Another "Honourable loss"

[sabre_ac]

Im fast getting tired of this shit.
Once again we managed to loose a game we had every opportunity to win

Pavlich showed his potential
Haselby showed his potential
Bandy showed his ability
and our mid field was on top for the majority of the game.

We had winners all over the game.
But we threw it away.

Im absolutely shattered, and dreaming of the day where waterhouse can play a full game and longmuir has help from Micheal.

 

[Visro]

Well I made the bad mistake of going down into Freo territory today to the Sicilian (sp?) and saying to my aunts that I hoped Freo would lose cause I tipped against them. The number of looks I got from surrounding tables was amazing

Vis

 

[ptw]

sabre

there is no such thing....

so long as Freo view things as "honourable" they will not get anywhere....a loss is a loss and just not good enough.

clearly you feel the same way, but as a club Freo don't seem to "hurt" when they lose liek that....in the end they were flogged, but they might walk away thinking they did alright.

ptw

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by sabre_ac:
Im fast getting tired of this shit.
Once again we managed to loose a game we had every opportunity to win

Pavlich showed his potential
Haselby showed his potential
Bandy showed his ability
and our mid field was on top for the majority of the game.

We had winners all over the game.
But we threw it away.

Im absolutely shattered, and dreaming of the day where waterhouse can play a full game and longmuir has help from Micheal.

Honourable loss...what crap!!! If you lose you lose...you were in front at 3/4 time, you lost. Thats Fremantle supporters thinking for you...oh we only lost by 5 goals we did well!!!
0-5 Sabre...0-5, so much for being your year.
Time you started to think logically and say:
-Our team has problems
-Our team is struggling
-Our younger players, altho full of potential, are not consistent enough yet

If you still think you have a great team Sabre then you really are kidding yourself. This is not an anti fremantle campaign. This is realistic. Your team is not up to it at the moment...your team does not have the talent or ability to play 4 quarter football.

They are questions that need to be answered, everyone else can seem to see it but Fremantle supporters.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

It was going to be the upset of the year after 10 minutes, then you were outscored 72-8 in the last 20 minutes. Not much honour there! I can understand your frustration. Play great for 100 minutes and as bad as anybody in history has ever played for 20 minutes. It just doesn't add up.

 

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by Macca19:

Honourable loss...what crap!!! If you lose you lose...you were in front at 3/4 time, you lost. Thats Fremantle supporters thinking for you...oh we only lost by 5 goals we did well!!!
0-5 Sabre...0-5, so much for being your year.
Time you started to think logically and say:
-Our team has problems
-Our team is struggling
-Our younger players, altho full of potential, are not consistent enough yet

If you still think you have a great team Sabre then you really are kidding yourself. This is not an anti fremantle campaign. This is realistic. Your team is not up to it at the moment...your team does not have the talent or ability to play 4 quarter football.

They are questions that need to be answered, everyone else can seem to see it but Fremantle supporters.

Macca your anti freo bullshit is becoming more than anoying.
God I wish you were around when you side wasnt playing well maybe you wouldnt be so cocky.

We have a good young side
We have problems that arnt any of your buisiness.
We had a bad 20 mins
thats it.

From now on Macca just **** off, you have never said anything positive about Freo.
I dont attack your club and didnt last year.

Kick while there down ay macca you tool.
I bet your the first to dessert your team when its down, the one screaming loudest at the start of the year for Williams sacking and you now the supporter rubbing it in the most.

I have no respect for you or supporters like you.

This is not in any way an attack Port or the other supporters, JUST MACCA.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by sabre_ac:
Macca your anti freo bullshit is becoming more than anoying.
God I wish you were around when you side wasnt playing well maybe you wouldnt be so cocky.

We have a good young side
We have problems that arnt any of your buisiness.
We had a bad 20 mins
thats it.

From now on Macca just **** off, you have never said anything positive about Freo.
I dont attack your club and didnt last year.

Kick while there down ay macca you tool.
I bet your the first to dessert your team when its down, the one screaming loudest at the start of the year for Williams sacking and you now the supporter rubbing it in the most.

I have no respect for you or supporters like you.

This is not in any way an attack Port or the other supporters, JUST MACCA.

Sabre, you are officially a ****wit. How DARE you question my support of my team. I have NEVER questioned YOUR support of your team...have i?? Your the one that gets personal. You are the one with a problem...you cant even admit that Fremantle have a problem. you are WINLESS AFTER 5 ROUNDS SABRE YOU ****. Do you understand that??? ANY team that is worth its salt DOES NOT GO WINLESS FOR FIVE ROUNDS.

Point is, I came here January this year...If you wanna question my support of my team, go check the aussie-rules newsgroup and see the amount of posts under the name 'Macca' there from last year. Youd be surprised. Ive probably had the biggest number of posts in that newsgroup.

What makes a bad supporter is someone who cant admit when your own team has a problem.

You have a good young side?? What crap. PORT has a good young side, Port are 4-1. Freo have a bad young side full of "potential" nad "great youngsters" and they are winless. You cant say you have a good young side. Hawthorn has a good young side, and they are 5-0.
At least i can say my team HAS played well...you cant say that about Fremantle.

I am not cocky. I have stated Port are playing well...have i bragged??? NO. Have i stated we have the best youngsters and one of the teams with the most potential in the competition?? NO...YOU HAVE.

You say i have never said anything positive about Fremantle?? Please tell me Sabre what can i possibly say positive about Fremantle when they havent won a game this year??? How can you be positive about something like that??? You have two good youngsters in Haselby and Pavlich. You have one other great player in Bell and that is it,the rest are just hacks and rejects of other clubs.

In fact Fremantle have more potential than Port does...but Port is playing on confidence, and knows how to win a game.

I am not kicking while they are down...i have never said "ha ha you are crap" before. The post earlier was a fair comment about where Fremantle are that.

0-5, in a lot of trouble...if you think otherwise then basically Sabre you are the biggest ****wit on this earth. If you can possibly expect other people to say positive things abuot Fremantle when they are 0-5, then you have mental issues, and i suggest you see a doctor quickly. What is to say about 0-5. Its the "we lost, but we played well, so thats ok" mentality that has forced fremantle to the bottom of the table.

Ive always stuck by my team...always will. You really shouldnt say anything about things you dont know about Sabre...it will make you look even more foolish than you already are (if thats possible). ive never asked for Mark Williams, or any other of the coaches of Port Adelaide be sacked. Im one who believes its the players who play the game, if they dont pplay well its their fault not hte coaches...he cant put the boots on, its the plaeyrs responsibility. That cant be said about Freo fans...who asked for Neeshams head and are now asking for Drums head. Fact is, its your players that are crap not your coach. The coach can only play who he has on the list, and the list is not impressive.

I have no respect for you Sabre, as you cant hack any criticism of your club, even when its warranted. You think the sun shines out of Fremantles arse. Fact is... Fremantle have a losing mentality...you can have all the potential in the world, that doesnt mean shit if you cant win a game. I really hope for your sake that Fremantle win against Melbourne next week. You deserve one.

From now on Sabre, keep your head out your arse, and realise that Fremantle has problems...and if you cannot realise that when fremantle are 0-5, have never made the finals, have an underachieving, overrated list, and who have never had a "winning year" (more wins than losses) in a season, then you are a joke and a dickhead Sabre.

I still cant believe you expect me to commend fremantle and say something positive about them when their entire history has been one blunder. From the moment they started, trading Andrew Mcleod, its just been one big wank from then on. If you expect me to say something positive about Fremantle, tell your club to do something that deserves a positive attitude from a opposition supporter

 

[Macca19]

Plus Sabre...the only reason im rubbing this in, is because you were game enough to suggest that Fremantle were gonna do big things this year, and that they were a better team than Port were. You said this a number of times, and also bragged about the fact you beat us twice last year and finished above us...despite Ports 5-2 record over them.

Now that Port are 3rd, and Freo are winless, its time to ask about your assumptions and predictions. seeing as you struggle to be able to say the words "We arent very good", If only you could say those words Sabre...if only you were man enough to be able to say "we arent very good", then i wouldnt give you or your "team" shit. I wouldnt even mention it if you didnt overrate your side so much. Mind you its really hard to overrate your side and say its a good side when you are 0-5...it kind of stretches your credibility a tad you know

 

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[sabre_ac]

Macca for the past 5 weeks as soon as the dockers have lost.
The on poster that has comment every time and first is YOU.
Saying the same crap.
Thats wat anoyed me
You attack freo constantly and im sick of it.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by sabre_ac:
Macca for the past 5 weeks as soon as the dockers have lost.
The on poster that has comment every time and first is YOU.
Saying the same crap.
Thats wat anoyed me
You attack freo constantly and im sick of it.

Well Sabre you may have to get used to it. If Freo win say 2 games this year, to you think everyone will be full of praise for them, or do you think people will be saying that they are crap??
Im sick of hearing about how good Fremantle are and how good their players are. They obviously arent all that good if they cant put a win on the baord. That is what has annoyed me

 

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by Macca19:

Well Sabre you may have to get used to it. If Freo win say 2 games this year, to you think everyone will be full of praise for them, or do you think people will be saying that they are crap??
Im sick of hearing about how good Fremantle are and how good their players are. They obviously arent all that good if they cant put a win on the baord. That is what has annoyed me

Macca i expect your anti freo campaign to continue for the rest of you year.

 

[ptw]

I really don't wan't to get into your personal abuse session but.....

Macca...before anyone else says it...this time last year Port were 0-5. 90% of this game is played above the shoulders.

ptw

 

[Grave Danger]

Originally posted by ptw:
I really don't wan't to get into your personal abuse session but.....

Macca...before anyone else says it...this time last year Port were 0-5. 90% of this game is played above the shoulders.

ptw

Not quite true - Port beat Brisbane in round 4 last year, but we did only have one win and a draw by round 12, and then won 6 of our last 10 games, so things can turn around enough to save the coach's neck

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by sabre_ac:
Macca i expect your anti freo campaign to continue for the rest of you year.

For the last time..i dont have an anti Fremantle campaign. When Fremantle do something to deserve other peoples kind comments, praise and congratulations, i will give them as much as the next person. At the moment they have done nothing to deserve any praise at all, yet supporters of yyour club still give them praise for "honourable losses". Gives me the shits.

When Fremantle prove themselves as a power of the AFL, and a team that is hard to beat, then they will fully deserve the praise that will be rightfully given to them. At the moment, they dont deserve any praise.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by ptw:
I really don't wan't to get into your personal abuse session but.....

Macca...before anyone else says it...this time last year Port were 0-5. 90% of this game is played above the shoulders.

ptw

We were actually 1-4.

 

[Guest]

Macca,

In my opinion, Fremantle have a good young side that is a great base to work on for the future. But Freo do have to get out of their losing culture. They just don't seem to know how to land the killer blow.

There is no doubt that the Dockers have been "competitive", and there is no shame in that. But i don't believe that you can label every loss like this as "honourable". To me...that sounds like a cop-out.

When (if?) a winning culture is entrenched into the psyche of the club, i'm sure they will be more than competitive.

 

[Frodo]

Well, I only watched the last quarter and Freo were very poor. It mainly stemmed from the ruck where MacDonald was killing them but Akermanis was very good too.
What's with this young Freo team. average age is 24.
I really yhink it's time for Drum to go.

 

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by Macca19:

For the last time..i dont have an anti Fremantle campaign. When Fremantle do something to deserve other peoples kind comments, praise and congratulations, i will give them as much as the next person. At the moment they have done nothing to deserve any praise at all, yet supporters of yyour club still give them praise for "honourable losses". Gives me the shits.

When Fremantle prove themselves as a power of the AFL, and a team that is hard to beat, then they will fully deserve the praise that will be rightfully given to them. At the moment, they dont deserve any praise.

Why do you think i put honourable in speach marks.
Could it be maybe that i dont agree with it.
Yer I think thats why i did it.

Maccca you dont attack any of the other down and out clubs.
You have more of a deal out of the Freo losses than when you beat you arch rival the crows.

So yes you have a anti Freo Campaign.

 

[Frodo]

Just looked at the stats. 25-12 Free kick count to Freo and a whole heap of behinds to the Lions.
Honourable loss!!! I should say from the stats that Freo were lucky not to have come away with a 100 point belting. 46 scoring shots to 27. Thats 19 scoring shots more than Freo. Sabre, you just have to get your head out of the clouds and stop posting atter rubbish. The facts speak for themselves. Freo are a very poor side.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by Frodo:
Well, I only watched the last quarter and Freo were very poor. It mainly stemmed from the ruck where MacDonald was killing them but Akermanis was very good too.
What's with this young Freo team. average age is 24.
I really yhink it's time for Drum to go.

Well if Freos side average age is 24, how can it be young??
Ports average age is 24 as well.
Ports younger brigade (under 23 or even under 21) are much more established and better footballers than Fremantles "potential" lot

Here is a list of the established under 23 players:
Burgoyne
Carr
Cornes
Dew
Guerra
Lockwood
Nick Stevens
Tredrea

Put them up against Fremantles crop of Under 23s and see how they go...ill put money on them being better, more skilled and more potential than fremantles lot.

You can have all the potential in the world but until you do something with that then you are just hacks.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by sabre_ac:

Why do you think i put honourable in speach marks.
Could it be maybe that i dont agree with it.
Yer I think thats why i did it.

Maccca you dont attack any of the other down and out clubs.
You have more of a deal out of the Freo losses than when you beat you arch rival the crows.

So yes you have a anti Freo Campaign.

The other down and out clubs??

North - probably the most succesful team in recent history, a team in the last 7 or 8 years that have done no worse than a preliminary final. They are now in a rebuilding stage, and will be for some time

Adelaide - 2 premierships...a couple of really poor seasons, also in a rebuilding stage

Fremantle - just another poor year

You dont get it Sabre. This is just another year for Fremantle. Its no real shock, its not a big deal...other supporters are used to fremantle not being a threat and being down the ladder. Fremantle have NEVER been a threat. If i had of BRAGGED about the Showdown victory, i would of been called a sore winner, which im not. Im man enough to admit when we play well, and when we play bad, and when we are average, im also man enough to admit when my team is in trouble, and when an opponent is a better team and deserves praise. You arent like that. You praise and praise fremantle for no apparent reason. They are 0-5, you claim they are better than port who are third and 4-1, and you claim this on LAST SEASONS results, when things were MUCH different to the current situations.

Fremantle ar ein trouble, they are crpa, they have a bad list, that is the gist of it. What else is there to say?? I say all these things as idiots like you want to praise fremantle for having a great "young" list, which is full of potential. Your also the type of supporter that sprouts, "this is our year, we will be great this year" every single year. And what has happened EVERY SINGLE YEAR...you have come 13th, 13th, 12th, 15th, 15th, 12th...gee great efforts there. I will praise fremantle when they deserve it. I am sick to death of hearing every year how great freo will be, and how great there list is, and it just needs to come together. its a crok of shit. A team that has never finished higher than 12th is not a great team with great potential. its a bottom 8 club with a fairly average list. A team that has a 32% win loss record.


For the last time i have nothing against FREMANTLE, i have something against supporters of clubs not being able to admit when there club is introuble.
Freo have won 5 of their last 20 games..that isnt a good record.

I actually picked Fremantle to be about midfield, having a decent crack at a top 8 finish. Boy how i was wrong. They unfairly get overrated every year just by their supporters overrating theur young players.
Its getting beyond a joke. "Honourable Loss" isnt an excuse anymore. You have honourable losses in your first two years as a club, and when you get pipped at the post (ie. ANZAC DAY was an honourable loss) but honourable loss is not a word i would apply to a team that losses by over 8 goals after being 15 points up in the last quarter and let the oppostion kick something like 72-8 in 15 minutes!!
Fremantle supporters are the only supporters in the competition you cannot admit they have problems.

If you dont believe i thought Port ha problems last year..go to deja.com and read all the posts by Macca on the aus.sport.aussie-rules newsgroup. Theres over 1500 posts there from last year i think. Have a good read

 

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by Macca19:

The other down and out clubs??

North - probably the most succesful team in recent history, a team in the last 7 or 8 years that have done no worse than a preliminary final. They are now in a rebuilding stage, and will be for some time

Adelaide - 2 premierships...a couple of really poor seasons, also in a rebuilding stage

Fremantle - just another poor year

You dont get it Sabre. This is just another year for Fremantle. Its no real shock, its not a big deal...other supporters are used to fremantle not being a threat and being down the ladder. Fremantle have NEVER been a threat. If i had of BRAGGED about the Showdown victory, i would of been called a sore winner, which im not. Im man enough to admit when we play well, and when we play bad, and when we are average, im also man enough to admit when my team is in trouble, and when an opponent is a better team and deserves praise. You arent like that. You praise and praise fremantle for no apparent reason. They are 0-5, you claim they are better than port who are third and 4-1, and you claim this on LAST SEASONS results, when things were MUCH different to the current situations.

Fremantle ar ein trouble, they are crpa, they have a bad list, that is the gist of it. What else is there to say?? I say all these things as idiots like you want to praise fremantle for having a great "young" list, which is full of potential. Your also the type of supporter that sprouts, "this is our year, we will be great this year" every single year. And what has happened EVERY SINGLE YEAR...you have come 13th, 13th, 12th, 15th, 15th, 12th...gee great efforts there. I will praise fremantle when they deserve it. I am sick to death of hearing every year how great freo will be, and how great there list is, and it just needs to come together. its a crok of shit. A team that has never finished higher than 12th is not a great team with great potential. its a bottom 8 club with a fairly average list. A team that has a 32% win loss record.


For the last time i have nothing against FREMANTLE, i have something against supporters of clubs not being able to admit when there club is introuble.
Freo have won 5 of their last 20 games..that isnt a good record.

I actually picked Fremantle to be about midfield, having a decent crack at a top 8 finish. Boy how i was wrong. They unfairly get overrated every year just by their supporters overrating theur young players.
Its getting beyond a joke. "Honourable Loss" isnt an excuse anymore. You have honourable losses in your first two years as a club, and when you get pipped at the post (ie. ANZAC DAY was an honourable loss) but honourable loss is not a word i would apply to a team that losses by over 8 goals after being 15 points up in the last quarter and let the oppostion kick something like 72-8 in 15 minutes!!
Fremantle supporters are the only supporters in the competition you cannot admit they have problems.

If you dont believe i thought Port ha problems last year..go to deja.com and read all the posts by Macca on the aus.sport.aussie-rules newsgroup. Theres over 1500 posts there from last year i think. Have a good read

You know you remind me of Dan.
Thinking your right about things you have no idea about.
Ramming you opinion down other peoples throat
.
You want my under 23 brigade
Try these apples

Haselby
Pavlich
Brown
Walker
Black
j.Longmuir
Koops
Schell
T. Longmuir

Did you notice that allot of those players were key position players.

More than enough to suggest that Fremantle have a future.

And Macca I dont have to admit anything to you.

 

[BIG POPPA PUMP]

Why can't we all just...get along

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by sabre_ac:

You know you remind me of Dan.
Thinking your right about things you have no idea about.
Ramming you opinion down other peoples throat
.
You want my under 23 brigade
Try these apples

Haselby
Pavlich
Brown
Walker
Black
j.Longmuir
Koops
Schell
T. Longmuir

Did you notice that allot of those players were key position players.

More than enough to suggest that Fremantle have a future.

And Macca I dont have to admit anything to you.

hahaha...you think that list is gonna get you somewhere in the afl?? Youve got to be joking me. Give me Haselby Pavlich and Black, and you can keep the rest. There is no way the rest would get on an AFL list other than Fremantle...and maybe West Coast. Schell isnt anything special. The longmuirs are overrated, Walker is reasonable, Koops - dont make me laugh, and Brown, no thanx.

If that is your core bunch of players then youve got to be on drugs to think they are gonna give you a bright future. They may be Apples, but only 2 of them are ripe.

You dont have to admit anything, but you look a fool to suggest fremantle has a bright future with that list. The only thing fremantle has in many years down the bottom.