenure at St Kilda in 2001, but it simply didn't seem to work out, and Blight departed after the Saints were thrashed somewhat ironically by the Adelaide Crows in Round 15.
 

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Watched an afl mini of the 2007 grand final earlier today.

With 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter the camera veered to Stewart Dew and the commentators remarked he had retired the previous year.

In 2008 with about 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter Stewart Dew set hawthorn up for a premiership.
 

emuboy

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Neither the Phoenix Suns or the Gold Coast SUNS have won the title

Bears seems to be an unlucky team sporting emblem too.

The Brisbane Bears lasted just 10 years (1987-1996) before merging with Fitzroy to form the Brisbane Lions in 1997, the team really struggling in their early years both on and off the field.

The Caulfield Bears, which replaced Brighton in the VFA from 1965, never really lived up to their potential and their tenure of 23 seasons from 1965-1987 produced just one VFA Division 2 flag, and the team departed by forfeiting its last match in 1987 second division, a fairly inglorious ending for a team at this level of football.

The North Sydney Bears, a foundation 1908 NSWRL team had to wait 13 years to secure its first premiership in 1921, and it quickly added the 1922 trophy to the cabinet. But after that, 21 years went by until Norths made the 1943 Grand Final, but it didn't go well to put it mildly. Newtown thrashed the Bears 34-7, and things only got worse for the Bears and their fans post war. If it wasn't bad enough that the Bears never made another senior Grand Final much less won one, if it wasn't bad enough that the Bears spent many long years languishing at or near the bottom of the ladder, if it wasn't bad enough that in improved eras for the club such as the 1990s they suffered heart-breaking finals losses in their attempts to make the premiership decider, up-starts and intense local rivals the Manly Sea Eagles (which entered in 1947) developed into a super-power and won many premierships. After the competition size was reduced after the 1999 season, Norths due to their poor financial position were forced into a loveless joint venture with Manly and Central Coast Rugby League called the Northern Eagles, which lasted just two years from 2000 to 2001 before reverting to Manly, leaving the Bears out of the NRL. They have tried unsuccessfully to date to regain entry, but still have not done so to date, 101 years after their last senior premiership.

Overseas the Bears curse seems to affect the city of Chicago. With just one team in the NFL for such a big population, the Chicago Bears haven't been able to take advantage of this, and their only super bowl victory was way back in 1985. The Chicago Cubs, which use a bear cub as their emblem, famously had a 108-year world series drought lasting 1908-2016.

Back in Australia, Gold Coast rugby league team the Burleigh Bears seem to have largely avoided the jinx, being a super-power of the Queensland Cup in the late 1990s and early 2000s, but even they would experience an absence of a decade from the finals from 2006-2015, before re-emerging as a premiership team in the mid 2010s. A 10-year finals absence is quite odd for a powerful team that largely had no opposing Gold Coast teams in this league during these years.
 

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Watched an afl mini of the 2007 grand final earlier today.

With 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter the camera veered to Stewart Dew and the commentators remarked he had retired the previous year.

In 2008 with about 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter Stewart Dew set hawthorn up for a premiership.
He also shares his name with Mountain Dew, which is the best soda ever made.
 

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Watched an afl mini of the 2007 grand final earlier today.

With 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter the camera veered to Stewart Dew and the commentators remarked he had retired the previous year.

In 2008 with about 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter Stewart Dew set hawthorn up for a premiership.
Even spookier, add 2007 and 2008 then divide the total by 10 (being 5 + 5), you get 401.5, which is Dew's current approximate weight in pounds 😲.
 

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