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i am hearing what you are saying, but the selectors seem to get these choices right. so i am willing to trust their judgement
 
9 NSW players selected in the Australian and Australian A sides.

And dont forget Dion Nash and Brad Haddin were in the origanil Aus A side but got injured today.
They were replaced by Bichel and Seccombe.

Whose Greg Blewett got photos of ?
Jimmy Maher should get a game ahead of him.

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Why does everyone seem to get so upset at NSW players getting selected for the national team.
The people saying Bracken is undeserving are probably the same ones saying Inness should get a go (not much difference in experience or ability). Don't forget Dizzy Gillespie was a nobody when he made the national team, and he was probably our best bowler against the Windies, as was Ian Healy when he first made the team.
Don Nash would have also been an excellent choice - he bowls fast, gets good bounce and is a terrific run-a-ball slogger coming in at 8 or 9, the perfect pinch-hitter if required.
Brad Haddin would have been an obvious choice as reserve keeper because of his quick and consistent scoring, as well as being a sound gloveman.
And have people also noticed that when the NSW team is full of its stars, they win all the time....hmmm must be because they are actually good players that get selected for international duties
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Nathan Bracken.
I have never heard of him actually. So is he a batter or bowler? And does he deserve the spot? I was glad to see that Darren Lehmann was recalled to the squad.

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Of course Bracken doesn't deserve a spot but the NSW media mafia have got him a spot infront of more deserving and qualified players.

What pisses me off is that due to the blatent NSW bias other class players from other states have to do that little bit extra to get picked. Fleming, Bichel, Kasprowitz, Reifel, Dale for example had to slog away for years before getting picked for Oz.

While this Bracken hack has played all of 2 games this season and 9 in his entire career with a pretty unflattering record of 22 wickets @ 30.63.

Inness has taken 29 wickets in 8 games this season, Dale 24 in 6 and Dawes 24 in 6 yet they all get screwed.

Why bother working your guts out when what you do on the field doesn't count but what state you come from does.

It's a friggin disgrace!

Oh and Darky re: Gillespie, where was he born and spend his childhood years? That may answer your question.
 
Bracken, it is total joke. I thought Inness was bowling well enough to get a go ahead of him.

JUB JUB- Blewey's been in really good form lately. His last few scores consecutively have been 49, 70, 43, 18, 260 no, 80 and 69. Admittedly, he hasn't done much in the one dayers but he took 4 wickets in the last Merc. match and his versatility must appeal to the selectors. However, I would have thought any chance he had of playing for Australia would have been in tests rather than in one dayers as he's never really done well in the shorter form of the game.

If anyone is doing any blackmailing it has to be Bracken's mum and dad.
 
Originally posted by Wendy The Twit:
Oh and Darky re: Gillespie, where was he born and spend his childhood years? That may answer your question.[/B]

You're kidding aren't you???? So the selectors picked Gillespie because he spent his childhood in NSW????

Not because they thought he might be the sort of accurate quick bowler who would have the class to get 70 test wickets @21 from 18 tests?
His debut was before Brett Lee came up and we had no tearaway quicks, and at the time Gillespie was the quickest of the decent bowlers available. The quicker ones like Harrity and Holdsworth bowled too much crap and didnt take enough wickets, so Gillespie was a terrific choice.

When selecting a team, you dont just go on performances at state level, you look at how well these players are likely to do at international level (e.g. Julian, Hayden and to a lesser extent Blewett and Martyn have all been excellent domestic players but struggle at the highest level).



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i dont have a problem with bracken being picked

gillispie did pull out through injury so bracken is his replacement

its good to see that they are given a kid a go

and i agree with inness not getting a go in this side, even though i know the bloke personally ( i did play one game with essendon in the seconds, and followed essendon district side since i was born, i know the bloke well, most of you think im bullshittin but anyway) inness is a test hope, isnt a great one day bowler, being a left arm swing bowler he consentrates on a line at middle stump, too easy to work away in one day cricket
inness is a future test bowler but not one day

im actually glad bracken is getting a go and good luck to him
 
Originally posted by Darky:
You're kidding aren't you???? So the selectors picked Gillespie because he spent his childhood in NSW????

Not because they thought he might be the sort of accurate quick bowler who would have the class to get 70 test wickets @21 from 18 tests?
His debut was before Brett Lee came up and we had no tearaway quicks, and at the time Gillespie was the quickest of the decent bowlers available. The quicker ones like Harrity and Holdsworth bowled too much crap and didnt take enough wickets, so Gillespie was a terrific choice.

When selecting a team, you dont just go on performances at state level, you look at how well these players are likely to do at international level (e.g. Julian, Hayden and to a lesser extent Blewett and Martyn have all been excellent domestic players but struggle at the highest level).



darky you are spot on, agree with you 100%
i heard mark taylor say that at full fitness gillispie is equal too if not quicker than brett lee
gillispie is a champ, a great bowler, and has a heart the size of phar lap
i cant believe anyone could doubt his position in the side
 
He seems to have impressed during the MMC games this season so lets see if he can make the grade this summer. IF the selectors have got it horribly wrong - that should be seen as a blessing, they can make the changes for the 1 dayers in the Ashes tour.

I can see the selectors are looking towards the future of cricket and the next world cup team in south africa. Just remember that Bracken won't be playing for New South Wales this summer, but for Australia - so he's got my 100% support!
 

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I don't have a problem with Inness not being picked.
You can't pick him for an Aus A one-day game when the Vics don't even pick him in there one-day side.

Adam Dale [Aus A]or Colin Miller [didn't even make either team] should be in the senior team ahead of Bracken.

If Bracken was in the A side no one would complain.

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Im not a big fan of Bracken and im sure that he wont be in the 1st 11 side, He will be the 12th man. He will only be called into the side if Lee isnt able to play.

Bracken wont be in the squad after after the 1st 4 one dayers. If Fleming goes well for Aus A expect a call up.

Mags
 
Me, my mum and dad were eating tea in the lounge when the one day side came up on TV. Mum asked dad "Who is Bracken?".
"A New South Welshman." came the reply.
And that said it all.
 
walshy i know u agreed with me, but i have to disagree with you, you will find that inness actually concentrates on swinging the ball away from right handers, which is unusual. He seems to be working on bringing them back in though. Bracken i believe was picked due to length he bowls and thebounce he extracts. The bounce is the key to his bowling , like mcgrath the he is able to get more bounce then normal off a good length.
Once again i am willing to put my support behind the aussie selectors
 
Even though I am a Vic - I fully support the selectors decision. Sure, Inness has been bowling well - but only in 4 day games - he doesn't get picked in the one-dayers. Bracken has been performing in the one-dayers, and also started to take wickets in the 4 day games. Be mindful that Gillespie & Nash are injured (I'm assuming that Nash would be ahead of Bracken), and that the national team could do with a left-armer for balance. Dale, Kasprowicz & Fleming have all been injured, so why not look for a bit of variation and give the bloke a go? When Gillespie is fit again I'm pretty sure he'll take his spot anyway.
 
Originally posted by acuguy:
walshy i know u agreed with me, but i have to disagree with you, you will find that inness actually concentrates on swinging the ball away from right handers, which is unusual. He seems to be working on bringing them back in though. Bracken i believe was picked due to length he bowls and thebounce he extracts. The bounce is the key to his bowling , like mcgrath the he is able to get more bounce then normal off a good length.
Once again i am willing to put my support behind the aussie selectors


inness bowls a line at off to middle stump
his natural delivery is an inswinger although yes he does like most bowlers work the ball away
whilst this is great for longer versions of the game the line isnt ideal for one day cricket
even at essendon he struggled in one dayers
bracken is a good choice
bowls a good line and length
and i think he will play
and brett lee wont
 

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But the fact remains that Brackens figures don't justify his inclusion in the team.

"HE IS NOT WORTHY! HE IS NOT WORTHY"

Just another hack NSW player getting a game ahead of more deserving types from other states.

Will go down in the list of trivia questions like Cook, Stuart, Robertson in recent years. Players who if they didn't come from NSW would never of been picked for Australia.
 
Don't worry, once Bracken starts getting slogged by everyone from Lara to Flower he'll be out of the team soon enough... of course with S. Waugh as a buddy he might continue to get games, along with the fact we'll be winning anyway.
 
listen up you mob of w***ers ! This business that you go an about with bias by the selectors is the biggest joke I have ever heard from you lot ! Why would the selectors put their job on the line by not picking the best players available ? Theres no sense in it, good luck to Bracken and lets hope he proves a few morons wrong !

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I think Bracken's selection says more about the boring, defensive nature of one day cricket that any bias. The selectors were looking for someone who can just put the ball on a spot for 10 overs and concede 4 runs an over or less. Stuff wicket taking ability.

I hope he does well but as someone else said, when the team is winning it's pretty easy to keep your place.

I'm wrapped for Darren Lehman though, his form over a long time has been sensational and he deserves another opportunity.
 
Bill Nose All (a.k.a Wendy The Pigeon),
I do feel as if too many NSW players are getting picked but if they are decent players, let them go.
 
Okay, i am from qld, we are talking about selectors being bias, there stands to be no reason why this occurs, considering
Trevor Hohns qld
Allan Border nsw/qld and i am sure his allegiance to is to qld
David Boon tas
i am unsure who the fourth selector is, but my theory is that bracken is 23 and katich is currently the youngest player with an acb contract , which is a concern, i would not be surprised if we don't maybe see another suprise selection in the second half of the tournament, maybe a Ben Oliver, M.Higgs,or so forth
 

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