Angry Crows to meet with the Advertiser today!!!

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According to 5AA there is a meeting today between Stephen Trigg and Bill Sanders of the AFC and the Managing Director of the Advertiser at 2 pm this afternoon.

No journalists or editorial staff will be present.

The straw that broke the camel's back appears to be the article headed along the lines of "Is Gary Ayres the only one who has no faith in Matthew Bode"

This follows an obvious Crows denigration campaign by the Advertiser's journalists and editorial staff who write the headlines for each article.

This campaign started well before the season commenced and one could be forgiven for thinking that the aim of the campaign is to drive a wedge between club and players, and club and supporters.

Reporting is meant to always be based on truth fairness and honesty. The club quite rightly has had a gutsful of being publicly dealt the opposite hand by the Advertiser's footy department.

It'll be interesting to see where this meeting leads to.
 

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Geez this could get nasty.............will they also bring up the story the Advertiser printed on Wayne Carey's form and if he didnt kick more goals he would be dropped??????
 

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Who gives a fcku? Stop whinging and get on with their jobs. Carey should have been dropped after two games, he needed a wake-up call.

And so did Gary Ayres in his treatment of Matthew Bode.

It may be sensationalist, but its still based in truth.
 

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Originally posted by spindoctor
Who gives a fcku? Stop whinging and get on with their jobs. Carey should have been dropped after two games, he needed a wake-up call.

And so did Gary Ayres in his treatment of Matthew Bode.

It may be sensationalist, but its still based in truth.
You are Rucci.

"Based in truth" - what the hell does that mean.
 

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As I said...if you can read

Carey did need to be dropped if he didnt perform in 2 weeks.

Ayres was mistreating Bode.

Rucci is a ******** for twisting the headlines, but what media outlet doesnt do that? Cop it and get on with it.
 

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I hope they are going to demand the same standards of reporting when they beat a second rate side and the advertiser starts talking premierships.

Fact is in a two team town if you are going well you will have the tiser up your arse and if you aren't they will give you a flogging. Sensationalism sells. Blame the public.
 

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Originally posted by spindoctor
As I said...if you can read

Carey did need to be dropped if he didnt perform in 2 weeks.

Ayres was mistreating Bode.

Rucci is a ******** for twisting the headlines, but what media outlet doesnt do that? Cop it and get on with it.
Rucci doesn't write the headlines.

Honestly - the Crows have been performing badly, and the way the media is in SA, were always going to get hammered. Its a two team town so theirs lots of media attention.

Best thing the club can do is look within and get their team playing well. I guarantee - if the Crows win the next 5, the hounds will be off their backs - that is the ONLY way they can silence the media.
 

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Putting it simply, nothing ive seen in the advertiser is any worse than what has been written by most crows supporters on this board since the pre season began.

So really i dont see where the problem is...or where the intense Rucci bashing comes from. Hes only written (or copied if you will ;) ) what most Crowies here have written anyway.

In fact what the Advertiser has written has been quite mellow compared to a lot of posts on here!
 

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So there we have it! The Advertiser is the reason for the Crows' bad form.

Perhaps it is a bit of balancing after all the fawning the paper did in previous years.
 

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I have tried to remain impartial to what is written in the papers here, because, sadly, we are only a 1 Newspaper town so while there is no competition, the standard of reporting goes unchecked!! Like all journalism nowadays, its become more and more about the journalists opinions, and not just about reporting the events. Having said all this, I do find reading Mr Rucci to be "interesting" and he is pretty honest with what goes on during the game, but there has been an increasingly "mocking tone" in some of the stuff that has been written.
Case in point: While the Power "bloods" its younger players,ie: Surjan, Pettigrew, Chaplin. The tone of reporting is "Future looks great for the Power!! And when the Crows "blood" new players ie: Jericho, Bock, Hudson. The tone of reporting is "Are these players ready? Why did PlayerA get dropped?" But that tone also exsists right across all media too.
Just my Humble and I guess somewhat uneducated opinion.
PS I don't expect to have Smoke continually blown up the Crows collective backsides either!!!
 

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Originally posted by MrMeaner
So there we have it! The Advertiser is the reason for the Crows' bad form.

What a silly thing to say.

The AFC seem to be concerned though there is no confimration of this meeting, that the Advo is deliberatley exaggerating certain situations to make them worse and casue friction at the Club.

The Bode article for instance, quoted Bode who said Ayres had his full backing and respect and vice vers when the headline suggested just the opposite.

Most fans don't think its a big deal or that it matters either way. Its clearly an issue for the admin who are dealing with it, which is their job.

Its not a big issue and certainly no-one is blaming our form slump on the media.
 

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Originally posted by Jars458
What a silly thing to say.

The AFC seem to be concerned though there is no confimration of this meeting, that the Advo is deliberatley exaggerating certain situations to make them worse and casue friction at the Club.

The Bode article for instance, quoted Bode who said Ayres had his full backing and respect and vice vers when the headline suggested just the opposite.

Most fans don't think its a big deal or that it matters either way. Its clearly an issue for the admin who are dealing with it, which is their job.

Its not a big issue and certainly no-one is blaming our form slump on the media.
There are at least half a dozen threads on the first page of this forum all saying similar things to the Advertiser. ("Its Time To Go Carey & Burns", "Tank This Team Now" etc) - not to mention several threads calling for Ayres head.

It seams to me that the negative focus on the Crows is not just limited to the Advertiser.
 

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Put in the performances and the crap will stop. Look and play like we have and the innuendo will continue.

Simple.

Are we so fragile as to be hurt by media half truths? We won't win another game this season if that is the case.
 

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Originally posted by napsyd
Put in the performances and the crap will stop. Look and play like we have and the innuendo will continue.

Simple.

Are we so fragile as to be hurt by media half truths? We won't win another game this season if that is the case.
Ex-****ing-actly.

The club made fine use of the media all offseason when they boasted about being a top-4 side... now they're publicly sooking when there's an inevitable backlash to our insipid performance?!!

It just gets better and better...
 

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The tone here seems to be that the Adelaide Football Club is above media examination and criticism.

That is patently ridiculous and the local media should be free to report on whatever they feel deserves reporting. Why shouldn't they look at things like our selection processes?

The club should spend more time trying to get the sinking ship that is our 2004 season back afloat again, than worrying about what a few media commentators think.
 

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Originally posted on the Port Board by Macca19
Its more the headlines than anything else i think.

The Advertiser, especially Rucci, have been extremely critical of the Crows so far this year stemming back from the start of the pre season and the first viewing of their new gameplan. Rucci and co. were very harsh in their opinion of the new gameplan, Ayres, Carey, some coaching moves etc.

In reality tho all of what the Advertiser journos have said has been said numerous times on the Crows board in the same time period.
Originally posted on the Port Board by Kane McGoodwin
Yeah, the headlines will often sensationalise the article in attmpt to sell more papers. That's never going to change. The Crows deserve to have articles questioning their performances as they have in the most been ordinary. The best way of preventing all this negative publicity is winning a damn game of footy. Hopefully that starts this week!
 

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Re: Re: Angry Crows to meet with the Advertiser today!!!

Originally posted by DaveW
The tone here seems to be that the Adelaide Football Club is above media examination and criticism.

That is patently ridiculous and the local media should be free to report on whatever they feel deserves reporting. Why shouldn't they look at things like our selection processes?

The club should spend more time trying to get the sinking ship that is our 2004 season back afloat again, than worrying about what a few media commentators think.
Well put. Its quiet obvious some Crow supporters can't handle the truth (good line for a movie, that).
 

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If they have a problem with the Bode story from last week, that's fair.

That was a fairly ordinary promotion for a fairly ordinary story. I can't blame them for being PO'd with that - the Advertiser handled it badly.

In general, if AFC have a problem with how they have been represnted in the press in 2004, then they really are soft.

Everything the Advertiser/5AA has thrown at them is the same predictable stuff thats been thrown at the Crows everytime they have a poor season. It's nothing new.

If you have been following the Crows in the press since 1991 - you should know what you are in for when things go wrong. I can see it coming and I'm just a fan. If the officials cant read the play and handle it...thats terrible.

I wrote this in March in the Rucci thread about the contrast between Port and Crows press in the pre season:

"Port havent (and may not) won every preseason match.

What they have done however is give the media and the fans something new to talk about. Cornes at CHB and the new game plan.

They are trialling new ideas - not just going into the new year with the same old thing. It might seem overhyped but at least they have reacted to their critics. They may continue to lose but they can say they've addressed their previous faults.

The players are backing it up and supporting it. How they have been training is reflected in their playing style.

In short - its all good PR from Port and it takes pressure off them before round 1.

Then there is us - we've started with some really dumb football. We've done very little to address the concerns from last year.

The players have not backed up the talk of a new gameplan, or their training on the field. It doesnt look like we've learnt anything.

In short, the way we have played and responded to our performances this week has made us easy targets for the local press esp Rucci. The story's in todays paper were predictable, and we've set ourselves up for it.

If we'd been losing but testing out a straighter gameplan, or hitting targets and kicking goals, they wouldnt get stuck into us half as much. We've given them far too much free ammo."

Macca19 said further down in that thread that the press were taking the Crows defensiveness for a ride. Totally spot on.

Port have tried new things and maintained their high standards.

Crows have not addressed their problem areas and continued with a game plan hardly anyone likes and continued their horrid form from late 2003.

AFC have no one else to blame but themselves for the majority of their bad press.
 

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For god's sake just take it like a man and move on. For crying out loud. If its the storties that have been published lately the only one I have a problem with is the Bode story. Its not the story that I have a probpem with but the headline itself.

A headline should reflect what is the main point of the article. In this case headline and article were chalk and cheese. We can't blame Rucci for this because he does NOT write the headline. Headlines are written by editor.

Just forget this crap and get on with task at hand. Too precious IMHO.
 

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Stop acting like a bunch of sooks.
The Advertiser has been more than just friendly towards the Crows over the years.
Perhaps criticism in the local paper has come as a shock because you lot are not used to it.
 
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