And he'd be right

[Crow-mo]

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18584723%255E19742,00.html


Crows give blast
24 March 2006 Herald Sun
Andrew Capel


ADELAIDE chief executive Steven Trigg has fired a broadside at Victorian AFL clubs, accusing them of being ignorant.

Trigg responded to calls from Victorian clubs yesterday not to change the father-son rule – which could allow the Crows to pick up highly rated Glenelg teenager Bryce Gibbs in this year's national draft – by saying: "I am tired of Victorian clubs shooting off their mouths". He accused the Victorian clubs of not understanding Adelaide's submission, which he said called for a review of the father-son rule, not a tweak of it to allow the Crows access to the talented midfielder.

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It's good to know that our club spokesman, knows how we all feel.
problem is many of these clubs have tin pot administrators who couldn't run a social function in a brewery. Yet by virtue of their tin pot fiefdoms they get a larger voice then they are capable of.

 

[The Crows Truth]

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18584723%255E19742,00.html


Crows give blast
24 March 2006 Herald Sun
Andrew Capel


ADELAIDE chief executive Steven Trigg has fired a broadside at Victorian AFL clubs, accusing them of being ignorant.

Trigg responded to calls from Victorian clubs yesterday not to change the father-son rule – which could allow the Crows to pick up highly rated Glenelg teenager Bryce Gibbs in this year's national draft – by saying: "I am tired of Victorian clubs shooting off their mouths". He accused the Victorian clubs of not understanding Adelaide's submission, which he said called for a review of the father-son rule, not a tweak of it to allow the Crows access to the talented midfielder.

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It's good to know that our club spokesman, knows how we all feel.
problem is many of these clubs have tin pot administrators who couldn't run a social function in a brewery. Yet by virtue of their tin pot fiefdoms they get a larger voice then they are capable of.

Ahhhh Crow Mo im too quick for you AGAIN old son . Look at the FULL article on the thread below (the article from the Tiser is much more comprehensive)

 

[GoSarge]

Of course he is right. The Vic clubs are complaining because we are trying to get the rule changed to secure Bryce Gibbs. I do wonder if they are trying to deliberately misinterpret the rule to put pressure on the AFL to leave it as it is.

We are trying to get the rule changed 'So that the number of fathers available to ALL clubs' are approximately equal. Not to get any advantage over any other club, just so it is equal.

That is what our submission is all about, we want the rule assessed and amended if necessary.

 

[tinman]

Of course he is right. The Vic clubs are complaining because we are trying to get the rule changed to secure Bryce Gibbs. I do wonder if they are trying to deliberately misinterpret the rule to put pressure on the AFL to leave it as it is.

We are trying to get the rule changed 'So that the number of fathers available to ALL clubs' are approximately equal. Not to get any advantage over any other club, just so it is equal.

That is what our submission is all about, we want the rule assessed and amended if necessary.

That's been my argument all along - it is about numbers. Triggy is quoted recently as saying that we have only 20 fathers who qualify. There needs to be some equity with regards to the potential players available under the rule.

Making it about any player, Bryce Gibbs or Hector Smeckle, just muddies the waters, but it makes for better media headlines than "Crows seek equity in father son numbers". It is no surprise that the media has made the link with Gibbs, but this argument was always going to be based on numbers. On that basis I always thought that we had a reasonable argument to have the rule changed.

 

[portentous]

How much support have you had from other non-ignorant clubs?

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

FFS is this issue ever going to go away. I see a decision wont be made until April 20 at the earliest now.

 

[Crowked]

How much support have you had from other non-ignorant clubs?

None.

The only support we've had is from Port.

 

[Vader]

How much support have you had from other non-ignorant clubs?

Apparently it's a joint submission with Port (according to the article in the 'tiser) - so we have at least one club on our side!

 

[conVINCEd]

FFS is this issue ever going to go away. I see a decision wont be made until April 20 at the earliest now.

Is that when the next meeting is?

I don't understand why these baboons meet so infrequently. They are discussing some of the biggest issues in the game, e.g. the distribution of television rights money, and it is their job to run the game, and yet they meet every month or so.

WTF?

 

[Crowked]

Is that when the next meeting is?

I don't understand why these baboons meet so infrequently. They are discussing some of the biggest issues in the game, e.g. the distribution of television rights money, and it is their job to run the game, and yet they meet every month or so.

WTF?

It must be based on the parliamentary model. Meet very infrequently, spend 3 quarters of the time cracking gags and laughing at each other, then quickly wrap up the months issues and scoop them in the too hard basket, then bludge until next months meeting where they can do it all over again.

 

[Leaping Lindner]

Speaking of the father/son rule I heard Collingwood is in the process of suing the AFL over it, as the it cost Collingwood the 2003 Premiership.

 

[rayven]

How much support have you had from other non-ignorant clubs?

Queens Park Rangers offered us their support.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

How much support have you had from other non-ignorant clubs?

Nice one. How's life P?

 

[portentous]

Nice one. How's life P?

LG thanks Chokey.

I thought it would be in the 2 WA side's interest to support it too but I guess they've got other things to worry about ie drink drivers, assault charges, drug use, organised crime, the list goes on.

Of course, we at Port have no such problems.

 

[Glenno23]

LG thanks Chokey.

I thought it would be in the 2 WA side's interest to support it too but I guess they've got other things to worry about ie drink drivers, assault charges, drug use, organised crime, the list goes on.

Of course, we at Port have no such problems.

i think you will find the 2 clubs over here will be up for the changes too, as they have had as few F/S players as the 2 SA clubs

it hasn't really made the paper over here though....

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Ross Gibbs never played for the Crows. Bryce should not qualify for the Crows under the father son rule. Nor should any other player unless their father played for the club. Only sons of ex Port players should qualify for Port under the father son rule. (I'd exclude PAMFC players sons also).

 

[portentous]

i think you will find the 2 clubs over here will be up for the changes too, as they have had as few F/S players as the 2 SA clubs

it hasn't really made the paper over here though....

Been plenty of other footy related headlines over there though. Hopefully things will get back on track once the season proper starts. The F/S debate really needs a united front from as many clubs as possible.

 

[portentous]

Ross Gibbs never played for the Crows. Bryce should not qualify for the Crows under the father son rule. Nor should any other player unless their father played for the club. Only sons of ex Port players should qualify for Port under the father son rule. (I'd exclude PAMFC players sons also).

Disagree 100% here Toots. It would advantage the Vics clubs more than a one-sided draw already does.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Disagree 100% here Toots. It would advantage the Vics clubs more than a one-sided draw already does.

That's just the way the cookie crumbles. You can't pretend there's history where there is none. Besides how many father son's are that outstanding compared to other players in the draft? Don't forget you forego a draft pick to pick up a father son. Collingwood might well have been better off if they hadn't picked up all the Shaws and Clokes.

 

[Mong]

None.

The only support we've had is from Port.

Hahaha

Huge contender for post of the year.

 

[Mong]

Ross Gibbs never played for the Crows. Bryce should not qualify for the Crows under the father son rule. Nor should any other player unless their father played for the club. Only sons of ex Port players should qualify for Port under the father son rule. (I'd exclude PAMFC players sons also).

Agree. But the rule exists for us so why not milk it for all it's worth.

 

[cro_Magnum]

That's just the way the cookie crumbles. You can't pretend there's history where there is none. Besides how many father son's are that outstanding compared to other players in the draft? Don't forget you forego a draft pick to pick up a father son. Collingwood might well have been better off if they hadn't picked up all the Shaws and Clokes.

Big admission.

So Port Power have no history if your'e willing to exclude Port Magpies. Never thought I'd hear from a Power supporter but it's there in black and white, so to speak.

 

[Allefgib]

On the whole no history exists between Bryce Gibbs and the AFC why don't we let the kid decide?
Surely, he and his family know how strongly they feel about the Crows and whether playing for the Crows would feel like a significant F/S affliation for them. Lets fix the rule so it gives the pool available to Adelaide and Port that is more equitable then if Bryce is in that pool AND he wants to get picked up F/S.. well then it should be end of debate.

If Bryce agrees with others that there is no History between he and the Adelaide football club, well he can knock back the F/S tie to it and just go into the draft as no doubt a higher pick.

 

[Truck Rutten]

i think you will find the 2 clubs over here will be up for the changes too, as they have had as few F/S players as the 2 SA clubs

it hasn't really made the paper over here though....

Haven't West Coast had about 3 father sons already, and don't they also have some young gun coming through this year or next who is f/s eligible?

 

[Crow-mo]

Ross Gibbs never played for the Crows. Bryce should not qualify for the Crows under the father son rule. Nor should any other player unless their father played for the club. Only sons of ex Port players should qualify for Port under the father son rule. (I'd exclude PAMFC players sons also).

points duly noted, we will keep them on file, and if there are opportunities to which they apply in future we will be in touch.