An open memo to all umpires - CALL THE NO BALLS!!!

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Seriously, it is becoming ridiculous how many times that they are asking for no-balls to be checked after wickets fall

How about you do you jobs and call them when they happen instead of relying on technology to do your job for you

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(I see that Prior ended up being given out, think my argument is still valid though)
 

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The third umpire should watch for the no balls, the umpires should concentrate on more important things.
 

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The third umpire should watch for the no balls, the umpires should concentrate on more important things.
yep that would be best thing. just have a light, kinda like a linesman has his flag up for off side on soccer.

To the OP, you have to realise that the umps are standing 5 metres from the line and are totalling on the wrong angle to call no balls, if its close your just guessing.

Lets not have series based on guesses when we dont have to.
 

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By all means, leave it to the third umpire. Let the one at the bowling crease focus on what's happening at the other end. By the time the no ball is called, the ball is at least half way down the pitch, so it's not like it would deny the batsman a chance to have a slog.
 

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yep that would be best thing. just have a light, kinda like a linesman has his flag up for off side on soccer.

To the OP, you have to realise that the umps are standing 5 metres from the line and are totalling on the wrong angle to call no balls, if its close your just guessing.

Lets not have series based on guesses when we dont have to.
Agreed. Take it out of the hands of the on-field umps altogether.
Exactly, in this day and age with the bowlers bowling quick it's very stupid for the umpired to be looking down and then up. Use the third umpire to monitor the front foot, and watch how many good decisions will be made without the use of the UDRS.
 

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yep that would be best thing. just have a light, kinda like a linesman has his flag up for off side on soccer.

To the OP, you have to realise that the umps are standing 5 metres from the line and are totalling on the wrong angle to call no balls, if its close your just guessing.

Lets not have series based on guesses when we dont have to.
Yes a light for sure. A big red one that the 3rd umpire pushes after watching a live side on view then the on field umpire checks for the light after the ball is bowled and then he can put out his arm where necessary.
 

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Maybe I'm missing something here, having never been a bowler.

Is it really that crucial to be as close as possible to the line when delivering? Is there any reason for not jut bowling with your toe on the line instead of your heel, or even just from midway through the crease?

Surely the difference in the time the ball takes to reach the batsman is neglibly different if you're 12 or 18 inches further back, and the key to great bowling is placing the ball in the right spot anyway?

I just don't get why any bowler even goes close to the front line.
 

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12 or 18 inches could throw out a bowler's standard length somewhat.
I'm guessing it is a rhythym thing as much as anything, these reviews are relatively new and all the bowlers have learned their trade with their foot on the line (maybe over on a regular basis, if this is anything to go by).

How many no-balls are being bowled and not getting called?
 

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bump

2 years on and it's getting worse

granted the bowlers shouldn't be overstepping, but these ****silly people for umpires should be doing what they are paid to do and calling no balls when they happen, not relying on the tv to show their faults..
 

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bump

2 years on and it's getting worse

granted the bowlers shouldn't be overstepping, but these ****silly people for umpires should be doing what they are paid to do and calling no balls when they happen, not relying on the tv to show their faults..
Highlighted the pertinent part of your post. If it's a close call the umpires really have to check in the case of a wicket, not so much if there's no wicket as the impact is minimal. I'm surprised that bowlers haven't taken this account by now.
 

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bump

2 years on and it's getting worse

granted the bowlers shouldn't be overstepping, but these ****silly people for umpires should be doing what they are paid to do and calling no balls when they happen, not relying on the tv to show their faults..
It actually gives more credence for the call revert to the backfoot no-ball rule. Umpires have such a short time to look at the popping crease and then up the pitch that they can be 100% positive on the tight calls like Pattinson's to Amla, the backfoot gives them more time and also gives the batsman more time to punish any bowler error.

Though for the life of me I've never worked out why bowlers try and get so close to the front line. Putting the ball of your foot on the line will only cost you less than 15cm, when you consider the reaction time it won't make the slightest bit of difference.
 

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I've heard a few people suggest that they don't bowl from a standard pitch length at training, both to force batsmen to react faster and to reduce wear and tear on the practice pitch. I wonder how much that contributes to the misjudgment.
 

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Just put a ******* sensor in the crease; if there isn't any weight from a foot back from the front of the crease, then sound an air-rad siren or something.
 

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The issue is the rule is not being applied consistently. Umpires only refer no-balls in the case of a wicket, leaving many other no-balls uncalled. One problem with this is that bowlers are not getting the feedback they should regarding no-balls - if more were called (ie the ones umps are unsure of but do not lead to wickets) then the bowlers would adjust their stride accordingly.

For example, a bowler could bowl five consecutive 'borderline' deliveries. A referral would show them all to be illegal, but they are too close for the umpire to call, and he's not gonna waste everyone's time refferring a non-wicket no-ball. The sixth delivery results in a wicket. Umpire refers, no-ball is called. The bowler is unfairly punished for bowling the same way he has always continued to do unpunished.

The best result is to take it out of the hands of the ump, leave it to the third umpire. If that is not available, just leave it to the on-field with no referrals, unless the batsman ask for it.
 

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For example, a bowler could bowl five consecutive 'borderline' deliveries. A referral would show them all to be illegal, but they are too close for the umpire to call, and he's not gonna waste everyone's time refferring a non-wicket no-ball. The sixth delivery results in a wicket. Umpire refers, no-ball is called. The bowler is unfairly punished for bowling the same way he has always continued to do unpunished.
He shoudn't need to. A quiet word with the bowler that he is close to the line and maybe even over it, and therefore might be over-stepping if something gets referred, should see any bowler who values a wicket adjust a little.

I can't help wondering if that did not happen, and bowlers didn't know they were right on the edge. Was there simply a basic communication breakdown from the umpires, so many bowlers can't be so stupid. TV has shown these before the referrals came in, and that is why the no-ball is part of the referral process, but I don't recall there being so many as in that match.
 
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