News Andrew Thorburn is retaining legal counsel for wrongful termination by the Essendon Football Club. NOW WITH BIG BANGS

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We have gotten a little off track here.

We're talking about the EFC, not having a big theological debate. That's not the scope of this thread on this board.

Try the SRP for this type of discussion.

Thanks.
 

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No we’re talking about Chair of Homophobic religious extremist church, Andrew Thorburn appointed as Essendon CEO. Aaaaaand he’s gone. With a particular emphasis on homophobic religious extremist churches and what they believe. A divisive topic with a divisive response. Perhaps this thread would be better suited to the SRP board🤔
Come on. If you want to go away from the EFC related talk, go to SRP.
 
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Back to the topic

Essendon:

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Kidding, right?
Hey why don't you people come on over to the Ask a Christian thread and leave boring Andrew Thorburn to stew in the juice of his own making? You get to lock intellectual horns with actual Christians.

 
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Came here for the story about Thorburn retaining legal counsel, stayed for the explanation of how the universe began and its inevitable progression towards its own demise.
I think it’s great. It’s two fleas arguing about the nature of the dog they live on
 
Hey why don't you people come on over to the Ask a Christian thread and leave boring Andrew Thorburn to stew in the juice of his own making? You get to lock intellectual horns with actual Christians.

Yes, do this please
It’s really cool over there, Big Bangs for everyone!
 
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How can the universe be in such perfect synergy and order without a master behind it? Makes a lot more sense than dark matter and dark energy creating it, considering you can't detect it for a start. So apparently no body times nothing equals everything. Scientists can't prove the big bang theory, which is why its a theory. Why are humans so uniquely complex, set apart from all living things with a conscience, intellect and complex skill set.

To believe in the Big Bang is to believe in chance, so if thats the case why do humans bother forming government, making decisions, creating hierachies, order on the streets. The reality is every effect occurs by some cause, not chance. Fortune was a greek goddess, so if the big bang theory uses chance for logic, and makes the chance of a big bang responsible for all that happens. Using a greek god for the foundation of their theory is ironic when you consider they don't believe a god exists.

Chance has been transformed by athiests into a force of causal power. The world and everything in it was the cause of numerous random events. Nothing is the cause of everything? How irrational? How chaotic? How looney? I wonder when the next random event will take place, since that's apparently how it started? A random event which will be less random than before, when nothing became everything. So then we can presume the world will experience something soon when something becomes something completely different. Or maybe something becomes nothing again? How bizarre, how absurd, purely illogical and ridiculous!

It is actually more scientific that God created the universe than that of the big bang theory. The bible actually has a record of how the world came about.

Then there is the 5 scientific ideas of time, space, force, action and matter which were only suggested 200 years ago. If these scientific terms were eternal before the big bang, then how were things so chaotic causing a big bang? The first verse of the bible, Genesis 1:1 accounts for all 5. "In the beginning (time), God (force), created (action), the heavens (space) and the earth (matter). And this was written well before the 19th century when scientists suggested these 5 ideas for causing everything. Scientists cannot pinpoint the actual origin of everything. The bible does in one verse. It accounts for the ultimate origin of matter, space, time.

Therefore, each person who reads this first verse has a choice to make based on the evidence in front of them, the world you live in. Either you believe God did create everything or you believe he didn't. If he didn't you believe he doesn't exist, nothing makes any sense or has any purpose. If God was a creative intelligence who created the world, then creation is logical and understandable. It is rational and plausible.

So either the array of complex organisms and intelligence we observe reflect the wisdom and power of a personal creator, or all these orderly systems somehow evolved randomly and chaotically from dead matter, and this dead matter evolved from unproven matter, and no real sense can be made of anything.

Albert Einstein himself firmly believed there must be an intelligence that created everything. There are many many scientists who embrace God as the creator of the universe and thus His purposes and plans revealed in the Bible, and the significance of humans bearing His image.

Does this make my post more intellectually worthy for you?
This is why Andrew Thorburn shouldn’t be in charge of anything
 

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Osho

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You are kidding.

His views were questionable at best as opposed to the views of the club. You cannot have that.
Your original question was about voluntarily walking out. The issue of his views is another matter, would need to be tested. EFC did hire him knowing him.
 
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Thorburn barracked for Essendon since he was 5 and is a passionate supporter

nek minute I'm going to sue Essendon FC.

So much for being an Essendon surporter and the club he loves eh.

Good riddance not a true Essendon supporter

Essendon are the ones who hired and the left their supporter of 50 odd years in the dirt.

Nice double standards m8
 

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Essendon - the club where it all happens. Two decades of mediocrity and dreadful decisions.

Fully expecting Aaron Francis to transform into a really good player at the Swans, just to show how bad things were/are at Essendon.
Doubt it - if you look at any player who has left Essendon in the last decade I can't really think of any that have taken their games to the next level and become really good.

You'd have to go all the way back to Houli and Ted Richards.
 

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Doubt it - if you look at any player who has left Essendon in the last decade I can't really think of any that have taken their games to the next level and become really good.

You'd have to go all the way back to Houli and Ted Richards.
There was only a player who left in 2020 who had never made an AA squad at his time at the bombers who would then go on to make the best 22 team in 2022.
 

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